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Zandorh
Posted - 2010.03.30 17:59:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Zandorh on 30/03/2010 18:00:00
I am just looking for input what a new player can do to have "fun" but a player that has limited time to play. I am a new player, so I am not skilled as a character or as a player to rush into PVP. I am curious how I can sustain an appropriate ISK amount, and enjoy the game too. I usually play a few hours a day. A few hours being defined as up to 2. This is a great game, and I hope there is room for the casual player. Please give input as to what you do or did as a new player to get a grasp and enjoy the game. Thanks in advance

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.03.30 18:01:00 - [2]
 

Well what do you want to do? Give us something to work with here.

Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company
Posted - 2010.03.30 18:15:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Swiftgaze on 30/03/2010 18:15:04
You can be my personal slave.

That's fun and challenging at the same time.

Kallieah
World of EVEcraft
Posted - 2010.03.30 19:29:00 - [4]
 

Swift,

What are you doing out of bed now? GO TO SLEEP!!!!

Seroiusly though, if you have specific interests in EVE already you may find it is possible to enjoy them without living in the game. Failing that, spinning a rookie ship in a station and never bothering to undock can be just as amusing as something like the mining profession.

FunzzeR
Legion of the Scottish Fold
Posted - 2010.03.30 19:35:00 - [5]
 

Best honest advice I can give is not to mine. Most low paying, boring profession EVER. Sort of mirrors many real world careers actually.

The AEther
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2010.03.30 19:49:00 - [6]
 

You can do practically anything that a more hardcore EVE player can do. Missions usually take under 30 minutes to complete and you have up to a week to turn each in. Activities such as mining, trading, and pvp you can start and stop at your own leisure and all of these can be accomplished in under 2 hours. Exploration is a bit more time consuming activity as first you have to find a site and then run it as next day it may despawn, but it also can be accomplished in under 2 hours. Activities to keep away from: starting a player corporation and recruiting players into it, becoming a CEO or director, assuming too many responsibilities within a player corporation. Running a POS is also iffy if you are a more casual player - because POSes consume fuel they require you to come online to refuel them otherwise tower will go offline and you can lose it. This does not take a lot of time but it will require you coming online once in a while, and if you just randomly decide not to play for a few weeks then you can lose your tower.

Fergus McRae
Gallente
New Eden Regimental Navy
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
Posted - 2010.03.30 20:01:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Fergus McRae on 30/03/2010 20:07:02
Originally by: Zandorh
Edited by: Zandorh on 30/03/2010 18:00:00
I am just looking for input what a new player can do to have "fun" but a player that has limited time to play. I am a new player, so I am not skilled as a character or as a player to rush into PVP. I am curious how I can sustain an appropriate ISK amount, and enjoy the game too. I usually play a few hours a day. A few hours being defined as up to 2. This is a great game, and I hope there is room for the casual player. Please give input as to what you do or did as a new player to get a grasp and enjoy the game. Thanks in advance


Alright, so, the truth is that this is a trickier question than you might think, but the answer is fairly simple.

As a new, casual player, I'd advise that you get into a decent corp that can help you out with support and help when you need it. That's step number one. The reality is that, as a new player, your greatest resource is older players who've been around a while and can answer your questions about ships, gear, skills, career paths and so forth. The really, really important thing to take away from this is to make sure that you get involved with the corp. When they run ops, go take part, listen to what they talk about, see it for yourself. Go on combat and mission ops, get a feel for what the combat is like when you're not up against NPCs.

Then, find something you like to do. One of the easiest things to do is get your happy little butt to a station somewhere near your corp's base of operations that has agents that give you missions that coincide with the loyalty that your corp is trying to build up. For instance, my corp is big on Amarr Navy loyalty, so we do missions for them. Just run missions solo, you can do most if not all level 1 missions with a cruiser and/or a well-fitted frigate.

Likewise, you can try mining a little bit. It's hard at first until you get your first retriever, but it's worth a try because at the very minimum you can figure out if you've got the temperament to spend hours and hours mining. Temperament aside, it sounds like you don't really have a whole load of time, so I'd probably advocate the missions, but mining is worth a try.

