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Nestor Ne'Arthe
Amarr
Firebird Squadron
Posted - 2010.03.05 15:48:00 - [121]
 

Originally by: Dr Stroomb

Thank you Nestor, thank you. I could not have said it better myself. I am sick and tired of people boasting they're pvping and then find them in killmails with 50 other peeps. So sad. It's player versus player, in singular. Since we are at it, what do you think of fleets and blobs?


Fleets and blobs are fine. You can't prevent people from banding together for a common goal. Creating an alliance to fight people is ok. All of this is more of an attitude issue. People boasting about their pvp skillz, while all they do is shooting fish in a barrel.

Fleet fights have 50 other people on killmails, that's ok, that's what fleet battles are for. War is fought in a crowd. As long as both sides feel equally about the combat, it's all ok. Once you start shooting people who are more or less civilians, everything is getting pretty much one sided.

And to all those '1337' pvpers, who will undoubtedly go "bawwww carebear" - you're just as much of a carebear, because when someone drops a very organized alliance fleet on you, you gonna go 'baaawwwww' yourself. We all know you'll do.

D3rg3
Minmatar
Alpann Siad Anam
Posted - 2010.03.05 15:50:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: Dr Stroomb
what do you think of fleets and blobs?


there are no blobs in eve, just a fleet looking for a decent fight

idiots who complain about blobs are usually the same ones in a small gang ganking solo ships. no difference.

lay the fkkuking blob whines to rest will you


Vimple
Caldari
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2010.03.05 15:59:00 - [123]
 

Edited by: Vimple on 05/03/2010 15:59:11
Originally by: D3rg3
Originally by: Dr Stroomb
what do you think of fleets and blobs?


there are no blobs in eve, just a fleet looking for a decent fight

idiots who complain about blobs are usually the same ones in a small gang ganking solo ships. no difference.

lay the fkkuking blob whines to rest will you




You sir. I could not agree with more. -V

Julia Maesa
Caldari
Capital Ventures Inc.
Posted - 2010.03.05 16:01:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: D3rg3
Originally by: Dr Stroomb
what do you think of fleets and blobs?


there are no blobs in eve, just a fleet looking for a decent fight

idiots who complain about blobs are usually the same ones in a small gang ganking solo ships. no difference.

lay the fkkuking blob whines to rest will you




Totally agree, blobbing is relative.

Orree
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.03.05 16:08:00 - [125]
 

Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe
Originally by: Dr Stroomb

Thank you Nestor, thank you. I could not have said it better myself. I am sick and tired of people boasting they're pvping and then find them in killmails with 50 other peeps. So sad. It's player versus player, in singular. Since we are at it, what do you think of fleets and blobs?


Fleets and blobs are fine. You can't prevent people from banding together for a common goal. Creating an alliance to fight people is ok. All of this is more of an attitude issue. People boasting about their pvp skillz, while all they do is shooting fish in a barrel.

Fleet fights have 50 other people on killmails, that's ok, that's what fleet battles are for. War is fought in a crowd. As long as both sides feel equally about the combat, it's all ok. Once you start shooting people who are more or less civilians, everything is getting pretty much one sided.

And to all those '1337' pvpers, who will undoubtedly go "bawwww carebear" - you're just as much of a carebear, because when someone drops a very organized alliance fleet on you, you gonna go 'baaawwwww' yourself. We all know you'll do.



Cripes...I've been saying this for years in this forum (and others). Yet, the same nonsense pervades this place year after year. Laughing

It's all comes down to what people need to believe to soothe their butthurt egos.


Faekurias
Caldari
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2010.03.05 16:17:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: Vimple
**Disclaimer** The below statment does not refelct upon my alliance/corporation. It is mine and mine alone. **Disclaimer**

Stainwagon will die due to the simple fact that SE jumped the gun without communicating with the rest of Stainwagon. SE has always had trouble staying on the same page with the rest of SW along the lines of who is blue to everyone else. Now they went and dropped the ball. Coven are following along out of loyalty. So the sides are drwan up LR, SC vs SE, Coven, and Stainless. IT will prob back there new pets. The question is will -A- and Atlas stand by and watch. If they both stay neut or back LR, SC then Stainwagon is absolutly dead. Unless of course SE/Coven can pull in support from outside of the south.


