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Grayclay
Caldari
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.04.11 21:01:00 - [1]
 

Given the advanced (relative to these forums) state of forum board software these days, why is it we are using this archaic board? The EvE-Forums downright suck in terms of functionality and user-friendliness. Are they just 5 years behind the rest of the world in Iceland? Or what? What keeps CCP from upgrading the basic software infrastructure? Its bad enough that we have to have a separate, user-created site just to have a search function..

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.04.11 21:05:00 - [2]
 

EVE Gate to the rescue.

Lord Haur
Amarr
Grim Determination
Posted - 2010.04.11 21:20:00 - [3]
 

I support this upgrade to the EVE-O forums

ceaon
Posted - 2010.04.11 21:35:00 - [4]
 

lithium is a much better option i guess CCp dont have the money to buy it

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.04.11 21:45:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Grayclay
Given the advanced (relative to these forums) state of forum board software these days, why is it we are using this archaic board? The EvE-Forums downright suck in terms of functionality and user-friendliness. Are they just 5 years behind the rest of the world in Iceland? Or what? What keeps CCP from upgrading the basic software infrastructure? Its bad enough that we have to have a separate, user-created site just to have a search function..


T H I S!

douches tried to pour vinegar on me when I said that. I'm still salty.

Styrmir
Gallente
Cut Throats And Wise Guys
Posted - 2010.04.11 21:47:00 - [6]
 

Of course would be nice to get an upgrade but we have to keep in mind how advanced in years this great game has become.

These forums have within them all entries and information for 7 or 8 years and that is a wealth of information we don't want to lose.


Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2010.04.11 21:53:00 - [7]
 

because the fourm is hooked into the game as well.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.04.11 21:55:00 - [8]
 

…again: EVE Gate to the rescue. You're asking for something that's already coming.

Grayclay
Caldari
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.04.11 22:53:00 - [9]
 

There is this handy command in all windows operating systems called "Copy + Paste". A simple keystroke will duplicate information and data and place it in a new location.

As for EvE Gate, well, some things just can't come fast enough :)

Kirra Liu
Serenity Rising.
Posted - 2010.04.11 22:59:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Grayclay


As for EvE Gate, well, some things just can't come fast enough :)


Not if you want it to work properly.

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2010.04.11 23:12:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Tippia
…again: EVE Gate to the rescue. You're asking for something that's already coming.

The 'Forum' link on EVE Gate leads to this forum. Given CCP's past performance on these types of issues we may not see the promised new forum for 5 to 10 years after EVE Gate goes live.

Lance Fighter
Amarr
Posted - 2010.04.12 00:34:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Lord Haur
I support this upgrade to the EVE-O forums

o.0 i cant support threads in GD

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2010.04.12 22:18:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Tippia
EVE Gate to the rescue.


Unfortunately EVE Gate is not bringing us new/updated forums. They are coming though and I bring beer and candies to those in charge to get it done faster Laughing.

Bibbleibble
Posted - 2010.04.12 22:20:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Originally by: Tippia
EVE Gate to the rescue.


Unfortunately EVE Gate is not bringing us new/updated forums. They are coming though and I bring beer and candies to those in charge to get it done faster Laughing.


THAT IS NOT WHAT WE WANTED TO HEAR!!!!

Seriously, when will you fix these forums? I know many forums with sub 200 users that are handled better than this peice of crap you call forums.

/rant off
Evil or Very Mad

Terianna Eri
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2010.04.12 22:23:00 - [15]
 

Seriously they worked pretty well I thought but having to enter your username and password every time you want to log in is really annoying, especially since you guys can't let me just stay logged in. Mad

neeeeeerd raaaaaaage

Tobias Xiaosen
Total Xenophobia
Posted - 2010.04.12 22:24:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Originally by: Tippia
EVE Gate to the rescue.


Unfortunately EVE Gate is not bringing us new/updated forums. They are coming though and I bring beer and candies to those in charge to get it done faster Laughing.


ShockedEvil or Very MadMadCrying or Very sad

...


FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari
Rancer Defence League
Posted - 2010.04.12 22:29:00 - [17]
 

Are ccp adverse to FOSS? I think they are lol, as many decent forums softwares out there are sufficient, and would be easily modded to hook into the various fields they need to access.

I think CCP likes to do everything themselves. Be it good, bad, or take over seven years, they just want to do it all themselves regardless of the perceived impacts positive or negative. I'm not aware of them using anything GNU/CC, but I haven't looked that hard either. They are likely afraid that once they open the door to foss and open licencing, that it would open the floodgates and they would lose value in their product. Rolling Eyes lol


x


Doc Fury
Caldari
Posted - 2010.04.12 22:38:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
I'm not aware of them using anything GNU/CC, but I haven't looked that hard either. They are likely afraid that once they open the door to foss and open licencing, that it would open the floodgates and they would lose value in their product. Rolling Eyes lol


The game client is written mostly in Python as are many, many server-side items.

Believe it! Python.






Barakkus
Posted - 2010.04.12 22:40:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Originally by: Tippia
EVE Gate to the rescue.


Unfortunately EVE Gate is not bringing us new/updated forums. They are coming though and I bring beer and candies to those in charge to get it done faster Laughing.


But, didn't you feed the walking in stations devs too?
Take that food and beer back right now!

