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Nareg Maxence
Gallente
Posted - 2010.03.27 10:22:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Anonymous Player
Ugh, I get so freaking tired of having to pay these additional ****ing "International Transaction" fees! I mean, $2 isn't bad but it's an additional $14 a month for me, and got forbid I want to buy one of the over-priced GTC's. This game is a rip-off, and American players shouldn't be unfairly punished.


Pay yearly, then. With 7 accounts you'll save:

11 months x 7 accounts x $2 = $144

And then the discount for yearly subs

7 accounts x ((12 x $14.95) - ($131.40) = $48) = $336

Total saving: $480


THIS!!! It's not like with 7 accounts you will suddenly decide to quit the game.

Hrodgar Ortal
Minmatar
Ma'adim Logistics
Posted - 2010.03.27 13:16:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Anonymous Player
This game is a rip-off, and American players shouldn't be unfairly punished.


But EVERYONE else should be???

Seishi Maru
doMAL S.A.
Posted - 2010.03.27 14:55:00 - [33]
 

My bank charges me 3 cents for international operation.

So yeah.. find a better bank.

Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2010.03.27 15:33:00 - [34]
 

So you are blaming ccp for your bank charging you for using its services .... Thats nearly as bad as the people blaming ccp for their nations using dayliught savings.

Mahai Ano
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2010.03.27 15:51:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Mahai Ano on 27/03/2010 15:51:02
Other idea: get a frigging credit/debit card. Yeah, it costs some. Not much though. I only pay the current exchange rates with my visa, nothing more.

Sourpsalm
Gallente
Pubs 'n Clubs
Posted - 2010.03.27 15:59:00 - [36]
 

How about you move to Iceland you ignorant xenophobe.

Ghoest
Posted - 2010.03.27 16:01:00 - [37]
 

The OP has a point, but 6 month subscriptions does mostly fix the issue.

Benri Konpaku
Posted - 2010.03.27 16:04:00 - [38]
 

People are so mean nowadays.

Please forgive the OP for his stupidity, it isn't his fault, he is just from the USA. Very Happy

mygirl2
Caldari
SpecExport
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2010.03.27 16:16:00 - [39]
 

Im using one of those crappy local banks as described above... and only get charged $0.20 a month.

WishBlade
Caldari
Atomic Heroes
The G0dfathers
Posted - 2010.03.27 23:47:00 - [40]
 

So, wait. You're crying, cause you have to pay $15+$2=$17 (DUH! math) monthly per account while the Europeans pay approximately $20 per account BEFORE any transaction fees are applied?
I would love to pay even $17 for my EvE, cause that would amount to appr. 12.85, but no, I have to pay $20.
Thank heavens for sites like evetimecodes, and shatteredcrystal.

Beanard
Posted - 2010.03.28 00:24:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Anonymous Player
Edited by: Anonymous Player on 27/03/2010 01:45:57
Originally by: Xyfu
Off-topic.Applebabe

Originally by: on noserssssss
Originally by: Tsumei Meyren
Get a better bank/Credit card company


This. Bank Of America FTW!


I use Bank of America, and I am getting charged a $2 "International Fee" that started appearing on my statement in January.


When did you start playing, because BoA charged the 'International Fee' for the month I paid for last summer.

Blasphemour
Posted - 2010.03.29 09:48:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: WishBlade
So, wait. You're crying, cause you have to pay $15+$2=$17 (DUH! math) monthly per account while the Europeans pay approximately $20 per account BEFORE any transaction fees are applied?
I would love to pay even $17 for my EvE, cause that would amount to appr. 12.85, but no, I have to pay $20.
Thank heavens for sites like evetimecodes, and shatteredcrystal.


This.

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2010.03.29 10:33:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Anonymous Player
Ugh, I get so freaking tired of having to pay these additional ****ing "International Transaction" fees! I mean, $2 isn't bad but it's an additional $14 a month for me, and got forbid I want to buy one of the over-priced GTC's. This game is a rip-off, and American players shouldn't be unfairly punished.


