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Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2010.03.02 09:07:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: solicitatora



pardon the capital letter folks, I had to scream over all the UK folks invading my post.

go away you pesky flies. true fact - flies eat only the leftover trash... lolZ


I bow before the true masters of Providence: ~IRC~




Lord Makk
Caldari
Trust Doesn't Rust
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.03.02 09:16:00 - [92]
 

Terrible poster reporting in.

Your orders sir ?

Ltd SpacePig
Amarr
FISKL GUARDS
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2010.03.02 10:15:00 - [93]
 

Wow! So many tears from U'K and AAA in here.. buhuuu big bad wolf CVA took 3 system from catch.. what a big threat we are to you. So you took D-G to show your point, good! You got the biggest cap slaughter in the game, but that wasn't enough. Then you gave CVA a peace offer you knew that they never would accept. So you decide to **** Providence because CVA wouldn't bow for you. So now your almost done destroying the one region in this game where newer players could get their first taste of 0.0 before they move on.

The unique thing about providence wasn't that ONE alliance was NRDS, we all enforce NRDS in providence. Thats why newcomers don't have to pay or clear anything with any diplo before they come to providence. They could come out here, get a taste of 0.0, do some pvp, ratting or what ever in peace. What Providence was under CVA is something this game really needs. This is what true NRDS means to me and for providence. No matter what U'K says that will be gone when this war is over. Providence will now become like every other 0.0 region in this game.

And please.. stop with the victim role, your not a victim in this war.. you may not have started this war but should had ended it after D-G no matter what. There is no sane reason behind your actions after D-G.

Cya on the battlefield! Twisted Evil

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.03.02 10:21:00 - [94]
 

Don't worry new players can just join Systematic Chaos alliance. They accept 2 week old characters.

McFly
Caldari
Peanut Factory
Good Sax
Posted - 2010.03.02 10:22:00 - [95]
 

So CVA should be in Providence becuase they are friendly NRDS...?

No entity in eve is entitled to anything, CVA has it's black marks against it just like any other entity. Now you're on the losing side. So whining about how much eve needs CVA as a justification for CVA's presence in Providence, regardless of their actions and diplomatic choices is a moot point.

More entities should be NRDS imho, however using such as a justification for CVA to keep their space regardless of CVA's Actions is pretty dumb.

Lord Makk
Caldari
Trust Doesn't Rust
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.03.02 10:28:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Ltd SpacePig
Wow! So many tears from people like me in here


You crying about tears while your own flows is simply priceless.

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.03.02 10:39:00 - [97]
 

Don't worry Butter Dog it seems there are quite a few Providence alliances that are worse posters than the ones in your alliance.

Borza Slavak
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.03.02 11:00:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: rmfHorus
we have a caod ban on alliance, unless you are an official voice for IRC so stop pot solicitatora.




Hey, don't be giving Sapphrine any ideas man. If he banned us from CAOD it'd be the worst thing since our incubation.

bornaa
Minmatar
PORSCHE AG
Terminal Ferocity
Posted - 2010.03.02 11:36:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: RuleoftheBone
Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 01/03/2010 21:47:30
Somebody must be losing access to ratting alt or something.

Just be like everyone else and put up your firesales....and go get yer shinebox for the Jita trade Laughing

**edit**i am molle Embarassed


or join a big alliance, rat on their space and feel that by pressing f1 to f8 when you're ordered you to among 1000's of other guys earned you the rights to be ****y on the forum Laughing

Eskalin
Minmatar
Evolution
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.03.02 12:22:00 - [100]
 

CVA is getting what they deserve. they know it and are taking it like men for the most part(and not being all buttsore on the forums) you are doing them a disservice by thinking that they want or need your white knighting.

Originally by: bornaa
or join a big alliance, rat on their space and feel that by pressing f1 to f8 when you're ordered you to among 1000's of other guys earned you the rights to be ****y on the forum Laughing


aww poor no name in no name alliance FYI it's just f1 now that ccp has made it easier with grouping. stay bitter.
ps. I'm arrogant cause i am better than you.