Now, here's the really good news... Once you've got yourself up around 10,000,000 skill points you'll notice that training new skills starts to slow down. Many of the skills that I'm training take weeks to finalize in order to be able to use the gear that I'm training them for, so that leaves you with a lot of downtime. You'll find yourself taking the odd break of a few days to even a few weeks while you wait for skills to train up so you can do the next thing because you're bored of the current thing. It happens to all of us. The upside of that is that in the meantime you can try other thigns to a small extent.

Above all else... train your learning skills first. FIRST! Train the learning skills first!!

Oh, for the love of God, train the learning skills.

Barakkus
Posted - 2010.03.30 20:08:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Fergus McRae
Originally by: Zandorh
Edited by: Zandorh on 30/03/2010 18:00:00
I am just looking for input what a new player can do to have "fun" but a player that has limited time to play. I am a new player, so I am not skilled as a character or as a player to rush into PVP. I am curious how I can sustain an appropriate ISK amount, and enjoy the game too. I usually play a few hours a day. A few hours being defined as up to 2. This is a great game, and I hope there is room for the casual player. Please give input as to what you do or did as a new player to get a grasp and enjoy the game. Thanks in advance


Alright, so, the truth is that this is a trickier question than you might think, but the answer is fairly simple.

As a new, casual player, I'd advise that you get into a decent corp that can help you out with support and help when you need it. That's step number one. The reality is that, as a new player, your greatest resource is older players who've been around a while and can answer your questions about ships, gear, skills, career paths and so forth. The really, really important thing to take away from this is to make sure that you get involved with the corp. When they run ops, go take part, listen to what they talk about, see it for yourself. Go on combat and mission ops, get a feel for what the combat is like when you're not up against NPCs.

Then, find something you like to do. One of the easiest things to do is get your happy little butt to a station somewhere near your corp's base of operations that has agents that give you missions that coincide with the loyalty that your corp is trying to build up. For instance, my corp is big on Amarr Navy loyalty, so we do missions for them. Just run missions solo, you can do most if not all level 1 missions with a cruiser and/or a well-fitted frigate.

Likewise, you can try mining a little bit. It's hard at first until you get your first retriever, but it's worth a try because at the very minimum you can figure out if you've got the temperament to spend hours and hours mining. Temperament aside, it sounds like you don't really have a whole load of time, so I'd probably advocate the missions, but mining is worth a try.

Now, here's the really good news... Once you've got yourself up around 1,500,000 skill points you'll notice that training new skills starts to slow down. Many of the skills that I'm training take weeks to finalize in order to be able to use the gear that I'm training them for, so that leaves you with a lot of downtime. You'll find yourself taking the odd break of a few days to even a few weeks while you wait for skills to train up so you can do the next thing because you're bored of the current thing. It happens to all of us. The upside of that is that in the meantime you can try other thigns to a small extent.

Above all else... train your learning skills first. FIRST! Train the learning skills first!!

Oh, for the love of God, train the learning skills.


Just don't join a corp that doesn't pvp, you'll find out about sitting in station and ship spinning really quickly if you do. I'm pretty much solo since I have aspirations that would require access to things people don't give out freely most of the time, and the fact that every corp I've been in (on this toon and previous toons) ends up wardec'd and everyone runs and hides instead of fighting it out.

Shawna Gray
Gallente
Posted - 2010.03.30 20:20:00 - [9]
 

Mmo's tend to be bad choices for casual players, but EVE is actually very casual friendly. You dont need to worry about grinding much for levels, gear or isk. Your skills train offline, and you can actually make quite a bit of isk offline or at least with low player input. Just dont expect to get into the biggest alliances in 0.0.


Originally by: Fergus McRae

Above all else... train your learning skills first. FIRST! Train the learning skills first!!

Oh, for the love of God, train the learning skills.


Dont do that. Train them early but not at first unless you want to get bored with the game real quick. Learning skills are quite high on my list of stupid game design decisions. Train them inbetween other skills to get the feeling that your character is moving forward.

Dex Timor
Valklear Guard
Posted - 2010.03.30 20:29:00 - [10]
 

Get to know the people in your local system, your rookie corp or join a player run corp. One of the things that always kept me coming back and enjoying eve are the people I chat with.