May wealth always be just out of reach and discord always follow in thine own footsteps. -V



I don't think rooting SE/COVEN will be quite that simple, nor easy.
Or in anybodys real interest.

Vimple
Caldari
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2010.03.05 16:24:00 - [127]
 

Edited by: Vimple on 05/03/2010 17:06:34
Originally by: Faekurias
Originally by: Vimple
**Disclaimer** The below statment does not refelct upon my alliance/corporation. It is mine and mine alone. **Disclaimer**

Stainwagon will die due to the simple fact that SE jumped the gun without communicating with the rest of Stainwagon. SE has always had trouble staying on the same page with the rest of SW along the lines of who is blue to everyone else. Now they went and dropped the ball. Coven are following along out of loyalty. So the sides are drwan up LR, SC vs SE, Coven, and Stainless. IT will prob back there new pets. The question is will -A- and Atlas stand by and watch. If they both stay neut or back LR, SC then Stainwagon is absolutly dead. Unless of course SE/Coven can pull in support from outside of the south.


May wealth always be just out of reach and discord always follow in thine own footsteps. -V



I don't think rooting SE/COVEN will be quite that simple, nor easy.
Or in anybodys real interest.


Im not saying that it will be easy nor that Sys-K and LR can do it without IT. Just saying htat if IT does go to bat, that SE and Coven will need something more backing them up. To be perfectly clear I do not believe that Sys-K can defeat SE/Coven on there own even with LR. I just do not believe that IT will stand idle. Also LR is definately backing Sys-K they have reset standing to everyone that has had anything to do with SE/Coven. Oh and repeat Disclaimer from before. -V

Koronos
Minmatar
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.03.06 05:09:00 - [128]
 

Edited by: Koronos on 06/03/2010 05:17:32
Originally by: Vimple
SE has always had trouble staying on the same page with the rest of SW along the lines of who is blue to everyone else.


That's because
1) they have been there for 4 years longer than any of the rest,
2) they have been "against all authorities" long before anyone thought of making an alliance of that name, and
3) they are a lot better than anyone else around there. And that's really no disrespect to anyone else.

so basically they don't, and have never, give a fock about what you, I, or anyone else thinks except maybe to the extent that if you disrespect them you are probably going to get owned.

Edit1: when I refer to SE I mean XB
Edit2: on 3) I'm referring to alliances, not trying to get into a conversation about small superelite organizations vs. XB.

Cacador Especiais1
Amarr
Ore Mongers
Black Hand.
Posted - 2010.03.06 05:55:00 - [129]
 

brick squad has allied se/c0ven...and will be mass recruiting noobie pilots that fly rifters only...like 900 of those guys. all us pro carebears need to do is ice mine for all titan bridging fuel needed. After such operation is taken care of we shall send these brave brick-jihadists to se/c0ven staging area. We then kick all 900 of these brave souls out of alliance and let the rifters go ape-$h!+ on each other. then bridge in salvagers and viators. sys-k will be so stunned by such endeavours they'll blue our new coalition to get in on teh show. We'll all be one big happy family.Crying or Very sad

McFly
Caldari
Peanut Factory
Good Sax
Posted - 2010.03.06 09:42:00 - [130]
 

You gotta love actually having to look at the map before you start moving around. With all the fighting going on Stain and Esoteria are all lit up with fun time. Props to SE/Coven for stirring the pot and keeping the area interesting.

Hopefully the outside powerblocs will leave Stain, Esoteria, and Paragon Soul to itself. Looking forward to the days ahead.