RuleoftheBone
Minmatar
Black Viper Nomads
Posted - 2010.03.02 12:23:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: bornaa
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 01/03/2010 21:47:30
Somebody must be losing access to ratting alt or something.

Just be like everyone else and put up your firesales....and go get yer shinebox for the Jita trade Laughing

**edit**i am molle Embarassed


or join a big alliance, rat on their space and feel that by pressing f1 to f8 when you're ordered you to among 1000's of other guys earned you the rights to be ****y on the forum Laughing


Hahahahahahaha oh boy.
Actually last night all I had to do was lift my pinky and press F1 to activate HIC bubble. I got tired of F1-F6 in the ole Tempest :effort:.

As if there is any other way to actually take space Rolling Eyes.

Trust me...most folks will be quite happy when all the fleet crap is done and those that enjoy small gang stuff can return to it...and afk cloaking etc. Where you live again?

YARRRR!!


UVPhoenix2
Gallente
Rim Collection RC
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.03.02 12:33:00 - [102]
 

It's called blowback.

Sapphrine
Caldari
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.03.02 13:09:00 - [103]
 

U'K posters, less trolling, more ignoring. Sure the OP is being a tard but just let his stupidity stand on its 'merit'. 4 pages of drivel does nothing and yes I know, sense in my CAOD etc.


Lilan Kahn
Amarr
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2010.03.02 13:22:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Sapphrine
U'K posters, less trolling, more ignoring. Sure the OP is being a tard but just let his stupidity stand on its 'merit'. 4 pages of drivel does nothing and yes I know, sense in my CAOD etc.




go back to igs plx n00b

bornaa
Minmatar
PORSCHE AG
Terminal Ferocity
Posted - 2010.03.02 16:07:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Eskalin
CVA is getting what they deserve. they know it and are taking it like men for the most part(and not being all buttsore on the forums) you are doing them a disservice by thinking that they want or need your white knighting.

Originally by: bornaa
or join a big alliance, rat on their space and feel that by pressing f1 to f8 when you're ordered you to among 1000's of other guys earned you the rights to be ****y on the forum Laughing


aww poor no name in no name alliance FYI it's just f1 now that ccp has made it easier with grouping. stay bitter.
ps. I'm arrogant cause i am better than you.


did you recognize yourself somewhere in there and it huwt youw wiwl feewings? awww Embarassed

maybe if i kiss enough ass i can be a tiny irrelevant, easily replaceable cog in a big alliance like yourself. cant wait! YARRRR!!

solicitatora
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2010.03.02 17:17:00 - [106]
 

C'MON FOLKS GET IN THIS POST AND TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER.

NEW PLAYERS ARE LOSING THEIR ONLY WAY OF LEARNING THE NULL SEC LIFE FOR FREE!!! WITHOUT GIVING ANYTHING IN RETURN TO OTHER ALLIANCES..

GETTING VERY GOOD MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT THE WHOLE DILEMMA. KEEP THOSE COMMENTS COMING GUYS....

THIS IS WAY TOO IMPORTANT AGAIN TO OVERLOOK.. THANKS ALL IN ADVANCED....


Lykouleon
Gallente
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.03.02 17:18:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Lord Makk
Your orders sir ?


gb2 making me ISK and stop posting, thats my job Evil or Very Mad

Dr Ngo
Amarr
JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION GET IN THE CAR
WE FORM VOLTRON
Posted - 2010.03.02 17:19:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: solicitatora
C'MON FOLKS GET IN THIS POST AND TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER.

NEW PLAYERS ARE LOSING THEIR ONLY WAY OF LEARNING THE NULL SEC LIFE FOR FREE!!! WITHOUT GIVING ANYTHING IN RETURN TO OTHER ALLIANCES..

GETTING VERY GOOD MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT THE WHOLE DILEMMA. KEEP THOSE COMMENTS COMING GUYS....

THIS IS WAY TOO IMPORTANT AGAIN TO OVERLOOK.. THANKS ALL IN ADVANCED....




The troll is over. Go home.

Ba'Rumph
Caldari
The Really Awesome Players
Posted - 2010.03.02 17:33:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Ltd SpacePig
Then you gave CVA a peace offer you knew that they never would accept.