I'm still in a chatroom with people I met in my early days (4 years ago). We're spread out all over the known and unknown (for the guys living in a wormhole) universe. But these players are important to me. We mined together, we shared our first low-sec experience together, we were in the same corp at a time ...

How casual you want to play is entirely up to you. Some activities may impose a time constraint though or take up more time than you'd like spending on that activity. It is all up to you to find what you like to do and how to do it.

Imo mining and long-distance hauling is a waste of time, unless you can something else at the same time without leaving your ship unattended. Hauling on auto-pilot is asking for trouble.

PvE activities can be fun (solo or group) and are very casual.

PvP can be casual. You could team up with people you know and try to kill "red flashies" in low-sec. You could join red versus blue to fight players in a slightly controled environment. You could join faction warfare to benefit from a good intel channel for low-sec combined with targets from all timezones.

If you're more into crafting, you can do useful stuff in a matter of minutes: price-check, market order adjustment ...

What you shouldn't do is try to run an alliance if you're short on time Laughing

Lexx Khadar
Minmatar
HellForge.
Lucky Starbase Syndicate
Posted - 2010.03.30 20:32:00 - [11]
 

Set personal eve goals. Work towards and achieve said goals. profit.

Druadan
Syrus Speculations
Posted - 2010.03.30 20:35:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Druadan on 30/03/2010 20:36:32
Look into professions that can make you money while you're offline. Industry is good, because your stuff will build while you're offline. When you're online, you can get the stuff to market, put stuff in to build, and then knock out a few missions.

And find a casual corp. Even if you have to relocate to, say, Molden Heath to join, say, Yarrrdies Inc. ;)

Oh, and I can't stress enough the validity of what Shawna Gray said (quoted below).

Originally by: Shawna Gray
Originally by: Fergus McRae

Above all else... train your learning skills first. FIRST! Train the learning skills first!!

Oh, for the love of God, train the learning skills.


Dont do that. Train them early but not at first unless you want to get bored with the game real quick. Learning skills are quite high on my list of stupid game design decisions. Train them inbetween other skills to get the feeling that your character is moving forward.

Mr Kidd
Posted - 2010.03.31 13:00:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: The AEther
You can do practically anything that a more hardcore EVE player can do. Missions usually take under 30 minutes to complete and you have up to a week to turn each in. Activities such as mining, trading, and pvp you can start and stop at your own leisure and all of these can be accomplished in under 2 hours. Exploration is a bit more time consuming activity as first you have to find a site and then run it as next day it may despawn, but it also can be accomplished in under 2 hours. Activities to keep away from: starting a player corporation and recruiting players into it, becoming a CEO or director, assuming too many responsibilities within a player corporation. Running a POS is also iffy if you are a more casual player - because POSes consume fuel they require you to come online to refuel them otherwise tower will go offline and you can lose it. This does not take a lot of time but it will require you coming online once in a while, and if you just randomly decide not to play for a few weeks then you can lose your tower.



See my bold. This is obviously a player who has played the game so long as he has lost his perspective for the "casual" player.

No, l4 missions do not take under 30 minutes for the average skilled casual player. For the player that spent a year of focused skill training, knowing exactly what he wanted from day one, then yes, < 30 minute missions are possible.

For the average, casual player, L4 missions will go something like this. 1st mission: 20 minutes, 2nd 35 minutes, 3rd mission 5 minute courier, 4th mission 1.5 hours, 5th mission 3 hours, 6th mission several days. Perhaps not in that order.

I've got almost a year of unfocused training, consider myself a casual player and that's how L4's go for me.

But, what can the casual player do? If the casual player wants to pvp then he/she needs to find a corp that will outfit him/her with ships. If you have to pay for your own and you want to be more than frontline fodder flying easily replaceable frigates, well, then you'll have to grind a week for every 5 hours of PVP depending on your skill level.

Otherwise, for the casual player there really isn't anything in Eve except the grind. You can casually mine, casually mission, casually run plexes, semi-casually kill sleepers in wh space. But, you can't casually live in 0.0 and casually pvp there without corporate help. Anyone that says they casually live in 0.0, check what they're meaning of "casual" is. Every person I've met in Eve that lives in 0.0, that lives to pvp, are not casual players even though they may say they are. Playing +10 hours a week of Eve is beyond casual playing.

