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Logitricky
Posted - 2010.02.28 08:57:00 - [1]
 

So guys, tell me if you have tried the Demo / beta of Bad Company? What do you like and dislike about the game? Or just tell me, what your first impression ?
Cheers Cool

Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
Posted - 2010.02.28 09:51:00 - [2]
 

I played the PC beta and enjoyed it, but there are some differences compared to the older BF games. BC2 is very much part of the new family of Battlefield, in the vein of Heroes and 1943 - streamlined. There is no going prone, there's a kill-cam whenever someone gets killed, little tactical/strategic detail and quite a lot of grinding to unlock stuff.

Still, I found it quite entertaining.

Red Thunder
WEPRA CORP
White Noise.
Posted - 2010.02.28 12:18:00 - [3]
 

I loved it, my only complaint is that the maps seem a bit smaller than bf2.

As for not having a prone option, I definietly prefer it, as with the high detail of the foliage its pretty damn hard to spot snipers while they are crouched, would be impossible if they could prone. Plus it means no dolphin diving :D

Creepy Goat
Collateral.
Posted - 2010.02.28 13:04:00 - [4]
 

Been playing the 360 demo a lot, and kinda annoyed me when i was spamming crouch for ages trying to go prone Sad But it is true that with prone, snipers would be completely impossible to find and kill.
I think one thing to point out that may get overlooked, is the atmosphere. The matches i've played actually felt like huge battles; rockets whizzing past your head, explosions throwing dirt and dust into the air and obviously the huge amount of destruction fueled by the Frostbite engine. It definitely feels like a battlefield.

Gear-wise, i don't see it as a massive grind to unlock new gear. If you play matches, you kill people, you heal people, you give ammo to people etc etc and these all give you (quite a lot) of xp towards the current class you are playing. I unlocked the available assault and recon upgrades in my first few matches without even realising.

IGN have a review up i think, but i don't pay much attention to them.

Mia Zheng
Caldari
Frozen Forge
Posted - 2010.02.28 13:31:00 - [5]
 

running around a building planting c4 on all sides. <3

Irida Mershkov
Gallente
The Reformed
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2010.02.28 14:22:00 - [6]
 

Options -> Sound -> Enable War Tapes.

Game of the year purely off that, I have no idea why it isn't automatically on, it boosts sound quality and background noise through the roof, so you can hear your guy breathing, clinking of equipment, footsteps, distant gunshots oh so much clearer.

Maps? These look great, plus we're getting two free ones at launch (regardless of platform), one of which is a Rush based at Night, and the other is a Dusk set Conquest. The maps look very varied compared to BC1 and the visuals, lighting effects, all look fantastic.

Guns work a lot better than BC1 too, with the "50 round mag weak weapons" gone, now weapons are better balanced, and kill a lot faster, taking into account bullet drop and bullet travel time and the game is just satisfying to play as. Plus with the new unlock system, which equates as playing as a class more gets you more stuff for that class, as opposed to unlocking stuff that you pick like last time. Also guns now get attachments, such as Red Dot Sights, ACOG scopes.

The specialisation stuff works very nicely too, with the first spec for that class being a sight/scope on your gun, the second being more focused around yourself, such as improved body armour etc, and the third being a vehicle upgrade, like reactive armour, smoke grenades, vehicle motion sensors etc, it all just adds to the game whilst retaining some good balance (based off the demo).

With the 'all kit' weapons too, this makes kits quite varied, such as playing Recon with a G3 as opposed to a sniper rifle, suddenly it becomes a siege kit with a mortar strike, motion sensor and the assault rifle, and works pretty damn well.

Sound is kick ass as mentioned. Destruction 2.0 is also very handy, can't quite clear out a building to arm an MCOM in Rush? Take out the supports and watch it crumble inwards, quite alarming when it happens if you're inside, as if you're not out within three seconds, you dead *****, you dead.

