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Lucifer's Ghost
Minmatar
Native Fishfood
Posted - 2010.04.01 03:11:00 - [61]
 

Edited by: Lucifer''s Ghost on 01/04/2010 03:15:41
Originally by: Zarthanon
Originally by: blade190
IT is your fault. YOU CAN NOT buy SUPER CAPS for 100 isk. You know that. You also said he was multi boxing. Use two monitors or run one. I had the chance to rep yourself also because U WERE IN A CARRIER. your pilot knew he was dieing. switch back warp out or log off and run one. He dd'd the oynx cause it was the only hic that was a threat. We had jam's. Also had the titan not been repped at the pos who know what you would have done. you had 3 mom and a rapier at that pos. You even locked us. You can not deny your pilot was multiuboxing. You can not deny he knew he was dieing. You can not deny he could have been repped by a carrier by taking point off for one second. You had 3 hics. one point off wont matter


1. There are no rules about "you must have two monitors", only, "NO PODDING"
2. He didn't know "he was dieing" because HE GOT DOOMSDAYED. It's instant, there's no chance, delay, noticeable issue until it actually happens.
3. Locking people and doing absolutely nothing to them is not grounds for any sort of QQ on your part.
4. You claim you had the other two HIC's jammed when he DDed the Onyx, yet you still go onto say that "on point off won't matter".

Thanks for making it easy.


1) Is it common practice for your pilots not to have one another's ships on a watch list?

A) If it is a common practice to have fleet members on a watch list (and it is), then he would have known instantly when his ship popped. Your statement failed on that point alone. he would have known when his ship died, and had plenty of time to move his pod away from the Titan to safety.

2) Is it common practice to leave pods up against a ships hull after the pilot has lost his ship?

A) Only on the test server, as that method is used to exploit the no podding rule to force kills, or server bans by people that spend their time looking for ways to exploit the test servers rules to their advantage so they can grief others.

With those two points, your entire house of cards and attempt to smoke screen fails.

Thanks for making it easy.

Zarthanon
Posted - 2010.04.01 03:15:00 - [62]
 

2) No Capital ships or fighter drones outside FFA2.

This guy just can't seem to follow any rules at all. First, podding 3 people in 5 minutes, now he's using Fighters outside of FFA2, delegating them in FFA7. Clearly he refuses to follow the rules.

[03:02:23] Lord Cernyar > GM there is a fleet has fighter Drones at FFA 7
[03:02:37] Mike C > those would be mine...
[03:02:47] CorryBasler > so fighters are fine in ffa 7, bacon says ntohing about it
[03:03:26] bwc dynomite > im farely certain they arent meant to be in the other ffas though
[03:04:18] Mike C > IMO shouldnt be there <i>but</i> since nothing says otherwise not gonna recall fighters

Zarthanon
Posted - 2010.04.01 03:36:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: Lucifer's Ghost

1) Is it common practice for your pilots not to have one another's ships on a watch list?

A) If it is a common practice to have fleet members on a watch list (and it is), then he would have known instantly when his ship popped. Your statement failed on that point alone. he would have known when his ship died, and had plenty of time to move his pod away from the Titan to safety.

2) Is it common practice to leave pods up against a ships hull after the pilot has lost his ship?

A) Only on the test server, as that method is used to exploit the no podding rule to force kills, or server bans by people that spend their time looking for ways to exploit the test servers rules to their advantage so they can grief others.

With those two points, your entire house of cards and attempt to smoke screen fails.

Thanks for making it easy.



Holy crap, you also get more and more pathetic. All of the above is common practice on TRANQUILITY, NOT the TEST SERVER. Be it this is NOT Tranquility, we have no reason to play super serious and are just on there screwing around. There are rules in place so that we shouldn't have to worry about certain things happening, like multiple podding. If we wanted to merely "get him banned by exploiting" his podding people, we would have ejected from all of our ships right next to him. But no, he podded two other people in addition to FrickItsJon, proving that either: 1. The ability to get away in time to not be podded was hampered by lag, etc, or 2. The two other people that were supposed to be helping him were also trying to "exploit" to get him banned.

Two smartbombs can kill a pod in one cycle. You are trying to say that even though 2 other people who were on his side, tried to get their pod out, but were unable to due to whatever issue, our pilot is somehow special in his inability to get out and that it was specifically to "exploit" and get him banned. Nice try, but failure after failure, you're still wrong. Unfortunately for you, you were not there, do not have any idea what really happened, still have no idea what you're talking about, and still insist on defending someone who podded 3 people in 5 minutes.

Lucifer's Ghost
Minmatar
Native Fishfood
Posted - 2010.04.01 03:42:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Zarthanon
Originally by: Lucifer's Ghost

1) Is it common practice for your pilots not to have one another's ships on a watch list?

A) If it is a common practice to have fleet members on a watch list (and it is), then he would have known instantly when his ship popped. Your statement failed on that point alone. he would have known when his ship died, and had plenty of time to move his pod away from the Titan to safety.

2) Is it common practice to leave pods up against a ships hull after the pilot has lost his ship?

A) Only on the test server, as that method is used to exploit the no podding rule to force kills, or server bans by people that spend their time looking for ways to exploit the test servers rules to their advantage so they can grief others.

With those two points, your entire house of cards and attempt to smoke screen fails.

Thanks for making it easy.



Holy crap, you also get more and more pathetic. All of the above is common practice on TRANQUILITY, NOT the TEST SERVER. Be it this is NOT Tranquility, we have no reason to play super serious and are just on there screwing around. There are rules in place so that we shouldn't have to worry about certain things happening, like multiple podding. If we wanted to merely "get him banned by exploiting" his podding people, we would have ejected from all of our ships right next to him. But no, he podded two other people in addition to FrickItsJon, proving that either: 1. The ability to get away in time to not be podded was hampered by lag, etc, or 2. The two other people that were supposed to be helping him were also trying to "exploit" to get him banned.

