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Water MEI
Posted - 2010.03.08 00:32:00 - [1]
 

just wish to ask everyone's opinion between those two supercarriers, which one is better overall?
I personally believe that nyx's look is way too awesome while aeon looks like a half-finished bestower...
nyx have 2000 extra dps with bombers at max level while aeon could reach over 70mil ehp with implants/gang bonus to ensure never primary...

so which one would you pick for a personal super-carrier? (personal owned, will use in fleet battle etc)
thanks everyone who replies!

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.03.08 00:55:00 - [2]
 

Of the two, the Nxy. The Aeon is way too ugly. Evil or Very Mad

-Liang

Poses
Posted - 2010.03.08 01:02:00 - [3]
 

so... it largely depends

if you spend all of your time in a single ship, does its looks or its bad-assness matter more

if looks then nyx if bad-assness then aeon

Cherubior
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.03.08 01:10:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Of the two, the Nxy. The Aeon is way too ugly. Evil or Very Mad

-Liang
/thread

Diomidis
Pod Liberation Authority
Posted - 2010.03.08 02:47:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Poses
so... it largely depends

if you spend all of your time in a single ship, does its looks or its bad-assness matter more

if looks then nyx if bad-assness then aeon


Yeah, most accounts grow-roots in Titans and M@therships lately :P

Droning Ceo
Posted - 2010.03.08 03:54:00 - [6]
 

tbh amarr are just the best race really :3

anyone who says otherwise is just a massive troll.

also who wouldn't want a 70m EHP shipppp :3 also drone bonus is lol on nyx.. yay i can solo pve content or add 2 bs's worth of damage..

OR i could last for ages in an aeon and actually be useful.

Leon Dalmasca
Gallente
Unknown Soldiers
Posted - 2010.03.08 04:32:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Water MEI
aeon could reach over 70mil ehp with implants/gang bonus to ensure never primary...


Please show us thorough proof of this occuring. a Simple carrier cant have more ehp than a Titan!

Water MEI
Posted - 2010.03.08 04:38:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Water MEI on 08/03/2010 04:48:41
EFT, full slave set (like any other super capital pilot in the game)
3x trimark II
erebus fleet bonus
x-type hardeners/officer EANM
damage control

71mil EHP, remember amarr super carrier get +5 to all armor resists bonus
they didnt change the name to 'stuper carrier' for no reason :p

Havegooda
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.03.08 05:24:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Leon Dalmasca
Originally by: Water MEI
aeon could reach over 70mil ehp with implants/gang bonus to ensure never primary...


Please show us thorough proof of this occuring. a Simple carrier cant have more ehp than a Titan!


Aeon != Carrier

Nussy
Posted - 2010.03.08 05:27:00 - [10]
 

Not that it matters at all but it can get 81.4m ehp with damnation and erebus in gang.

Dusica
Amarr
Posted - 2010.03.08 05:46:00 - [11]
 

Aeon is best Motherships ... rest are only super carriers ;)

eh btw Jove ships are best

Grek Forto
Crosshair Corp
Posted - 2010.03.08 06:05:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Havegooda
Originally by: Leon Dalmasca
Originally by: Water MEI
aeon could reach over 70mil ehp with implants/gang bonus to ensure never primary...


Please show us thorough proof of this occuring. a Simple carrier cant have more ehp than a Titan!


Aeon = SuperCarrier


fyp Cool

Havegooda
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.03.08 07:14:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Grek Forto
Originally by: Havegooda
Originally by: Leon Dalmasca
Originally by: Water MEI
aeon could reach over 70mil ehp with implants/gang bonus to ensure never primary...


Please show us thorough proof of this occuring. a Simple carrier cant have more ehp than a Titan!


Aeon = SuperCarrier


fyp Cool


No **** sherlock. I said "Aeon != Carrier"

!= means is not.

l2internets

Arbiter Reformed
Minmatar
Garnet Resources
Posted - 2010.03.08 08:07:00 - [14]
 

aeon is just a beast, nyx is only considerd 'good' because the wyvern is shield and lolhel

Ap0ll0n
Gallente
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.03.08 08:15:00 - [15]
 

Aeon all the way. When you are in a fleet with a lvl 5 Erebus pilot, you simply laugh at everyone else when you look at your stats. 6mill armor HP with all resists 90+.

The damage from a nyx is cool, but in a lagfight, those 20-30mill ekstra EHP is win.

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2010.03.08 08:32:00 - [16]
 

You would seriously spend 20B or so on a ship as ugly as the aeon?

A primary role of supercarriers is now also dps with fighterbombers, so the bonus of the nyx is usefull.

Ap0ll0n
Gallente
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.03.08 08:42:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Furb Killer
You would seriously spend 20B or so on a ship as ugly as the aeon?

A primary role of supercarriers is now also dps with fighterbombers, so the bonus of the nyx is usefull.