Game modes are Rush (Attackers and Defenders, one team pushing to take several bases, one at a time, each base having two objectives which have to be destroyed), Conquest (Essentially taking bases and holding them down, this is the classic Battlefield game type), Squad Rush (4v4 version of Rush, with just one base I think), and Squad Deathmatch (4v4v4v4 in a first to 50 kills mode).

Originally by: Red Thunder
I loved it, my only complaint is that the maps seem a bit smaller than bf2.

As for not having a prone option, I definietly prefer it, as with the high detail of the foliage its pretty damn hard to spot snipers while they are crouched, would be impossible if they could prone. Plus it means no dolphin diving :D

This is because the Rush maps are tailored towards gradual assaults, and the Conquest maps are better smaller as they tie up the combat more, which was a problem in BC1, you spent half the time running around looking for someone to kill for combat to end in a few seconds, which sucked. But the new maps also look pretty damn good, from looking at the ultimateprestige.com website, they're shaping up to be sweet.

Thank god prone is gone too, Snipers are annoying enough as it is, and Spotting is VERY useful.

IGNs review is focused mostly on the singleplayer too.
Also you all must watch this, it's pretty funny regardless.

Creepy Goat
Collateral.
Posted - 2010.02.28 14:38:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Irida Mershkov

Also you all must watch this, it's pretty funny regardless.



That video was funny as hell, and so true too. Every match i've played so far has been full of MW2 'solopwnmobile' ***gots who chew through tickets like skittles, drive the tank right into the middle of the enemy base and get it insta-popped, please please please tag enemies -_- No one listens to you on teamspeak either Sad

MooKids
Caldari
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.02.28 15:08:00 - [8]
 

Aside from the typical idiots I saw in the demo, (Why the hell are you driving into their base with the AA tank while they have an Apache pounding us!?!) it seems pretty good. A toggle crouch button would be nice, but I can adapt. The lack of airplanes is nice, don't have to keep switching to my joystick, or having to worry about someone flying a MiG like a WWII dive bomber.

I do wish that the radial menu was still in, like in the old BF games, but I can manage.

Otherwise, looks to be a pretty decent game, with DEDICATED SERVERS!

Irida Mershkov
Gallente
The Reformed
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2010.02.28 16:26:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Creepy Goat
Originally by: Irida Mershkov

Also you all must watch this, it's pretty funny regardless.



That video was funny as hell, and so true too. Every match i've played so far has been full of MW2 'solopwnmobile' ***gots who chew through tickets like skittles, drive the tank right into the middle of the enemy base and get it insta-popped, please please please tag enemies -_- No one listens to you on teamspeak either Sad

The worst offenders are squad members (if you're not playing with friends, usually I am so this is not an issue) whom don't do their squad functions. A Medic won't heal me, an Assault won't give me ammo, or the Recon players are just ******ed, not defusing objectives so they can get their 1337h4x k/d of 3/12.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2010.02.28 17:41:00 - [10]
 

So if you are a huge fan of cod4 is this the mw2 we are looking for?

Iva Posavec
Takhar Matari Militia
Posted - 2010.02.28 17:54:00 - [11]
 

Played the demo on the PS3 and couldn't put it down, it's loads of fun. The battles feel intense and some things have been added which make it even better than the original Bad Company, like the UAV that you can control which is a great tool for getting an accurate picture of the battlefield and the fact that you can fire missiles from it. I think they have also changed armored combat as tanks feel much more vulnerable than before.

Will certainly be buying it although I'll have to wait as I have been buying too many games lately and have a few that I am still wanting like Hard Rain.

Irida Mershkov
Gallente
The Reformed
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2010.02.28 18:53:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 28/02/2010 18:55:07
Originally by: Zeba
So if you are a huge fan of cod4 is this the mw2 we are looking for?

Yes and No. Watch the video above, it's teamwork based, being a good player just doesn't cut it for Bad Company 2, you need to function as a good team mate, and honestly, you get more points for reviving team mates/repairing etc than you do for killing. The closest thing similarity wise to MW2 is that it's modern-based, and is a FPS.