Two smartbombs can kill a pod in one cycle. You are trying to say that even though 2 other people who were on his side, tried to get their pod out, but were unable to due to whatever issue, our pilot is somehow special in his inability to get out and that it was specifically to "exploit" and get him banned. Nice try, but failure after failure, you're still wrong. Unfortunately for you, you were not there, do not have any idea what really happened, still have no idea what you're talking about, and still insist on defending someone who podded 3 people in 5 minutes.


It doesn't matter if I was there or not there. What matters is you are still unable to refute anything I have said. I already stated before that no, I wasn't there, didn't see it etc, but it sure looks from my end that what is happening is an attempt to use the servers rules to exploit.

I am still waiting for you to comment on why your pilot, knowing full well the Titan pilot was smart bombing, left his pod against the titans hull. It doesn't matter in the least if you don't do that on TQ, the fact that you'll do it on SISI shows an attempt to exploit the no podding rule to force a pilot to stop defending their ship from your attacks.

What does that make you? Yes.. exactly, an EXPLOITER.

When you can argue that little issue away, please do, until then, sorry, but you still look like a duck to me.

Zarthanon
Posted - 2010.04.01 03:58:00 - [65]
 

He wasn't just sitting nested right against the hull, he's flying at close range to maintain his scramble, capacitor, and potentially knock the titan out of alignment. All of which are very common when killing Supercapitals on TQ, something you've obviously never been a part of.

While multiaccounting trying to kill falcons with the carrier and not taking any significant damage there is no reason to maintain second-to-second monitoring of the Onyx character. As I said before, two other people got podded, clearly it wasn't just a single incident of one pilot not being able to warp out to avoid the smartbombs, it was multiple. This is not three dumb pilots, it's one dumb test server built titan pilot disregarding the rules multiple times, and not seeing any fault.

If the rule stated, "NO PODDING!!! (Except in cases where a test server built titan is being scrambled and is madly trying to get away and ends up podding a bunch of people)" then maybe you'd be right. But, it doesn't.

Lucifer's Ghost
Minmatar
Native Fishfood
Posted - 2010.04.01 04:15:00 - [66]
 

Edited by: Lucifer''s Ghost on 01/04/2010 04:21:41
Originally by: Zarthanon
He wasn't just sitting nested right against the hull, he's flying at close range to maintain his scramble, capacitor, and potentially knock the titan out of alignment. All of which are very common when killing Supercapitals on TQ, something you've obviously never been a part of.

While multiaccounting trying to kill falcons with the carrier and not taking any significant damage there is no reason to maintain second-to-second monitoring of the Onyx character. As I said before, two other people got podded, clearly it wasn't just a single incident of one pilot not being able to warp out to avoid the smartbombs, it was multiple. This is not three dumb pilots, it's one dumb test server built titan pilot disregarding the rules multiple times, and not seeing any fault.

If the rule stated, "NO PODDING!!! (Except in cases where a test server built titan is being scrambled and is madly trying to get away and ends up podding a bunch of people)" then maybe you'd be right. But, it doesn't.


Point one more time. Is it common for your pilots to pay no attention to their watch list? Or not to have one another on their watch list? Or not to care if their ship that is right up against a titan that is smart bombing gets blown up leaving them in their pod.

Pretty sure a DD is pretty obvious to anyone around. That's kinda a hard thing to miss. First order of business, check your watch list to see who got hit. "Oh, my dictor, oh well I'll leave him against the titan and force him to stop smart bombing. I don't need to switch out to that account to move him away."

You can try and obfuscate all you want, it doesn't change the fact that it LOOKS like you were trying to use the test server rules, to force a pilot to stop defending his ship. I.E. Exploiting.

I have never experienced 30+ seconds of lag on SiSi, even when over 500 people were on it at a time (i.e. just the other day). While I have never been involved in a Supercap fight, I have been involved in plenty of other fights.

Again, your points fail to explain away why a pilot would leave his pod in SB range for any other reason than to attempt to force a pilot to stop defending their ship. Which in my opinion is exploiting the test server rules.

I also find it exceedingly difficult to believe that three pilots were 'unable to warp away' from a smart bombing titan in their pods. I am sorry but that stretches credibility to the breaking point.

blade190
Posted - 2010.04.01 06:31:00 - [67]
 

Edited by: blade190 on 01/04/2010 06:31:12
the to maintain cap, point and to bumps is bs and you know it. MINIMUM heavy interdictors 1 has a point range of 25k he had plenty of range. If he wanted to maintain cap staying in neut range is real smart. specially with a out of neut range point. also you had nyx's and aeons trying to bump in at 0 of him. you did not need the hic's

Gneeznow
Minmatar
Ship spinners inc
Posted - 2010.04.01 06:55:00 - [68]
 

serious test server business !

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
The KWFL Republic
Posted - 2010.04.01 18:59:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Zarthanon
All of the above is common practice on TRANQUILITY, NOT the TEST SERVER. Be it this is NOT Tranquility, we have no reason to play super serious and are just on there screwing around.



Originally by: Zarthanon
... he's flying at close range to maintain his scramble, capacitor, and potentially knock the titan out of alignment. All of which are very common when killing Supercapitals on TQ...



So you use TQ tactics on SiSi yet you don't use TQ tactics on SiSi?

Yeh, you guys are reeeeeal convincing. Something seriously wrong with this game if there's a BH gullible enough to be sucked in by these fools.

You should stick to SiSi duels, ban threads clearly aren't your forte


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