Yoji Kio
Minmatar
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2010.03.06 21:06:00 - [131]
 

Sooooo..... This is all (or in great part) because we stayed (mostly)neutral when two allies started shooting each other? I may be new to this game but isn't Not picking a side the right thing to do?

On the other side, i learned a lot running bomber and roaming gangs against Goons with Goven/SE, and i really am looking forward to a nice even fight. Even if we are worse then them (and we are not that bad) it will at least whip us into shape and battle harden us :)

So i hope this will be nice and we can all still be friends afterwards.

Kushmir
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.03.06 21:23:00 - [132]
 

Originally by: Yoji Kio

On the other side, i learned a lot running bomber and roaming gangs against Goons



You guys learned how to not bomb yourselves? I'm impressed.

The Starburst formation depicted in this video should help you immensely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMMlwB0kltQ

Cool

Liu Bu
Gallente
Abyssal Heavy Industries
Narwhals Ate My Duck
Posted - 2010.03.06 21:49:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Kushmir

The Starburst formation depicted in this video should help you immensely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMMlwB0kltQ

Cool


That was one epic movie,

But how can you facepalm all those nice switches at onse ?

Comy 1
Amarr
Ore Mongers
Indecisive Certainty
Posted - 2010.03.06 23:01:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: Kushmir
Originally by: Yoji Kio

On the other side, i learned a lot running bomber and roaming gangs against Goons



You guys learned how to not bomb yourselves? I'm impressed.

The Starburst formation depicted in this video should help you immensely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMMlwB0kltQ

Cool


I would be terrified if I encountered that NC force.

Koronos
Minmatar
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.03.07 04:14:00 - [135]
 

Originally by: Kushmir
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMMlwB0kltQCool


okay I dgaf - that is ****ing epic.

captain kikaz
Caldari
Debitum Naturae
Drop the Hammer
Posted - 2010.03.07 08:59:00 - [136]
 

i loled

IronGoldenEagle
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2010.03.08 00:23:00 - [137]
 

This whole conflict reminds me of IT and Atlas' constant remarks of "We are going to make 0 sec interesting again". Only by your diplomatic incompetence I guess. Other than that you've made your giant NAP of the south, glad C0ven and SE could shake things up a little.

Mighty Baz
Gallente
LOST IDEA
C0VEN
Posted - 2010.03.08 07:17:00 - [138]
 

Edited by: Mighty Baz on 08/03/2010 07:59:09
Shocked

RifterDrifter
Minmatar
La Blue Girl
KUGUTSUMEN.
Posted - 2010.03.08 08:44:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: IronGoldenEagle
This whole conflict reminds me of IT and Atlas' constant remarks of "We are going to make 0 sec interesting again". Only by your diplomatic incompetence I guess. Other than that you've made your giant NAP of the south, glad C0ven and SE could shake things up a little.


Nice try idiot, SE were the ones resetting the SC, not the other way around. Now go back to your alliance forum where you can all ensure yourselfes the South will never come up north and they would get bored soon anyway and you are totally safe and the NC can't be beaten anyways and who would take up your space when you get thrown out and lol SC are **** rite guys rite?

Kushmir
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.03.08 08:50:00 - [140]
 

Originally by: RifterDrifter
who would take up your space when you get thrown out
This is a legitimate question I haven't seen anyone answer.

RifterDrifter
Minmatar
La Blue Girl
KUGUTSUMEN.
Posted - 2010.03.08 08:53:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: Kushmir
Originally by: RifterDrifter
who would take up your space when you get thrown out
This is a legitimate question I haven't seen anyone answer.


Well that question is obsolete because the SC is to stoopid to ever take that space right?

Yoji Kio
Minmatar
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2010.03.08 11:39:00 - [142]
 

Originally by: RifterDrifter
Originally by: Kushmir
Originally by: RifterDrifter
who would take up your space when you get thrown out
This is a legitimate question I haven't seen anyone answer.


Well that question is obsolete because the SC is to stoopid to ever take that space right?


Take space ?? Man we have so f***ing much space after we took over Goontopia we donít even know what to do with it.