If you're more of a "check out my leet sniping skills" sort of fellow, you'll be on the losing team, a lot. If not, this is definitely the game for you. Go download the demo (for consoles) or beta for the PC. The game is pretty much the same on both platforms but the PC has a server browser, slightly higher player count, and a better squad menu system. You also have to remember that the game does feature as mentioned, bullet travel and bullet drop times and distances.

Edit: I can't lay out sentences or paragraphs for ****, hopefully it's clear to understand though, watch the video I posted above.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2010.02.28 19:19:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 28/02/2010 18:55:07
Originally by: Zeba
So if you are a huge fan of cod4 is this the mw2 we are looking for?

Yes and No. Watch the video above, it's teamwork based, being a good player just doesn't cut it for Bad Company 2, you need to function as a good team mate, and honestly, you get more points for reviving team mates/repairing etc than you do for killing. The closest thing similarity wise to MW2 is that it's modern-based, and is a FPS.

If you're more of a "check out my leet sniping skills" sort of fellow, you'll be on the losing team, a lot. If not, this is definitely the game for you. Go download the demo (for consoles) or beta for the PC. The game is pretty much the same on both platforms but the PC has a server browser, slightly higher player count, and a better squad menu system. You also have to remember that the game does feature as mentioned, bullet travel and bullet drop times and distances.

Edit: I can't lay out sentences or paragraphs for ****, hopefully it's clear to understand though, watch the video I posted above.
I used to play rtcw which was almost exactly the same on class cooperation as you had medics and ammo givers etc etc and even ran my own server for years. But yeah this sounds like just the thing as I need a new quality pc infantry shooter badly.Sad So off to try the beta. Very Happy

Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2010.02.28 19:34:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 28/02/2010 18:55:07
Originally by: Zeba
So if you are a huge fan of cod4 is this the mw2 we are looking for?

Yes and No. Watch the video above, it's teamwork based, being a good player just doesn't cut it for Bad Company 2, you need to function as a good team mate, and honestly, you get more points for reviving team mates/repairing etc than you do for killing. The closest thing similarity wise to MW2 is that it's modern-based, and is a FPS.

If you're more of a "check out my leet sniping skills" sort of fellow, you'll be on the losing team, a lot. If not, this is definitely the game for you. Go download the demo (for consoles) or beta for the PC. The game is pretty much the same on both platforms but the PC has a server browser, slightly higher player count, and a better squad menu system. You also have to remember that the game does feature as mentioned, bullet travel and bullet drop times and distances.

Edit: I can't lay out sentences or paragraphs for ****, hopefully it's clear to understand though, watch the video I posted above.
I used to play rtcw which was almost exactly the same on class cooperation as you had medics and ammo givers etc etc and even ran my own server for years. But yeah this sounds like just the thing as I need a new quality pc infantry shooter badly.Sad So off to try the beta. Very Happy


Beta is down until release I heard.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2010.02.28 19:57:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest
Beta is down until release I heard.
Yup, and the ps3 demo has apparently been pulled from the store too. Ah well the video made it seem just like the type of game I want to play so now it will be down to choosing the ps3 or pc version. And after the stunt they pulled on pc players with mw2 I'll definitely wait till after release to buy it. Might even be arsed to pay full retail which burns my cheap arse soul. Razz

Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2010.02.28 20:06:00 - [16]
 

It's not infinity ward though :( Get it on PC to play with me, I already pre-ordered it.

Irida Mershkov
Gallente
The Reformed
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2010.02.28 22:29:00 - [17]
 

It's a DICE game, so quality guaranteed, but it'll be a bit of a rough launch, Battlefield games always are, although hopefully it'll be playable this time as usually what tends to happen is Battlefield games get overloaded at launch and can't be played for the first few hours, bit like EVE really at expansion launch.