If you want to remove time factors from "casual playing", this isn't a game you can just jump into and beat up on people without having spent several times more the hours grinding to afford to do it.

Melor Rend
Posted - 2010.03.31 13:45:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Melor Rend on 31/03/2010 13:45:22
Originally by: Mr Kidd
Otherwise, for the casual player there really isn't anything in Eve except the grind. You can casually mine, casually mission, casually run plexes, semi-casually kill sleepers in wh space. But, you can't casually live in 0.0 and casually pvp there without corporate help. Anyone that says they casually live in 0.0, check what they're meaning of "casual" is. Every person I've met in Eve that lives in 0.0, that lives to pvp, are not casual players even though they may say they are. Playing +10 hours a week of Eve is beyond casual playing.


I live in 0.0 and I play EVE very casually at the moment. Of course I didn't play casually all the time in the last few years (there are phases where I play pretty hardcore) but once you've got yourself set up in 0.0 it really isn't a big deal to only login for some PVP action or casual solo activities. It's all a question of the corp you're in.

Edit: sometimes there are entire weeks where I don't log in to EVE at all. That's how casual I am. Wink

The AEther
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2010.03.31 14:22:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Mr Kidd
See my bold. This is obviously a player who has played the game so long as he has lost his perspective for the "casual" player.

No, l4 missions do not take under 30 minutes for the average skilled casual player. For the player that spent a year of focused skill training, knowing exactly what he wanted from day one, then yes, < 30 minute missions are possible.

For the average, casual player, L4 missions will go something like this. 1st mission: 20 minutes, 2nd 35 minutes, 3rd mission 5 minute courier, 4th mission 1.5 hours, 5th mission 3 hours, 6th mission several days. Perhaps not in that order.

As the OP has stated he is a new player, quite obviously he is not going to be running level 4's. The 30 minute estimate is for level 1/2 missions that he will be running. When I was a new player that was approximate the time they took to run through. But even with level 4's most you can complete in under 2 hours play session.

Originally by: Mr Kidd
But, you can't casually live in 0.0 and casually pvp there without corporate help.

Anchor a bubble in a pipe system. Sit at the catch-point in a frigate or destroyer. Kill things warping into you. You can handle covops and stealth bombers as soon as you're able to fit guns to your ship. Alternatively just roam around in a light ship, ask pilots you meet for 1v1 fights and some will oblige you. Either activity can be accomplished successfully in under 2 hours and does not require you to be in a corporation.

In 0.0 alliances there is at all times a certain portion of players who are AFG. It is not that they are playing casually - they are not playing at all. Be it a busy week at work, or they are sick, or traveling, or exams - they just can't log on for weeks. Yet they manage to play there, carebear and join fleets whenever they can. As long as you don't treat the game as a rat race and always compare your progress to that of more hardcore players, you can live in 0.0 and play under 10 hours a week.

For casual player interested in pvp I would also highly recommend trying out Red vs Blue - can get into gang there within minutes of logging on, getting ships and equipment is simple, and there are many people interested in 1v1s as well.

Originally by: Mr Kidd
Anyone that says they casually live in 0.0, check what they're meaning of "casual" is. Every person I've met in Eve that lives in 0.0, that lives to pvp, are not casual players even though they may say they are. Playing +10 hours a week of Eve is beyond casual playing.

If you play 10 hours a week instead of 20 this simply means that you will take twice as long to accomplish same things in pvp. This does not make those things impossible to do. Finding a fight in 0.0 can be done in less than 2 hours. Killing something takes minutes. Logistics is by far the most time consuming part but who said you need to go live somewhere deep? Live close to empire in NPC 0.0 region, flight with light cheap ships, make use of local markets, pvp whenever you get a chance.

Mr Kidd
Posted - 2010.03.31 20:55:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Mr Kidd on 31/03/2010 20:57:25
Originally by: The AEther
If you play 10 hours a week instead of 20 this simply means that you will take twice as long to accomplish same things in pvp. This does not make those things impossible to do. Finding a fight in 0.0 can be done in less than 2 hours. Killing something takes minutes. Logistics is by far the most time consuming part but who said you need to go live somewhere deep? Live close to empire in NPC 0.0 region, flight with light cheap ships, make use of local markets, pvp whenever you get a chance.



