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Spugg Galdon
Posted - 2010.03.03 10:25:00 - [1]
 

The G-V was a highly overpowered and very hard to come by faction cruiser pre-dominion. Post dominion it seems to have disappeared. I would like to see this ship return to LP stores with very similar bonuses. I can't see how this would be overpowered compared to the other faction cruisers however it would be slightly out side of angels combat remit of super powerful blasters and webifiers. But I think I could live with that Laughing

So... the G-V would sound like this....

The Guardian-Vexor is the latest ship the Guardian Angels have stolen and redesigned to meet their own needs. Building on the Vexor's natural strengths of heavy firepower and hoardes of drones the Angels have created a monster. Alone, this ship is feared by many. In a group, this ship is feared by all.

Special Ability: 25% (0r 50% if its not too much) bonus to medium hybrid turret damage
Gallente cruiser skill bonus: +1 extra drone controlled per level
Minimatar cruiser skill bonus: 10% bonus to the velocity factor of stasis webifiers per level

5 lows slots
4 medium slots
5 high slots (5 turret 0 launchers)

PG: 725 MW
CPU 400 tf
Calibration: 350 points (3 rigs)

Drones: Capacity 125 m3 100 Mbit/sec [125 Mbit/sec is probably too much]

Shana Matika
Posted - 2010.03.03 10:32:00 - [2]
 

Well correct me but the guardian vexor was a "special Ship" handed out to a few pilots as a reward (Alliance Tournament or something like this) several years ago.
There is a fix number of these ships. 20 or 50 or so.

No LP Store Item. It was never one! So there won't be a return to LP store anyway

Valandril
Caldari
Ex-Mortis
Posted - 2010.03.03 10:33:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Shana Matika
Well correct me but the guardian vexor was a "special Ship" handed out to a few pilots as a reward (Alliance Tournament or something like this) several years ago.
There is a fix number of these ships. 20 or 50 or so.

No LP Store Item. It was never one! So there won't be a return to LP store anyway
Yep, and it's going to stick that way tyvm.

darius mclever
Posted - 2010.03.03 10:46:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Spugg Galdon
The G-V was a highly overpowered and very hard to come by faction cruiser pre-dominion. Post dominion it seems to have disappeared. I would like to see this ship return to LP stores with very similar bonuses. I can't see how this would be overpowered compared to the other faction cruisers however it would be slightly out side of angels combat remit of super powerful blasters and webifiers. But I think I could live with that Laughing

So... the G-V would sound like this....

The Guardian-Vexor is the latest ship the Guardian Angels have stolen and redesigned to meet their own needs. Building on the Vexor's natural strengths of heavy firepower and hoardes of drones the Angels have created a monster. Alone, this ship is feared by many. In a group, this ship is feared by all.

Special Ability: 25% (0r 50% if its not too much) bonus to medium hybrid turret damage
Gallente cruiser skill bonus: +1 extra drone controlled per level
Minimatar cruiser skill bonus: 10% bonus to the velocity factor of stasis webifiers per level

5 lows slots
4 medium slots
5 high slots (5 turret 0 launchers)

PG: 725 MW
CPU 400 tf
Calibration: 350 points (3 rigs)

Drones: Capacity 125 m3 100 Mbit/sec [125 Mbit/sec is probably too much]


search the sell order forums plenty of people tried to sell guardian vexors. though you need to be willing to pay 20+bn for one. oh and in case you want to pvp/pve in it ... they come free with a "call me primary"-sticker on all sides.

hope this helps.

Huan CK
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2010.03.03 11:36:00 - [5]
 

Also its a very nice ship, its basically a collectors item. Should stay as is.

Serge Bastana
Gallente
GWA Corp
Posted - 2010.03.03 11:39:00 - [6]
 

Why would you be so bothered about how powerful you think the GV is? The chances of encountering one are pretty much zero so why waste the time.

Most of them, the ones that still exist and haven't been popped on sight, are in the hands of collectors and, as mentioned above, sell for billions. Hardly something that's going to be used in general pvp like the other faction cruisers.

bonkerss
Gallente
NucleoTech
Posted - 2010.03.03 12:27:00 - [7]
 

Fifty Guardian Vexors were given out as part of an event. It is suspected that fewer than 20 still exist today.

http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Guardian-Vexor

Spugg Galdon
Posted - 2010.03.03 13:13:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Spugg Galdon on 03/03/2010 13:13:42
Originally by: Shana Matika
Well correct me but the guardian vexor was a "special Ship" handed out to a few pilots as a reward (Alliance Tournament or something like this) several years ago.
There is a fix number of these ships. 20 or 50 or so.

No LP Store Item. It was never one! So there won't be a return to LP store anyway


Oh well, that is a shame.

Thanks for letting me know. I'd still like the ship to be readily availible like the other faction cruisers. I don't think something being a "collectable" and becoming "hanger pawn" is good for the game.


WormHoletester
Posted - 2010.03.03 13:22:00 - [9]
 

I agree.....if the ship works and fits with game ballace.....why waste it? If its a fun ship to fly...eve loses out having it so limited.Or introduce a new ship with most of its attributes.

darius mclever
Posted - 2010.03.03 13:30:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: WormHoletester
I agree.....if the ship works and fits with game ballace.....why waste it? If its a fun ship to fly...eve loses out having it so limited.Or introduce a new ship with most of its attributes.


navy vexor and ishtar?

Jerid Verges
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.03.03 15:24:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: darius mclever
Originally by: WormHoletester
I agree.....if the ship works and fits with game ballace.....why waste it? If its a fun ship to fly...eve loses out having it so limited.Or introduce a new ship with most of its attributes.


navy vexor and ishtar?