And yeah, Zeba, check out some of the gameplay vids and demo/tutorials by DICE, It's a high quality shooter though and the Battlefield series have always been my personal favourite, I played BC1 to death.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2010.02.28 23:19:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest
It's not infinity ward though :( Get it on PC to play with me, I already pre-ordered it.
Originally by: Irida Mershkov
It's a DICE game, so quality guaranteed, but it'll be a bit of a rough launch, Battlefield games always are, although hopefully it'll be playable this time as usually what tends to happen is Battlefield games get overloaded at launch and can't be played for the first few hours, bit like EVE really at expansion launch.

And yeah, Zeba, check out some of the gameplay vids and demo/tutorials by DICE, It's a high quality shooter though and the Battlefield series have always been my personal favourite, I played BC1 to death.
Well its good to hear that you guys think DICE won't roll over its playerbase so I will probably go ahead and get it on launch as the vids and such so far have been really convincing. However I believe I'll get the ps3 version as I really need to get in shape with a controller as I plan to be in on the ground floor of Dust. Besides with its obvious focus on combined arms gameplay and teamwork it will get me right back on track for competative dust play that I left after rtcw died off. Twisted Evil

Irida Mershkov
Gallente
The Reformed
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2010.02.28 23:32:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 28/02/2010 23:33:26
You need to get it for 360 bro. Sad My buddies for the most part don't have PCs to handle Bc2 (I only just upgraded mine to be capable) and Battlefield is a game I'd always reccomend with friends, it's just that much better, so console version is fine with me. The only differences in the PC version are the server browser, integrated friends list, and a slightly higher player cap, which I didn't think was needed personally, but eh.

Oh, and if anyone is willing, anyone fancy posting up Gamertags or PSN names for some games? I've already had a few good games with LordSwift on the demo which were great fun.

Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
Posted - 2010.03.01 02:52:00 - [20]
 

If I want realism I guess i'll stick to Project Reality for BF2 which has prone and controllable UAV's and larger maps.
Plus Insurgency game mode.

Maybe the PR team will do something with BC2 but I doubt it.

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.03.01 03:05:00 - [21]
 

Really looking forward to this game... Even installed BF2 again while the beta is down.

4 more days >_<

Epegi Givo
Amarr
Department of Redundancy Dpt.
Posted - 2010.03.01 03:27:00 - [22]
 

I Pre-ordered PC and got into beta, and it is simply epic. Fully destructible environment is simply awesome.

I have played MW2 xbox and a bit of MW1 xbox so that is what I will be comparing to.

There are no stupidly cheap things like the noob-tube or super-knifing. And guns aren't nearly as accurate, so you won't be head-shotting people across the map with a rifle. And sniping is a lot better. Snipers are more precise-killing one guy than mowing down everything within sight of you. And, there are vehicles.

And there are more team-oriented classes. The most team-work you would get out of MW2 is calling in a UAV to help allies or letting an ally take your care package. While in BC2 you can get ammo from allies, you can revive/heal them, you can repair their stuff, and you can spawn at squad members, and you can tag enemies to let allies know where they are.

Solo-pwnmobile style playing is near impossible. One main reason is that people have way more health, approx. 11 shots per person. You usually have to reload after each kill, or 2 if the enemies are right next to each other. So if you surprise a squad and manage to kill a guy, the rest will just own you right after, if they don't kill you before you kill their buddy.

I haven't touched MW2 since getting into this game.

The only thing I really didn't like about it was how you could C4 objectives to destroy them instantly, and they are removing that in the actual game so it is OK.

Ella C'Tronix
Posted - 2010.03.01 04:31:00 - [23]
 

One of the game sites is giving away the pre-order bonus item codes to unlock extra guns and stuff for signing up to their newsletter - link

MooKids
Caldari
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.03.01 05:13:00 - [24]
 

The problem with buying it on a console, is that eventually EA will pull the plug for online gaming, as they just did with BF2 Modern Combat. With a PC version, all you need to do is connect through a login server, which I doubt EA will shutdown, and from there, connect to a privately run dedicated server, which can go on for years.