The point is, if you're a casual player, you'll spend most of it grinding. Flying around in 0.0 in a frigate only means one thing: a quick,cheap death assuming you don't have implants. You might, if you're lucky, find another frigate to spar with. Most probably it'll be followed by a blob.

Again, it comes down to what is considered casual. To me, casual play is getting on, having a blast and getting off, 1 - 2 hours. In 0.0 pvp you'll spend that amount of time just traversing 0.0 and/or finding a sparring partner, if you're lucky. For the casual new player, 0.0 pvp is really off limits until they spend the hardcore time finding a corp, doing the corp ops, etc, etc, etc. Whats left is the grind. Pure and simple.

You guys say you can do it. I don't believe you. I think you're leaving out some details at best. I've tried to do it but have yet found the means to live in 0.0 without going hardcore. Is it possible to find a corp that is going to fund your pvp and not require you spend time defending their space? Or their alliance's space? I don't think so. What I believe is you guys are their for your corps when they need you (hardcore time) and when they don't need you you're on 1 or 2 hours a day with a roving gang of corpies you sc****d together on corp local. The people I've met in 0.0 are expected at times to spend many hours online to defend corp or alliance space.

If you truly can live in 0.0 without being hardcore at all, more power to you. Perhaps you should make a guide to living in 0.0 casually and get it all on paper. Until then, you'll have to excuse me while I put on my chest waders.

The closest thing I've found to get on, get off fun in eve is ninja salvaging. Chances are good you can entice a missioner to shoot you. Then you come back with something big enough to kill him. The upside is you're making isk while doing it. But, it's still a grind.

AdmiralJohn
Gallente
Origin of Sanshaa
Posted - 2010.03.31 21:29:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Kallieah
Swift,

What are you doing out of bed now? GO TO SLEEP!!!!

Seroiusly though, if you have specific interests in EVE already you may find it is possible to enjoy them without living in the game. Failing that, spinning a rookie ship in a station and never bothering to undock can be just as amusing as something like the mining profession.

So is the the official Elysium troll thread?

Er, join THUNK and I can find something for you to do. Promise.

Takseen
Posted - 2010.03.31 21:34:00 - [18]
 

You can do enjoy quite a bit of the pve game with limited play time. 2 hours is enough to get a bunch of short missions or one long one done. You'd also have time to explore a few systems for cosmic signatures and run those too. Or you could go into research, and spend your 2 hours running missions for standings, doing bonus research point missions and collecting and using datacores. I don't know much about trading and manufacturing but those sound like they'd fit into your schedule too. Really the only activity that struck me as casual unfriendly is wormhole exploration, since you need to a) find a good wormhole and b) scan down the sites and c) clear some sites inside of 2 hours. And mining, because its boring and slow and boring.

Since its on topic, I am kinda curious what his prospects for getting into different kinds of corps would be with his playtime and I don't know what most corps look for.

AdmiralJohn
Gallente
Origin of Sanshaa
Posted - 2010.03.31 21:37:00 - [19]
 

Alternatively, log off and never turn the game back on. It saves a lot of gnashing of teeth later in life, because if you don't make this game your second job you won't gain any enjoyment.

Genya Arikaido
Posted - 2010.03.31 21:45:00 - [20]
 

Casual? Try LotRO or maybe WoW... EVE is anything but.

Shawna Gray
Gallente
Posted - 2010.03.31 22:43:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Mr Kidd

The point is, if you're a casual player, you'll spend most of it grinding.


Why? What are you grinding for?

Quote:

Flying around in 0.0 in a frigate only means one thing: a quick,cheap death assuming you don't have implants. You might, if you're lucky, find another frigate to spar with. Most probably it'll be followed by a blob.


Why are you not in a corp? Nobody blobs for one frig.

Quote:

Again, it comes down to what is considered casual. To me, casual play is getting on, having a blast and getting off, 1 - 2 hours. In 0.0 pvp you'll spend that amount of time just traversing 0.0 and/or finding a sparring partner, if you're lucky.


Get in a 0.0 corp in npc space and travel 5-10 jumps with some corpies.