Bibbleibble
Posted - 2010.04.12 22:45:00 - [20]
 


Magesto
Caldari
Disciples of Mayhem
Posted - 2010.04.12 23:26:00 - [21]
 

speaking of evegate, when is it due to release? same time as tyrannis right?

Grayclay
Caldari
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.04.12 23:38:00 - [22]
 

Problems:
1) Overall look of the forums. Its clunky and reminiscent of when computers first got graphics cards. This is probably because they are from what, early 2000?
2) Account log out timer. Its way too fast. An hour is understandable, but 10 minutes? Or whatever short amount of time it is now? I shouldn't have to log in several times just because I was inactive while reading a thread.
3) Post functionality is extremely limited. Sign up for any other forum and you have a plethora of new functions and coding options for your posts to seriously personalize them. This neo-utilitarian style is very businesslike, but very unfriendly.
4) Post timer. 5 minutes? Really? What conversation, aside from talking to someone on Mars, has to have 5 minutes in between responses? This, timed with the account timeout, can cause unnecessary frustration.
5) No search function. Need I say more?

Feel free to add more.

p.s. The argument here isn't style over substance. The forum has plenty of substance. Now it needs some style to match.

Zions Child
Caldari
The Resident Haunting
Posted - 2010.04.12 23:53:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Grayclay
Problems:
1) Overall look of the forums. Its clunky and reminiscent of when computers first got graphics cards. This is probably because they are from what, early 2000?
2) Account log out timer. Its way too fast. An hour is understandable, but 10 minutes? Or whatever short amount of time it is now? I shouldn't have to log in several times just because I was inactive while reading a thread.
3) Post functionality is extremely limited. Sign up for any other forum and you have a plethora of new functions and coding options for your posts to seriously personalize them. This neo-utilitarian style is very businesslike, but very unfriendly.
4) Post timer. 5 minutes? Really? What conversation, aside from talking to someone on Mars, has to have 5 minutes in between responses? This, timed with the account timeout, can cause unnecessary frustration.
5) No search function. Need I say more?

Feel free to add more.

p.s. The argument here isn't style over substance. The forum has plenty of substance. Now it needs some style to match.


1) Yes
2) God I hate it...
3) There is a lot of post coding, you just have to do it yourself, although you shouldn't have to memorize the bracket codes...
4) They did that after they banhammer's all the Macrominers, who spammed the forums all to hell. You can get around it by logging out and back in... But, it should be shortened to at most 30 seconds...
5) There is a search function... Upper right corner. It's just laughably terrible, and sucks so much balls it's scary.

Anyways... WE NEED NEW FORUMS!!! Or at least something easier to deal with... I do, however like the gunmetal gray look...

Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari
Rancer Defence League
Posted - 2010.04.12 23:56:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Doc Fury
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
I'm not aware of them using anything GNU/CC, but I haven't looked that hard either. They are likely afraid that once they open the door to foss and open licencing, that it would open the floodgates and they would lose value in their product. Rolling Eyes lol


The game client is written mostly in Python as are many, many server-side items.

Believe it! Python.








erm, sql. lol.

x

Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
Posted - 2010.04.12 23:57:00 - [25]
 

Aside from the timers and the ability to hide signatures I like the forums the way they are.

Grayclay
Caldari
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.04.13 00:03:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Zions Child

4) They did that after they banhammer's all the Macrominers, who spammed the forums all to hell. You can get around it by logging out and back in... But, it should be shortened to at most 30 seconds...
5) There is a search function... Upper right corner. It's just laughably terrible, and sucks so much balls it's scary.

Anyways... WE NEED NEW FORUMS!!! Or at least something easier to deal with... I do, however like the gunmetal gray look...


4: Then make it 15 or 30 seconds. 5 minutes is practically an eternity these days.
5: Right, yeah, its so insignificant I forgot it existed =P

6: Personal color schemes, anyone?

Skavirr
Posted - 2010.04.13 00:06:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Originally by: Tippia
EVE Gate to the rescue.


Unfortunately EVE Gate is not bringing us new/updated forums. They are coming though and I bring beer and candies to those in charge to get it done faster Laughing.


I'll live with the current forums if you bring me beer and candies instead.

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
Posted - 2010.04.13 01:12:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Grayclay
Given the advanced (relative to these forums) state of forum board software these days, why is it we are using this archaic board? The EvE-Forums downright suck in terms of functionality and user-friendliness. Are they just 5 years behind the rest of the world in Iceland? Or what? What keeps CCP from upgrading the basic software infrastructure? Its bad enough that we have to have a separate, user-created site just to have a search function..


I'm sure CCP could upgrade the forum all they like.

But they can't upgrade the quality of the threads started and the posting in general, so why bother?

The only thing this forum really needs is a block function.

Mr Epeen Cool

ghosttr
Amarr
ARK-CORP
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.04.13 03:45:00 - [29]
 

I wouldnt mind a new forums, but all the new web stuff CCP has been doing involves a lot of flash and images, how am i supposed to post a rant from my mobile if i cant load the pageShocked

I would be happy if they just upgraded these forums, and there are alot of relatively simple things they could do to make the forums more user-friendly

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2010.04.15 17:33:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Originally by: Tippia
EVE Gate to the rescue.


Unfortunately EVE Gate is not bringing us new/updated forums. They are coming though and I bring beer and candies to those in charge to get it done faster Laughing.

Sux to be right on this.

Just had to log in twice to post this.


 

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