Buxaroo
Gallente
The Army of The Ori
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
Posted - 2010.03.01 07:42:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: MooKids
The problem with buying it on a console, is that eventually EA will pull the plug for online gaming, as they just did with BF2 Modern Combat. With a PC version, all you need to do is connect through a login server, which I doubt EA will shutdown, and from there, connect to a privately run dedicated server, which can go on for years.


One of the reasons why PC gaming will always be superior in every way to consoles. Not to mention the keyboard and mouse for controlling things. And better resolution. And graphics. And longevity.....hell I could keep going Smile

Irida Mershkov
Gallente
The Reformed
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2010.03.01 08:46:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Epegi Givo
The only thing I really didn't like about it was how you could C4 objectives to destroy them instantly, and they are removing that in the actual game so it is OK.

They're increasing the amount somewhat in the retail version, and Engineers can also repair MCOMs I believe.

Also as you mentioned with accuracy, you should never full-auto your guns when out of point-blank range, as the cone of accuracy goes mental when you hold down the trigger and bullets quite literally go everywhere so you'll end up just giving yourself away and missing your intended target.

Originally by: MooKids
The problem with buying it on a console, is that eventually EA will pull the plug for online gaming, as they just did with BF2 Modern Combat. With a PC version, all you need to do is connect through a login server, which I doubt EA will shutdown, and from there, connect to a privately run dedicated server, which can go on for years.

Got a good couple of years before anyone has to worry about that, and then the PC version will be around 5.

Originally by: Ella C'Tronix
One of the game sites is giving away the pre-order bonus item codes to unlock extra guns and stuff for signing up to their newsletter - link

You forgot your link.

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
Posted - 2010.03.01 13:28:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Epegi Givo
Solo-pwnmobile style playing is near impossible. One main reason is that people have way more health, approx. 11 shots per person. You usually have to reload after each kill, or 2 if the enemies are right next to each other. So if you surprise a squad and manage to kill a guy, the rest will just own you right after, if they don't kill you before you kill their buddy.



Lame. Thank you for saving me from wasting my money on this awful game.


Hint to the BF:BC developers: hardcore mode was the only thing that made COD4 playable. Please join the 21st century and stop including bad counterstrike mechanics like taking a dozen chest shots from a rifle to kill anything.

Ella C'Tronix
Posted - 2010.03.01 13:59:00 - [28]
 

I have MAG.
I do not need BC2.

The end.


Irida Mershkov
Gallente
The Reformed
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2010.03.01 16:09:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 01/03/2010 16:12:57
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Epegi Givo
Solo-pwnmobile style playing is near impossible. One main reason is that people have way more health, approx. 11 shots per person. You usually have to reload after each kill, or 2 if the enemies are right next to each other. So if you surprise a squad and manage to kill a guy, the rest will just own you right after, if they don't kill you before you kill their buddy.



Lame. Thank you for saving me from wasting my money on this awful game.


Hint to the BF:BC developers: hardcore mode was the only thing that made COD4 playable. Please join the 21st century and stop including bad counterstrike mechanics like taking a dozen chest shots from a rifle to kill anything.

Don't think you'd be wanted on a team so not really missing much. There is a hardcore mode though.

Creepy Goat
Collateral.
Posted - 2010.03.01 17:32:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Lame. Thank you for saving me from wasting my money on this awful game.


Hint to the BF:BC developers: hardcore mode was the only thing that made COD4 playable. Please join the 21st century and stop including bad counterstrike mechanics like taking a dozen chest shots from a rifle to kill anything.


I found COD to be the WoW of FPS's, so err, GB2W Wink

BF:BC2 actually requires you to engage your brain if you want to win, teamwork and strategy succeeds where as 'solopwnmobiles' will end up falling flat on their face.


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