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Karandar Maxiimis
Posted - 2010.03.25 18:41:00 - [1]
 

There are many long time players in Eve who don't enjoy the risks of Lowsec, but are looking for more variety and challenges with our Eve experience.

It is getting stale in Hisec. Name me a mission, I'll tell you what ships to expect, what damage type to deal and defend against etc. Not fun at this point with no mission variability.

Adding lvl 5 agents in HiSec would add a significant challenge for such players.

...and before you all start flaming, because of the lower risk, lower the rewards from running in Hisec vs lowsec.

Make the most rare loot drops in Lowsec, and lower the isk pay outs in Hisec.

Kar

Grarr Dexx
Amarr
Kumovi
The G0dfathers
Posted - 2010.03.25 18:51:00 - [2]
 

The only reason this game is stale for you is because you lack the balls to actually go out and have risky fun.

Level 5s in highsec won't change ****. Also, highsec doesn't need people making even more riskfree isk/h.

Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Shadow Confederation
Posted - 2010.03.25 18:55:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Karandar Maxiimis
There are many long time players in Eve who don't enjoy the risks of Lowsec, but are looking for more variety and challenges with our Eve experience.

It is getting stale in Hisec. Name me a mission, I'll tell you what ships to expect, what damage type to deal and defend against etc. Not fun at this point with no mission variability.

Adding lvl 5 agents in HiSec would add a significant challenge for such players.

...and before you all start flaming, because of the lower risk, lower the rewards from running in Hisec vs lowsec.

Make the most rare loot drops in Lowsec, and lower the isk pay outs in Hisec.

Kar


Pretty good when you pull facts out of your _______ to come up with pathetic excuses to push a stupid proposal out.

Grow a backbone... move out of high sec.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.03.25 19:09:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Grarr Dexx
The only reason this game is stale for you is because you lack the balls to actually go out and have risky fun.

Level 5s in highsec won't change ****. Also, highsec doesn't need people making even more riskfree isk/h.


This.

Also: Inb4 matrixskye

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.03.25 19:19:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Grarr Dexx
The only reason this game is stale for you is because you lack the balls to actually go out and have risky fun.

Level 5s in highsec won't change ****. Also, highsec doesn't need people making even more riskfree isk/h.


This.

Also: Inb4 matrixskye


This guy sounds legit. Also, I have recently discovered a need to post in memes.

Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.03.25 19:29:00 - [6]
 

Quote:
..are looking for more variety and challenges with our Eve experience
What is more variety and challenge if not increase in risk? low sec is the answer

How can something with more variety and challenge not be more risky? if it has no risk, it's not really challenging, is it?

Don't lie to yourself, if you don't want to brave low sec, you don't want more challenge, you don't want more variety. You want more repetitive predictable action.

I recommend seeking professional therapy to help you figure out what you really want and address your hidden fears.

Larkonis Trassler
Doctrine.
Posted - 2010.03.25 19:36:00 - [7]
 

Nice troll bro.

All the cool kids are already running level 5's in hisec anyway Cool

Slimy Worm
The Skunkworks
Posted - 2010.03.25 21:04:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Grarr Dexx
Level 5s in highsec won't change ****. Also, highsec doesn't need people making even more riskfree isk/h.


This is about the third thread you've trolled today, but here it goes...

The OP said, "
...and before you all start flaming, because of the lower risk, lower the rewards from running in Hisec vs lowsec.

Make the most rare loot drops in Lowsec, and lower the isk pay outs in Hisec."

Essentially, he wants to nerf highsec mission payouts (at least level 5) so that it's more profitable to do them in lowsec. It's quite different than him being some carebear who wants even more risk-free ISK faucets.

I don't support this because I don't think any well-paying missions should be in highsec (the relatively safe ISK faucets should be moved toward more interesting things like exploration, but that's for a different thread), but if CCP is going to keep high-paying highsec missions they might as well make them fun.

Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus
S I L E N T.
Posted - 2010.04.10 02:21:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Karandar Maxiimis
There are many long time players in Eve who don't enjoy the risks of Lowsec, but are looking for more variety and challenges with our Eve experience.

It is getting stale in Hisec. Name me a mission, I'll tell you what ships to expect, what damage type to deal and defend against etc. Not fun at this point with no mission variability.

Adding lvl 5 agents in HiSec would add a significant challenge for such players.

...and before you all start flaming, because of the lower risk, lower the rewards from running in Hisec vs lowsec.

Make the most rare loot drops in Lowsec, and lower the isk pay outs in Hisec.

Kar


You can already run L5s in highsec if the shuttle trip to the agent is too much for you you really don't deserve them.

Scerolikk Teromni
Atrocious Order
Posted - 2010.04.10 05:14:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Karandar Maxiimis
...and before you all start flaming, because of the lower risk, lower the rewards from running in Hisec vs lowsec.


So you're saying make high-sec level 5's like level 4's.

If running level 4 missions is too monotonous for you, why do you think level 5 missions will be ANY DIFFERENT? Go buy some cajone seeds and plant them in your vagina. Place in a well-lit area and water twice a day... in a few weeks you will find yourself having the balls to go to low-sec to run your "totally-not-repetitive-and-grindy" level 5 missions. You obviously already have the (in-game) pvp skills. Stop trying to make EVE easy.

Ce'Nedra Cinteotl
Posted - 2010.04.10 06:24:00 - [11]
 

Have CCP introduce sleeper AI to every 10th mission you run or a random number of missions. That'll shake up things for you.

Manalapan
Dynasty Banking
General Tso's Alliance
Posted - 2010.04.10 22:25:00 - [12]
 

I would support this only if it gets a ridiculous Sleeper AI in the mission where low sec would be easier.