Neither of those have the +5 Drones that the GV does. Ever since the nerf where no sub capital ship can field more then 5 drones.

The ship is basically useless.

We should go back to certain ships with the ability to control +5 drones.

Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Posted - 2010.03.03 15:32:00 - [12]
 

Agreed a ship once present shouldn't just vanish like that, it should re-appear with NPC as either the faction ship it was or as some high tech evolution on itself.

Don't just throw novelty one-offs out there, build on them for the future.

Also I'd like a kick-ass ship on the Navitas hull, please.

darius mclever
Posted - 2010.03.03 15:35:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Jerid Verges
Originally by: darius mclever
Originally by: WormHoletester
I agree.....if the ship works and fits with game ballace.....why waste it? If its a fun ship to fly...eve loses out having it so limited.Or introduce a new ship with most of its attributes.


navy vexor and ishtar?


Neither of those have the +5 Drones that the GV does. Ever since the nerf where no sub capital ship can field more then 5 drones.

The ship is basically useless.

We should go back to certain ships with the ability to control +5 drones.


you might remember the time when the bonus of the gallente ships was +1 drone per level. and it got converted into 5 drones but with hp/dmg bonus per level so you will still have 10 effective drones at lvl5.

all done for performance reasons. why should CCP revert the performance improvement?

Delenne Sheridan
Posted - 2010.03.03 16:45:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Delenne Sheridan on 03/03/2010 16:46:00
Originally by: darius mclever
Originally by: Jerid Verges
Originally by: darius mclever
Originally by: WormHoletester
I agree.....if the ship works and fits with game ballace.....why waste it? If its a fun ship to fly...eve loses out having it so limited.Or introduce a new ship with most of its attributes.


navy vexor and ishtar?


Neither of those have the +5 Drones that the GV does. Ever since the nerf where no sub capital ship can field more then 5 drones.

The ship is basically useless.

We should go back to certain ships with the ability to control +5 drones.


you might remember the time when the bonus of the gallente ships was +1 drone per level. and it got converted into 5 drones but with hp/dmg bonus per level so you will still have 10 effective drones at lvl5.

all done for performance reasons. why should CCP revert the performance improvement?


Better tech and servers would make that "performance improvement" meaningless now...

darius mclever
Posted - 2010.03.03 16:52:00 - [15]
 

and that comment in the light of dominion's performance problems. :)

Delenne Sheridan
Posted - 2010.03.03 17:18:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: darius mclever
and that comment in the light of dominion's performance problems. :)


Let me rephrase: Were the performance issues on the server or client side?

Reggie Stoneloader
Poofdinkles
Posted - 2010.03.03 17:22:00 - [17]
 

It would sure be easier to smartbomb ten unbonuses drones than to smartbomb 5 bonused drones.

Also, seed freki BPOs and put the state issue raven in the LP store.

darius mclever
Posted - 2010.03.03 18:04:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Delenne Sheridan
Originally by: darius mclever
and that comment in the light of dominion's performance problems. :)


Let me rephrase: Were the performance issues on the server or client side?



for me in both.

el Sabor
Posted - 2010.03.03 18:19:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Spugg Galdon

Thanks for letting me know. I'd still like the ship to be readily availible like the other faction cruisers. I don't think something being a "collectable" and becoming "hanger pawn" is good for the game.



I think it's great for the game! It's all the little oddities that keep the game interesting.

Ydyp Ieva
Caldari
Amarrian Retribution
Posted - 2010.03.04 08:54:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Ydyp Ieva on 04/03/2010 08:55:10
Originally by: Reggie Stoneloader
It would sure be easier to smartbomb ten unbonuses drones than to smartbomb 5 bonused drones.

Also, seed freki BPOs and put the state issue raven in the LP store.

And how many people fly around having a smartbomb fitted all the time?
They gave indeed a boost to the drones HP/DMG so effectively you didn't lose any hp and dmg with limiting the number of drones to 5. But they forgot that you had to target 15 drones in that time each taking it's time. And I haven't found a ship yet that can target 15 at one time, but most can target 5 at one time.

So the chance was effectively a stealth drone nerf AND a smartbomb nerf to (if you look at it this way). However a more stable and performing server is more important, otherwise it would be again easier to play the game let see how many drones we can launch to cause lag for jumping in people so we can pop them before they even load their screens.

And Gaurdian Vexor should stay as is, a billion ship that is good for having in a station. Or risk getting suicide to kingon khan.

Slade Hoo
Amarr
Retired Gunslingers
Posted - 2010.03.04 09:39:00 - [21]
 

I want a tribal issue tempest bpo!

Flying ZombieJesus
Posted - 2010.03.04 13:51:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Jerid Verges

We should go back to certain ships with the ability to control +5 drones.


give the ishtar 10 warriors!

Lone Provider
Posted - 2010.03.04 13:54:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Lone Provider on 04/03/2010 13:54:33
Originally by: Flying ZombieJesus
Originally by: Jerid Verges

We should go back to certain ships with the ability to control +5 drones.


give the ishtar 10 warriors!



and make it look like this Very Happy

Spugg Galdon
Posted - 2010.03.23 00:14:00 - [24]
 

So why would it be such a bad thing to reintroduce this ship as an LP buyable ship? A collectors item is a little dull, especially as a ship.

I'd like to see these appearing on the contract pages again. Anyone else?

darius mclever
Posted - 2010.03.23 00:25:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Spugg Galdon
So why would it be such a bad thing to reintroduce this ship as an LP buyable ship? A collectors item is a little dull, especially as a ship.

I'd like to see these appearing on the contract pages again. Anyone else?



see sell order forums, for shy 25+bn you can get your guardian vexor. oh and please tell me when you undock it. i will visit you for a small suicide gank.


 

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