Ofcource the US bank charges you for the transaction! Anything else would have been socialistic or worse: communism! Shocked


Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2010.03.29 10:41:00 - [44]
 

I agree, but then you also have to pay what all others have to pay, so no more cheap dollar subscriptions.

Drenan
State War Academy
Posted - 2010.03.29 11:42:00 - [45]
 


When oh when are people going to realise that we exist only to provide the agar that bankers require to thrive?




Suz1
Posted - 2010.03.29 11:54:00 - [46]
 

I bank with JPMorgan Chase.
I have no fees for international charges.
Not even when I use my debit card to buy a soda at the airport in SeoulRazz.

Aera Aiana
Amarr
Posted - 2010.03.29 12:01:00 - [47]
 

Aren't you guys already paying a lot less then we Europeans?

14.95 equals only 11.12 and even with your bank's transaction tax it's still 1.83 short of what we pay....

Yiffi
Posted - 2010.03.29 12:21:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Sourpsalm
How about you move to Iceland you ignorant xenophobe.



Lol, ******.

Azran Zala
Fleet of the Damned
Legion of The Damned.
Posted - 2010.03.29 12:32:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Azran Zala on 29/03/2010 12:36:33

Get a decent bank. Or use paypal.

Zenst
Hall Of Flame
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2010.03.29 12:49:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Anonymous Player
Ugh, I get so freaking tired of having to pay these additional ****ing "International Transaction" fees! I mean, $2 isn't bad but it's an additional $14 a month for me, and got forbid I want to buy one of the over-priced GTC's. This game is a rip-off, and American players shouldn't be unfairly punished.


if GTC's are overpriced then maybe its factoring in the tax there, either way nomatter what you buy using money you end up paying TAX at somestage or another, this is how it roll's alas.

Now given CCP are Icelandic and as such a registered Iclandic company then they are going to end up paying local TAX in some form as well. Somebody has to prop up the local banks. This is how it roll's alas.

But as CCP is also a international company and they also have local expenditure then the ability to spread income inline with expenditure would possibly allow for this solution:

Limited number of localy generated GTC's that are sold within the region of the local generation and as such afford CCP a way to balance the books. This would be something they could look into though dont see many CCP ACCOUNTANTS posting on these forums :). The upside of this would be a means of accomodating TAX's on the balance sheet in a more affordable way reducing overheads to not only CCP but a fair proportion of the player base. As I said it would be limited as CCP would not be wishing to generate more local income compared to there local outlay(aka running costs like local office, staff pay, coffee etc). This would enable CCP to be better placed to leverage local TAX's to there best advantage akin to how Microsoft runs there accounts from a single state in america due to state tax liabilities being at there lowest; CCP would be able to better leverage this model of accounting but upon a global basis.

But that's my best suggestion and I'm no accountant nor TAX certified expert.

What suggestions do others have that would benifit the player without penalising CCP, anybody?

Iaoth
Posted - 2010.03.29 13:19:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Anonymous Player
Well, three of the largest financial institutions are charging the same thing. Citi, Bank of America, and Wells Fargo/Wachovia. I don't use anything but those three, so I can't comment on other banks or financial institutions.


Not sure why you put that there.

I've been banking with BoA for over 15 years, been playing this game since '07 and haven't had the first hint of what you are describing.

$14.99 per account is what I pay, period. No "international fees", no "exchange fees', so, not quite sure what you are on about............

Camino Archer
Posted - 2010.03.29 15:46:00 - [52]
 

My bank just started refuseing to pay. I just use my paypal account instead. They told me the servers for the transaction are in Britain. When I tried to tell them that Britain is our friend, they just repeated that the servers are in Britain Shocked

Roux Michon
Posted - 2010.03.29 18:40:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Anonymous Player
Edited by: Anonymous Player on 27/03/2010 01:45:57
Originally by: Xyfu
Off-topic.Applebabe

Originally by: on noserssssss
Originally by: Tsumei Meyren
Get a better bank/Credit card company


This. Bank Of America FTW!


I use Bank of America, and I am getting charged a $2 "International Fee" that started appearing on my statement in January.


Bank of America is the biggest scam running in the banking world... they used to charge people for talking to a teller at the bank... EVEN when there was a problem THEY caused with an account.