Wiick3d
Posted - 2010.05.11 03:02:00 - [13]
 

I'm curious on how much ISK Reward is given and perhaps Ships if they are given as rewards are like in low sec for lvl 5 missions. I'm currently doing 3 million per mission lvl 4 missions and if missions in low sec pay out around 10 million, then i'm willing to risk myself for that kind of isk :D. But i don't have any pvp experience. ugh

Java Hun
Rockey Mountain Lumber Co.
Posted - 2010.05.11 04:39:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Karandar Maxiimis

It is getting stale in Hisec. Name me a mission, I'll tell you what ships to expect, what damage type to deal and defend against etc. Not fun at this point with no mission variability.





Mission, Roam to providence.

What damage will you take? what should you shoot them with? What ships are gonna shoot you?

T'Amber
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2010.05.11 11:32:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: T''Amber on 11/05/2010 11:34:04

NOT SUPPORTED.

There should be some risk for the reward (apart from the difficulty of the missions) and as is they promote more elements of gameplay where they are. This is also one of the only fun things for carebears to do in lowsec, and if you get rid of them, who are the piwates going to shoot?. Although I'm all for sleeper AI in missions X)

My sec status may be -10, but I'm definately no pirate. There was this accident in dodixie a couple of weeks ago you see...

I do however agree with your statements on the staleness of hisec, but I think theres a different way we could go about that - and I have many many ideas regarding this and is infact what I spend most of my time doing ingame (entertaining people in hisec). But this topic belongs in a different post.

-T'amber

Quote:
Vote T'amber for CSM
Vote buff the lowsec

Gunnanmon
Gallente
PURPLE.
Posted - 2010.05.11 13:04:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Ce'Nedra Cinteotl
Have CCP introduce sleeper AI to every 10th mission you run or a random number of missions. That'll shake up things for you.


Sorted.

Galen Gallente
Gallente
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2010.05.11 13:51:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: T'Amber
Edited by: T''Amber on 11/05/2010 11:34:04

NOT SUPPORTED.

There should be some risk for the reward (apart from the difficulty of the missions) and as is they promote more elements of gameplay where they are. This is also one of the only fun things for carebears to do in lowsec, and if you get rid of them, who are the piwates going to shoot?. Although I'm all for sleeper AI in missions X)

My sec status may be -10, but I'm definately no pirate. There was this accident in dodixie a couple of weeks ago you see...

I do however agree with your statements on the staleness of hisec, but I think theres a different way we could go about that - and I have many many ideas regarding this and is infact what I spend most of my time doing ingame (entertaining people in hisec). But this topic belongs in a different post.

-T'amber

Quote:
Vote T'amber for CSM
Vote buff the lowsec



I think low sec needs cleaned out. I am all for more things to do in High Sec that are PvE oriented. Actually I think those that have positive security status should be able to join up with the CONCORD and the 4 Empires and clean out Low Sec. Free podding and killing of all with negitive status. Give the "care bears" teeth without sec status loss and let us clean up the waste of space pirates.

eocsnesemaj
Keskerakond
Posted - 2010.05.13 11:24:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Scerolikk Teromni
Originally by: Karandar Maxiimis
...and before you all start flaming, because of the lower risk, lower the rewards from running in Hisec vs lowsec.


So you're saying make high-sec level 5's like level 4's.

If running level 4 missions is too monotonous for you, why do you think level 5 missions will be ANY DIFFERENT? Go buy some cajone seeds and plant them in your vagina. Place in a well-lit area and water twice a day... in a few weeks you will find yourself having the balls to go to low-sec to run your "totally-not-repetitive-and-grindy" level 5 missions. You obviously already have the (in-game) pvp skills. Stop trying to make EVE easy.


LOL Cajone seeds XD

Hells no to lvl5s in high sec . they should remove the ones that are there already.

ViolenTUK
Gallente
Demolition Men

Posted - 2010.05.13 13:18:00 - [19]
 

Actually this isnít a bad idea. Level 5 missions are more difficult than level 4ís and one of the factors for determining mission rewards is the security status of the system the agent is based in. If the High sec level 5ís reward was kept in line with the security status of the system it would work out fine. The missions would need to be such that one Battleship couldnít tank the mission of course so team work would be the key.

Iím still surprised that CCP placed level 5ís in low sec in the first place. Did they expect anyone to run them?

Nothing wrong with the idea at all.

King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
Posted - 2010.05.13 13:55:00 - [20]
 

Not supported. Different zones have their exclusive content. Level 5's and FW are low sec only content and it should stay that way. Also, lvl5's are boring and repetitive just like all other missions.

A challenge demands risk of failure by definition. In eve that means your ship explodes. How many ships do you think you'll lose in lvl5's? Once you've got them all memorized, how often will you lose one cause it's still challenging? I think you want a new isk faucet to grind, not a challenge.

Larry C
Posted - 2010.05.13 14:36:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: King Rothgar
I think you want a new isk faucet to grind, not a challenge.


They are not an isk faucet, please stay away from them.

Laughing

Taxesarebad
Posted - 2010.05.13 21:27:00 - [22]
 

very few ships can solo lvl 5's. and usually encourages a group so it adding more wouldnt be too bad.

ihate cynoing
Posted - 2010.05.25 08:02:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Taxesarebad
very few ships can solo lvl 5's. and usually encourages a group so it adding more wouldnt be too bad.


Almost every lvl5 can be done with a drake and basi.
Moar alts is Moar.

If the missions were not predictable and way way harder so it actually took a group of say 5-8 people then maybe. As that wont happen. Nein



 

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