I heard the peace offer was "We'll give you back all your space if you promise not to invade our space again." If CVA couldn't accept that, they deserve to die.

Ruezer
Gallente
Grid Square Removal System
Posted - 2010.03.02 18:03:00 - [110]
 

hey UK...can you hurry and finish what your doing so we can have "friendly" pew pew action again. Your anger towards CVA is not much fun when you blow up my ships

Sandwich PvP
Caldari
Furian Necromongers
Posted - 2010.03.02 18:20:00 - [111]
 

As a disinterested observer I say ... Kill zem, kill zem all.
Cool

And to the OP I say: Your own people are telling you to shutup, take their advice.

Garreck
Gallente
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2010.03.02 18:26:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Ba'Rumph

I heard the peace offer was "We'll give you back all your space if you promise not to invade our space again." If CVA couldn't accept that, they deserve to die.


Y'know, it's interesting to read something like this when all anyone ever complains about these days as regards 0.0 in particular is the NIP/NAPfesting, the bandwaggons, blah de blah...

CVA aren't trying to be heroes by refusing to back down even though we know we can't win, but given all the anti NAP/NIP sentiment that goes around one might think people would at least 'get' why we have no desire to feed the NAP/NIP culture. Either we hold space at our whim or we lose space. That's far healthier for the game as a whole than stepping back in line and being just one more potential conflict that will never happen, one more alliance that shouldn't hold space but does anyway.

solicitatora
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2010.03.02 18:28:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Ba'Rumph

I heard the peace offer was "We'll give you back all your space if you promise not to invade our space again." If CVA couldn't accept that, they deserve to die.


Y'know, it's interesting to read something like this when all anyone ever complains about these days as regards 0.0 in particular is the NIP/NAPfesting, the bandwaggons, blah de blah...

CVA aren't trying to be heroes by refusing to back down even though we know we can't win, but given all the anti NAP/NIP sentiment that goes around one might think people would at least 'get' why we have no desire to feed the NAP/NIP culture. Either we hold space at our whim or we lose space. That's far healthier for the game as a whole than stepping back in line and being just one more potential conflict that will never happen, one more alliance that shouldn't hold space but does anyway.



I totally support this! two thumbs up....

RuleoftheBone
Minmatar
Black Viper Nomads
Posted - 2010.03.02 18:38:00 - [114]
 

Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 02/03/2010 18:43:36
Originally by: bornaa


Drivel




Oh look another one begging for perpetual roaming and cloaking gangs. Where is it the mighty whatever-yer-alliance-name-is hangs out?

I get befuddled trying to find these tiny little ****holes even on Ombey's maps Embarassed

**edit**ex-Sylph or something? figures Rolling Eyes

Ba'Rumph
Caldari
The Really Awesome Players
Posted - 2010.03.02 18:39:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Garreck

Y'know, it's interesting to read something like this when all anyone ever complains about these days as regards 0.0 in particular is the NIP/NAPfesting, the bandwaggons, blah de blah...

CVA aren't trying to be heroes by refusing to back down even though we know we can't win, but given all the anti NAP/NIP sentiment that goes around one might think people would at least 'get' why we have no desire to feed the NAP/NIP culture. Either we hold space at our whim or we lose space. That's far healthier for the game as a whole than stepping back in line and being just one more potential conflict that will never happen, one more alliance that shouldn't hold space but does anyway.


Honestly, I think it's great that you'd rather fight to the death than have boring NAPs. The problem is that so many of your renters seem to think that -A- et al is some sort of uber evil aggressor (ok, they are uber evil, but they aren't the aggressors), when in fact there was a way out for CVA and pets from the get go.

So, if all you want is ~good fights~ while you die, go for it. Just tell your renters this so they can gtfo to empire and not die for your ~good fights~.

CVA has harbored criminals for far too long, and I look forward to them being back where I can shoot them without getting blobbed by you guys.

Stratio
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Damu'Khonde
Posted - 2010.03.02 19:07:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Garreck
Either we hold space at our whim or we lose space. That's far healthier for the game as a whole than stepping back in line and being just one more potential conflict that will never happen, one more alliance that shouldn't hold space but does anyway.