They will use any possible way to squeeze a few extra pennies out of anyone, and everyone...

the bank I have now pays me, thats right, all those fees BoA charges... "non-network ATM fees" even the $2 the random ATM at the airport charges I get BACK every month.

I also get paid a % of my debit card purchases and interest on my checking account monthly.

If your bank is jacking with you and telling you to take it... Take it or GO ELSEWHERE.

The only reason banks are able to do this crap to you is because you think there is nowhere else to go.

Also, even the federal government and dept of defense have stopped using BoA... that should tell you something.

Find a new bank, and let your money do the talking... thats how America works.

MrBinary
Minmatar
Binary Systems
Posted - 2010.03.29 21:36:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Anonymous Player
Ugh, I amerkan and i demand to be treated specical! Let us control yer monies so we can spend mor on killing innocents und steal mor monies! now let me go wave a flag cuz we r mor specical than u!
Quote:


Troll.

Fixed.

Now go away.


Cor Aidan
Shore Leave
Posted - 2010.03.29 23:19:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: WishBlade
So, wait. You're crying, cause you have to pay $15+$2=$17 (DUH! math) monthly per account while the Europeans pay approximately $20 per account BEFORE any transaction fees are applied?
I would love to pay even $17 for my EvE, cause that would amount to appr. 12.85, but no, I have to pay $20.
Thank heavens for sites like evetimecodes, and shatteredcrystal.

You're doing your conversion rates wrong. You can't just look at the nominal rates, you have to look at what equal amounts of currency buy you in your local region.

Here in the US, a monthly subscription goes for $15.

This is 15 items on a dollar value menu. Assuming there is a 'euro value menu' at similar venues in the EU, your 15 is also 15 items on the menu!

So in actuality you're paying exactly the same price, at least in terms of value-menu items.

A comparison of nominal rates without other considerations is at best misleading.

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2010.03.29 23:22:00 - [56]
 

Edited by: Super Whopper on 29/03/2010 23:22:53
Originally by: Benri Konpaku
People are so mean nowadays.

Please forgive the OP for his stupidity, it isn't his fault, he is just from the USA. Very Happy


Originally by: MrBinary
Originally by: Anonymous Player
Ugh, I amerkan and i demand to be treated specical! Let us control yer monies so we can spend mor on killing innocents und steal mor monies! now let me go wave a flag cuz we r mor specical than u!


Troll.

Fixed.

Now go away.


Shocked Everything I wanted to say has already been said.

Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts
Posted - 2010.03.29 23:32:00 - [57]
 

Huh... Thats funny, I use Wells Fargo and I have NEVER been charged any $2 fees...

Silvensis
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2010.03.30 08:05:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Anonymous Player
Ugh, I get so freaking tired of having to pay these additional ****ing "International Transaction" fees! I mean, $2 isn't bad but it's an additional $14 a month for me, and got forbid I want to buy one of the over-priced GTC's. This game is a rip-off, and American players shouldn't be unfairly punished.

Hmmm. I wonder if the reason you're garnering relatively little sympathy in this case is that many non-American EVE players have had ample experience of the greater mass of MMOs? Most tend to treat America as their actual intended audience, and anyone who strays in from any of the world's lesser, benighted nations is considered a mere bonus, tolerated for the sake of their subscription (once their heathen value tokens are converted into God's Own Currency, of course).

(For the record, no: I have no problem with Americans at all. Actually, I quite like them. Some of them, anyway. But there are one or two who really seem to have trouble acknowledging that other nations can have any significance at all.)

Moni Toimikone
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.03.30 08:20:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Amaron Ghant
Contrary to your belief OP , the US isn't the Centre of the Universe with everything and everyone else revolving around it.


*SHOCK* Smile

Tallaran Kouros
Cryptonym Sleepers
Posted - 2010.03.30 11:14:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Anonymous Player
My bank is bending me over and shafting me and I enjoy it too much to go find another bank that won't shaft me as hard. Also, the US should be the centre of the world and you should move everything to the US because we are teh awesomes.


No.


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