Might be ugly, but in the end, its all about who is left, and the Aeon certainly have a better chance of staying alive than the Nyx. The lack og resist bonus and terrible slot layout makes the Aeon a clear winner over the Nyx.

Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.03.08 09:28:00 - [18]
 

definitely the aeon, though i would swap the resist bonus for rep amount and give it a utility midslot.(joke!)

on a more serious note, when will shield tanking cap pilots get a shield version of the slave set - make it cap ship only, fine. I appreciate the difference between shield and armour tanks and buffers in the subcap game and have used both to their strengths, especially shields as I like to go it alone, but it's simply poor balancing that armour tanks are plain superior by a 50% or w/e margin end game, capital ship wise, by virtue of slave sets and local tanks being left back in 2000whenever with the ever increasing capital blobs.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2010.03.08 09:49:00 - [19]
 

From this and similar post, I have to infer that the Minmatar being only good up to BCs does not change thru the years?

Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.03.08 10:33:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
From this and similar post, I have to infer that the Minmatar being only good up to BCs does not change thru the years?


i dunno, the maelstrom is fun for one way solo battleship pvp as it has great range with 800mm ACs, great dps and a brilliant cap boosted active tank (also fitting a point), and i have some plans for a tempest (which i basically have stolen when i saw it being used against me hahaha) but i can't fathom the typhoon.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2010.03.08 10:42:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Taua Roqa
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
From this and similar post, I have to infer that the Minmatar being only good up to BCs does not change thru the years?


i dunno, the maelstrom is fun for one way solo battleship pvp as it has great range with 800mm ACs, great dps and a brilliant cap boosted active tank (also fitting a point), and i have some plans for a tempest (which i basically have stolen when i saw it being used against me hahaha) but i can't fathom the typhoon.


I am talking about fleet fights. While I had to stop PvPing for my signature's corp due to RL time constraints, I'd love to start again "when I can". But I distinctly recall people in Minnie BS being almost insured against being ever primaried, they were just ignored.

Also, I was mostly talking about capitals, I just don't recall ANYONE talking about how powerful and useful the Minnie carriers / dreads / motherships / titans are.
Ok some are "vertical", but what about beyond the visuals?

Yoji Kio
Posted - 2010.03.08 11:26:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha

Also, I was mostly talking about capitals, I just don't recall ANYONE talking about how powerful and useful the Minnie carriers / dreads / motherships / titans are.
Ok some are "vertical", but what about beyond the visuals?


Min Carrier is best carrier for 0.0. Repping bonus makes everyone love you when repping a pos and such. But the lack of power and HP over the others makes it a primary every time.

Min Dread douse a tone of dps.

Min BS (Tempest) is a really great Fleet BS as it has a effective range 20+km more then most so you can sit a bit further from the enemy blob and never be primaried (untill your fleet is dead)

Minmatar are hard to play, Like the French everyone loves there food but when left alone in a fight they fail horribly (BS and above)

Emperor Ryan
Amarr
The Illuminatii
Mildly Intoxicated
Posted - 2010.03.08 11:28:00 - [23]
 

By the way, Aeon can reach over 100m Ehp, whereass the Nyx can reach just under 40m, How is this done? Full Buffer + Damntion w Links(plus midlink) + Erebus + Slaves and some Trimark II's. Dont forget Overload =]

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.03.08 11:30:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Of the two, the Nxy. The Aeon is way too ugly. Evil or Very Mad

-Liang


This. If you're gonna spend 12-15 bill on a ship, it had better look good.

Ap0ll0n
Gallente
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.03.08 11:44:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Of the two, the Nxy. The Aeon is way too ugly. Evil or Very Mad

-Liang


This. If you're gonna spend 12-15 bill on a ship, it had better look good.


Nyx is ugly when your looking at its wreck. And the hole in your wallet.. Laughing

Rivur'Tam
Posted - 2010.03.08 12:03:00 - [26]
 

i can fly both and i choose the nyx its just looks so good the aeon tanks better but the nyx dose more dps thats how u would choose between thembut did i mention how good he nyx looks

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2010.03.08 12:26:00 - [27]
 

Quote:

Minmatar are hard to play



This is none of my concern, all I wanted is to have it harder but the results be worth it.
Otherwise it's just about being a clown working twice as hard to achieve less than the others and be laughed at.

Naomi Knight
Amarr
Posted - 2010.03.08 12:34:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Quote:

Minmatar are hard to play



This is none of my concern, all I wanted is to have it harder but the results be worth it.
Otherwise it's just about being a clown working twice as hard to achieve less than the others and be laughed at.



Actually matar is the easiest race of the 4.

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.03.08 16:12:00 - [29]
 

aeon, hp >> dps

Mayulus
Posted - 2010.03.08 17:02:00 - [30]
 

im the only one who like the aeon more than the nyx ? :D


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