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Kallieah
World of EVEcraft

Posted - 2010.04.14 05:05:00 - [361]
 

Edited by: Kallieah on 14/04/2010 05:05:03
Agreed with OP. I'd rather see MORE activity and usage of deep space instead of less. It's out there and could be both fun and interesting for the community.

Also, deleting peoples' ships is very unfriendly to the player population regardless of advance notice. There has to be a better way to do this if deep space -must- be locked down at all.

Edit: Yaay top of page 13!

KptLt Henke
Posted - 2010.04.14 05:34:00 - [362]
 

signed

sellina
Krupp-Stahl
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2010.04.14 05:35:00 - [363]
 

0/signed

Laura Caprice
Posted - 2010.04.14 06:06:00 - [364]
 

Signed!

Kalem Nalesh
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.04.14 06:06:00 - [365]
 

Edited by: Kalem Nalesh on 14/04/2010 06:06:52
Signed

Nooodlzs
The Hull Miners Union
Random-Violence
Posted - 2010.04.14 06:06:00 - [366]
 



Signed, personally I feel that this is CCP's way of cutting down on the lag monster, less variables for the server to deal with but it is a terrible idea and will not cure lag, bad code is bad code.

CCP do your JOB.....WE are paying your wages.

Altara Caldire
Posted - 2010.04.14 06:10:00 - [367]
 

Signed.

Normandy Xavier
Tower of Ravens
Posted - 2010.04.14 06:13:00 - [368]
 

Signed.

Quesa
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.04.14 06:18:00 - [369]
 


Krennel Darius
Caldari
EON Solutions
The Laughing Men
Posted - 2010.04.14 06:19:00 - [370]
 

/supported.

CCP, you must have been smoking some good stuff when you thought of this one. Plz share.

Borun Tal
Minmatar
Space Pods Inc
Posted - 2010.04.14 06:27:00 - [371]
 

Amazed even more now how CCP doesn't give a crap what the PAYING customers have to say about changes to the game. Curious how CCP is more interested in making PAYING customers play the game THEIR way, rather than how the PAYING customers want to play it. Curious... Not unheard of, but every comparison that comes to mind has always resulted in first product and then company failure. I expect my interest to wane with the "rumored" changed to Dominion. Maybe a few years as a paying customer is enough. Time to move on?

And no, you can't haz my stuff.

Rook Sanderas
Posted - 2010.04.14 06:31:00 - [372]
 

x signed.

Jump MacClone
Gallente
Posted - 2010.04.14 06:41:00 - [373]
 

Signed. I'd like to hear more compelling reasons for this. See my blog at http://www.votemacclone.com/Jump_for_CSM!/Eventful_Horizons/Entries/2010/4/13_Poseidon_Nerfed.html (Full url so you know where you're going Cool ). If I get elected to CSM I will push for the vastness of space to be accessible to players. It's all right to nerf the Poseidon 'loggofski' exploit, but it's not allright to put a wall in space.

TOMACHINE
Beach Boys
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2010.04.14 06:54:00 - [374]
 

signed, fix the game first, don't remove our way around your failure

Eleanor Tsukikaze
Posted - 2010.04.14 07:41:00 - [375]
 

Agreed, I'm not familiar with large fleet battle lag workaround mechanics but if you have to bring new and old players on the same line, buff new players instead of gimping old ones.

Include a mechanic that's supposed to be used for creating good safe spots, add enough range to get at least off ship scan range and if that is too long for current combat probes, then add better probes. Destroying stuff in deep safes is just plain stupid.

E Wan
Posted - 2010.04.14 08:12:00 - [376]
 

Signed.

Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2010.04.14 08:23:00 - [377]
 

Implementation is a bit harsh with destroying ships in deep safes but whatever.

I guess I am one of the few hardcore players left...I would like all safe spots removed as space should never be safe in EVE. If you need a deep safe spot to do something then you are already pretty fail at playing EVE. Deep safes dumb down the game and make it easier, death to deep safes!

Mr Frank
Posted - 2010.04.14 08:28:00 - [378]
 

Signed!

Hertford
Deep Core Mining Inc.

Posted - 2010.04.14 08:48:00 - [379]
 

Tea's right on the money on this.

CCP, however, do have to be seen to be doing something about an unintended game mechanic that is public knowledge and fully explained in a PDF.

Naomi Knight
Amarr
Posted - 2010.04.14 08:49:00 - [380]
 

Originally by: Vaal Erit
Implementation is a bit harsh with destroying ships in deep safes but whatever.

I guess I am one of the few hardcore players left...I would like all safe spots removed as space should never be safe in EVE. If you need a deep safe spot to do something then you are already pretty fail at playing EVE. Deep safes dumb down the game and make it easier, death to deep safes!

This ,why else would ppl need these unscannable safe spot than to make eve too safe?
Oh btw you have plenty of time to move your crap out of those spots.

Graifazig
Cataclysm Enterprises
Ev0ke
Posted - 2010.04.14 08:51:00 - [381]
 

Totally signed.

0.0 large scale warfare will be a pain in the ass w/o deepspace cynos against massive system/grid lags.

Bernadictus
Caldari
S.A.S
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.04.14 08:52:00 - [382]
 

Deep safes are practically the only way to get into a system, and actually get a grid load. And do the 'massive battles with thousands of players' you so dearly like to advert.

Do. Not. Nerf. Deepsafes.

Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.04.14 08:56:00 - [383]
 

Originally by: CCP Lemur
We've altered our plan addressing various concerns that you all voiced here in a reasonable manner. There will be a follow-up blog later today or tomorrow.


You guys can stop with the emo rage tears now. Laughing

Josh Duhammel
Posted - 2010.04.14 09:24:00 - [384]
 

/signed

Keilateau Shakor
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.04.14 09:33:00 - [385]
 

/signed

Nagistar
Bad Kitty Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2010.04.14 09:45:00 - [386]
 

signed

The heavy-handed sledgehammer approach smacks of a knee-jerk reaction with little actual thought put in as to how this actually affects players. Do you actually care so little for veteran players who have spent years building up the assets that you may be wiping out with the click of a mouse? A one month warning of destruction of potentially hundreds of billions of ISK? Are you serious? At the very least run the script in read-only mode and drop all the players an email giving them a months notice. Don't expect everyone to have seen the Dev blog or in-game news. What if I left my titan logged off at a deep safe and went on holiday for a month?

Fix the broken fleet warfare before you go breaking a method we have to actually get around your fail and have some fun. Continuing down this path of slapping your veteran players will only hurt your revenues in the long run. We are the people who supported you for many years and bring many more players into the game. I for one wonder how much more of this I'll put up with before I just cancel my accounts and stop promoting the game to others.

Mistress Amarina
Posted - 2010.04.14 09:49:00 - [387]
 


Shoim
Posted - 2010.04.14 09:52:00 - [388]
 

Signed.

CCP : you are putting limits to a universe without limits.

The deep safes were created by ingenious players who understood the game mechanics better than the devs. Instead of deleting them CCP could have embrace the idea of deep safes and make a legit way of creating them and scanning them. Balance this two - creating and scanning - and you get a new feature instead of all this flame from all of us.


Graifazig
Cataclysm Enterprises
Ev0ke
Posted - 2010.04.14 09:55:00 - [389]
 

Forgot to check the checkbox.

/signed

Khanid Wrynn
Posted - 2010.04.14 10:03:00 - [390]
 

Signed CCP should start listening to players.
Bare this in mind aswell no players no game.


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