This conflict has nothing to do with systems as we all (coven and SE included) have more systems than we could ever need thanks to Goons bad credit rating.

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.03.08 12:14:00 - [143]
 

It's a good job that you're taking providence too then, so you can have even more napped regions.

DarthBumholio jnr
Caldari
Volatile Nature
Posted - 2010.03.10 11:09:00 - [144]
 

Well i may not Agree with how SE/Coven reset us after all they where the ones complaining that they where dying due lack of action so needed to do something to save themselves, but the last couple of weeks have been fun. I am the first too admit SE/Coven are good pvpers and the small scale battles prove this and their tactics have been excellent. Apart from ppl giving them easy kills when We do organise propers fleets against them and not just Blob fleets we do hold our own against them and they are constantly changing tactic's too counter us which is refreshing. So let the fun continue and ppl enjoy themselves.

IronGoldenEagle
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2010.03.11 02:12:00 - [145]
 

Originally by: RifterDrifter
Originally by: IronGoldenEagle
This whole conflict reminds me of IT and Atlas' constant remarks of "We are going to make 0 sec interesting again". Only by your diplomatic incompetence I guess. Other than that you've made your giant NAP of the south, glad C0ven and SE could shake things up a little.


Nice try idiot, SE were the ones resetting the SC, not the other way around. Now go back to your alliance forum where you can all ensure yourselfes the South will never come up north and they would get bored soon anyway and you are totally safe and the NC can't be beaten anyways and who would take up your space when you get thrown out and lol SC are **** rite guys rite?


Im not in an alliance silly. Get your facts straight. Also SE just wanted an NIP (non invasion pact fyi) and IT would not allow that. All I am saying is that IT and SC (inseperable really) just used their poropaganda to run around saying "ooo look at the giant napfest that makes up 3/4 ths of 0 sec" then wen and did a giant napfest that makes up 3/4ths of 0 sec. Get SC's balls out of your mouth.

Yoji Kio
Minmatar
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2010.03.11 03:16:00 - [146]
 

Edited by: Yoji Kio on 11/03/2010 03:17:43
Edited by: Yoji Kio on 11/03/2010 03:16:58
Originally by: IronGoldenEagle
Originally by: RifterDrifter
Originally by: IronGoldenEagle
This whole conflict reminds me of IT and Atlas' constant remarks of "We are going to make 0 sec interesting again". Only by your diplomatic incompetence I guess. Other than that you've made your giant NAP of the south, glad C0ven and SE could shake things up a little.





Im not in an alliance silly. Get your facts straight. Also SE just wanted an NIP (non invasion pact fyi) and IT would not allow that. All I am saying is that IT and SC (inseperable really) just used their poropaganda to run around saying "ooo look at the giant napfest that makes up 3/4 ths of 0 sec" then wen and did a giant napfest that makes up 3/4ths of 0 sec. Get SC's balls out of your mouth.




Eeeh So you are angry for IT not wanting to play by SE rules ?? Thatís like the ****s telling the Americans to play fair and only use breadsticks instead of guns. Seriously, SE wanted a war without the danger of being invaded and IT simple said; screw you kiddies go play somewhere else. Coven said, ok we will help you otherwise we die from boredom now goons left. And we were happy just mining ice belts empty.

IronGoldenEagle
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2010.03.11 07:08:00 - [147]
 

Originally by: Yoji Kio




Eeeh So you are angry for IT not wanting to play by SE rules ?? Thatís like the ****s telling the Americans to play fair and only use breadsticks instead of guns. Seriously, SE wanted a war without the danger of being invaded and IT simple said; screw you kiddies go play somewhere else. Coven said, ok we will help you otherwise we die from boredom now goons left. And we were happy just mining ice belts empty.


no, not angry, simply pointing out the contradictions in their statements before they retook Delve and now. Not that Im suprised or didn't say just that they would make a giant Napfest 3 months ago. Also yes, Eve is like WW2...


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