Quote:

If you truly can live in 0.0 without being hardcore at all, more power to you. Perhaps you should make a guide to living in 0.0 casually and get it all on paper.



The finished guide:
Step 1: Join a corp.
Step 2: profit??


Merivel Mar
Posted - 2010.03.31 22:54:00 - [22]
 

I wouldn't use the word "fun" in relation to EVE more like a second job. Only good advice I can give you is join Eve University Corp cause any other corp you join, they most likely mission by themselves and keep to themselves. ugh

Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
Posted - 2010.03.31 23:08:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Merivel Mar
I wouldn't use the word "fun" in relation to EVE more like a second job. Only good advice I can give you is join Eve University Corp cause any other corp you join, they most likely mission by themselves and keep to themselves. ugh

You need to find a better corp by the sounds of it.

Julius Rigel
Sub-warp Racing Venture
Posted - 2010.03.31 23:43:00 - [24]
 

Frigate racing is fun, not skill-intensive, and doesn't take a whole lot of time.

bff Jill
Posted - 2010.04.01 03:02:00 - [25]
 

read the back stories on the website
watch some youtube videos and the various other cinematic creations by players
read the forum

don't log into the game, that's generally held to be a bad idea.

Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari
draketrain
Posted - 2010.04.01 09:14:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Mr Kidd
stuff


It's quite easy to be casual player in 0.0. It's even easier to get isk than from L4's when you can warp to belt for bs rats whenever you want, or scan anomalies which are pretty much comparable to L4's, except you don't get lp.

Just join some huge alliance with ton of blues. Does not really matter much which one it's all same. Just pick a name you like most.




TheBlueMonkey
Gallente
Fags R Us
Posted - 2010.04.01 09:24:00 - [27]
 

Go through the tutorials, get all the free stuff they give out, see what you find fun, do that.

You can get into a pvp fit rifter that can be very annoying in about a day and then pad all the skills for it from then on out.

Eve's a sand box so "what can I do that's fun?" won't get you many sensible answers.

It's not as simple as wow where you just get "go run karazan" or what ever's supposed to be hard these days.

Nilanea
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.04.01 16:16:00 - [28]
 

Casual player? Like as others already stated, find a corp that plays the same time as you do.

But if you can't find a corp or your play time is erratic, you can always buy another account and dual box.

Benefits of dual boxing: You can have both character train in different skills so you can have a miner/hauler, missile boat/salvager & repper, Caldari missile boat/Gallante sniper ship, or what not. You can mine/mission faster since you are using two accounts instead of one. Also it's nice to be able to fly two completely different ships in a shorter time vs trying to train up the skills on one character.

It takes a bit to get use to dual boxing, but once you get the hang of it, it's easy to do.

Tulisin Dragonflame
Posted - 2010.04.01 16:35:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Tulisin Dragonflame on 01/04/2010 16:36:33
Originally by: TheBlueMonkey
Go through the tutorials, get all the free stuff they give out, see what you find fun, do that.

You can get into a pvp fit rifter that can be very annoying in about a day and then pad all the skills for it from then on out.

Eve's a sand box so "what can I do that's fun?" won't get you many sensible answers.

It's not as simple as wow where you just get "go run karazan" or what ever's supposed to be hard these days.


This.

The #1 path to fun in EVE is realizing that you have to make your own. Do stuff you enjoy. Just. Do. It. Don't go do stuff you hate in the hopes you will one day be uber at doing the stuff you enjoy. Want to PvP? Don't go run missions, go PvP. Want to trade NPC goods? Buy a crappy trading ship and do it, don't go mine to get a better trading ship if you hate mining. Want to go participate in nullsec politics? Train for tackling, go out there, and make yourself useful to someone until they let you onboard. And finally, although some people are going to hate me for it: If you want to PvE all day and really don't enjoy PvP, don't go PvP. PvP is not a wholly avoidable part of EVE, but you can choose to participate as little as possible, and if you really don't enjoy it you can still find tons of fun in EVE without it.

Benri Konpaku
Posted - 2010.04.01 16:44:00 - [30]
 

For people with limited time to play there's the awesome skill training queue.

Also worth mentioning are forum trolling and passive income activities which require close to no time, so you are never left behind even if you can't play much every day. Very Happy


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