When CVA was disbanded recently, .-A-. was a very good neighbour to you. Was that wrong of them?
Now that you(proviblock) had invaded their space, they gave you a bloody nose in D-G but offered to go back to the relationship you had before. Was that wrong of them?
We all enjoy roaming providence and RP aside it would be a shame if that were lost. At the moment you are not even fighting for your space.

Danny Lonnegan
Caldari
United Amarr Templar Legion
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2010.03.02 19:16:00 - [117]
 

Edited by: Danny Lonnegan on 02/03/2010 19:23:46
Originally by: Ltd SpacePig
Wow! So many tears from U'K and AAA in here.. buhuuu big bad wolf CVA took 3 system from catch.. what a big threat we are to you. So you took D-G to show your point, good! You got the biggest cap slaughter in the game, but that wasn't enough. Then you gave CVA a peace offer you knew that they never would accept. So you decide to **** Providence because CVA wouldn't bow for you. So now your almost done destroying the one region in this game where newer players could get their first taste of 0.0 before they move on.
As a response to the CVA invasion of Catch, burning down Provi is probably overkill. However, it's a lot more than that. Consider:

1) Destroying CVA removes a potential threat to AAA's flank if (when) the next big war between north and south breaks out.

2) Destroying CVA removes a potential staging area for Northern Coalition forces if (when) the next big war between north and south breaks out.

3) Destroying CVA sends a powerful message to all the other small alliances in the south--"Don't play sov games with us."

4) Placing a friendly alliance (U-K) in North Providence essentially opens three new outlets to Empire space (conveniently close to Rens and Amarr, at that) for AAA.

You can't look at the CVA invasion out of context. The Provibloc hit them exactly when they were tied up with the Goons. It doesn't matter if we weren't actually allied with Goonswarm; it showed CVA's willingness to take advantage of AAA when it was distracted by a more dangerous enemy. Not to mention, those empty systems we invaded might not have been very valuable in and of themselves, but they're in striking distance of HED, a critical outlet to Empire space for AAA. Do I think we were actually planning to take HED? No. But that doesn't matter--Provibloc, intentionally or not, changed the game, and AAA is a lot better at this game than we are. If we'd gone after some dead-end systems somewhere unimportant, it might have been different, but we didn't, and it's too late to cry about it now.

I don't particularly like being run out of my home (btw, fire sale in G5! All the cheap T1 crap you've ever wanted at low low prices! Everything must Go! Go! Go!), but if I were AAA, I would be doing exactly the same thing they're doing right now. It makes good strategic sense for them. Boo-hoo-hooing about it on the forum just makes you look like you need your diaper changed.

Garreck
Gallente
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2010.03.02 19:28:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Stratio

When CVA was disbanded recently, .-A-. was a very good neighbour to you. Was that wrong of them?

This keeps getting brought up as if it's at all relevant. It's not. That was a very good thing of -A- to do as we got boned by a EULA breach. After CCP squared everything away, it was game on again and that was clearly understood.
Originally by: Stratio

Now that you(proviblock) had invaded their space, they gave you a bloody nose in D-G but offered to go back to the relationship you had before.

Wrong to offer? Nah, it's a smart move, saves you guys a lot of trouble if we agreed to the terms. Wrong of us to accept? You betcha.
Originally by: Stratio
At the moment you are not even fighting for your space.

This is not at all accurate. We're just not fighting the way you'd like to see us fight. Now that's something I know U'K can relate to Wink

Ba'Rumph
Caldari
The Really Awesome Players
Posted - 2010.03.02 19:55:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Garreck

Wrong to offer? Nah, it's a smart move, saves you guys a lot of trouble if we agreed to the terms.


Saves them a lot of trouble if you accept the offer for them to give you back systems they already took?

Originally by: Garreck

Wrong of us to accept? You betcha.


I suppose you didn't want that space anyway.

Garreck
Gallente
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2010.03.02 20:15:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Ba'Rumph

I suppose you didn't want that space anyway.


Make no mistake: we want the space and it sucks to be getting our teeth kicked in. But that's the nature of the game.


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