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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.27 21:40:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Ai Mei
In before the lock


This thread already exists here.

Goons attack startrek online.
Check the times on the threads. This one was here first Laughing


In before foot in mouth Razz

Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2010.02.27 22:25:00 - [32]
 

I've been playing STO for maybe 2-3 days now and I'm Lieutenant (I can never spell that rank out without spellchecker help) 5 and I've been doing mostly deep space missions + Defended Starbase 24 a few times. And what I can say is that most of the worlds and the bits of space (especially in the deep space sector) seem basically randomized / copy-pasted. A lot of the missions are predictable, IE:

1. Fly to planet, give planet supplies
2. Approach suspicious ship, get attacked instead and kill them
3. Scan missing ships
4. Defend miners from pirate attacks (Both escorting and just plain killing)
5. Retrieve missing probe pieces (This is funny because you can basically go "Oh, the piece is over here, see how the map is shaped to where these areas have more room than the narrow pathway to them? Also see those enemies? Ya, no mystery)
6. Defend against waves of Klingon

But even for the repetitiveness the game is really fun, I'm not a huge star trek buff.. you can say I know next to nothing, and coming into the game I just get the sense of "oh hey, this is cool, I'm flying a ship like the one on the show, firing lasers and stuff." I get a thrill out of watching fire fights between many ships exciting while viewing 1vSeveral I find really boring (usually missions).

I also love the customization of the game, customize your character, your crew, your ship. I've seen some amazing looking ships so far in the game.

But out of all this I can say that I won't become a subscriber. The missions seem copy and paste, there is no purpose for half the stuff you are doing. You can't enter PvP right away or there is nothing super interesting to keep you occupied until you get into PvP (unlike in eve you can spend the time learning the mechanics and doing a bunch of carebare stuff until you feel ready to PvP). The areas themselves, with the exception of a few instances, seem extremely bland, and really small. When I'm playing Eve Online I look around myself and I go, "That Planet is REALLY far away, and I can basically go anywhere I want, everything is so massive and there are no boundries." While in STO I would use this map which is cool for awhile but gets boring, and then each area is instanced so you never see any sort of scale of the solar system, makes solar systems seem like single rooms while the universe seems to be able to be traversed without much care. And even the backgrounds to the space areas in the system makes it look like it's obviously fake instead of much larger.

I'm playing this on a 10 day guest pass, and it's fun for awhile, I wouldn't recommend buying it, or at least paying for more than 3 months.

Culmen
Caldari
Culmenation
Posted - 2010.02.27 23:32:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Chock
Just so you know, my report went fine. Specifically, when you (or whoever it was) searched for information outside of this website for info on the name 'Chock' and found some info relating to that elsewhere with the intent of posting it on this forum for malicious intent, and chose to use it on this thread, thereby making it possible to identify me against my express wishes when registering on this forum, you not only transgressed the rules of this forum, whereby as long as more than ten days has passed between me making the selection on my registry to not disclose personal information, then it is an offence. But more importantly, (for you and anyone else who participated in that act), you were in breach of the 'CONTROLLING THE ASSAULT OF NON-SOLICITED ****OGRAPHY AND MARKETING ACT OF 2003', which I found out whilst reporting your actions to the Federal Bureau of Investigations in the US, via their IC3 reporting protocol. This means I have instigated a criminal investigation against you and all your friends (told you I wasn't joking). You might be interested to know that a breach, if proven (which will not hard to do, since I forwarded the URL for this thread on my report to the FBI) carries a maximum five year prison sentence, a fine of up to one million Dollars (not excluding any personal damages I might choose to pursue for breach of privacy, which it was by definition of the forum registration rules), and all your equipment used to commit the act (i.e your computer and modem etc) can also be confiscated, not that big a deal in comparison to being fined a million bucks, but there you go. You can also be the subject of an order preventing you from using a computer for a period of time, if found to have broken that law, which I can assure you, you did. If you don't believe me, feel free to read up on that law, and you will see that your actions transgressed several sections of it, which by virtue of this being a forum for a company based in California, is a criminal act. And if you still don't really believe that I reported your actions, here is the FBI complaint ID number: I1002250221319062 Have fun with your criminal record. Al


OH NOES!
Chock just called the internet police on the goons!
Pg 104 of threadnought

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.28 00:00:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Culmen
Originally by: Chock
Just so you know, my report went fine. Specifically, when you (or whoever it was) searched for information outside of this website for info on the name 'Chock' and found some info relating to that elsewhere with the intent of posting it on this forum for malicious intent, and chose to use it on this thread, thereby making it possible to identify me against my express wishes when registering on this forum, you not only transgressed the rules of this forum, whereby as long as more than ten days has passed between me making the selection on my registry to not disclose personal information, then it is an offence. But more importantly, (for you and anyone else who participated in that act), you were in breach of the 'CONTROLLING THE ASSAULT OF NON-SOLICITED ****OGRAPHY AND MARKETING ACT OF 2003', which I found out whilst reporting your actions to the Federal Bureau of Investigations in the US, via their IC3 reporting protocol. This means I have instigated a criminal investigation against you and all your friends (told you I wasn't joking). You might be interested to know that a breach, if proven (which will not hard to do, since I forwarded the URL for this thread on my report to the FBI) carries a maximum five year prison sentence, a fine of up to one million Dollars (not excluding any personal damages I might choose to pursue for breach of privacy, which it was by definition of the forum registration rules), and all your equipment used to commit the act (i.e your computer and modem etc) can also be confiscated, not that big a deal in comparison to being fined a million bucks, but there you go. You can also be the subject of an order preventing you from using a computer for a period of time, if found to have broken that law, which I can assure you, you did. If you don't believe me, feel free to read up on that law, and you will see that your actions transgressed several sections of it, which by virtue of this being a forum for a company based in California, is a criminal act. And if you still don't really believe that I reported your actions, here is the FBI complaint ID number: I1002250221319062 Have fun with your criminal record. Al


OH NOES!
Chock just called the internet police on the goons!
Pg 104 of threadnought


the goons are done for!!! they violated a really big clause!

Originally by: sto forum

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharrow View Post
This is amazing.

Btw, can you tell us what part of the CAN-SPAM act was actually breached? I'm curious.

(Another poster)
rule 105 subsection 47, "do not make fun of pseudointellectual forum nerds"

Brechan Skene
Posted - 2010.02.28 00:50:00 - [35]
 

To Goons,

Have you been raided by the FBI yet?

Brechan

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.02.28 01:38:00 - [36]
 

Oh man that is priceless.

Not quite as good as Liz Kali, but still p. good.

VicturusTeSaluto
Gallente
Metafarmers
MeatSausage EXPRESS
Posted - 2010.02.28 01:57:00 - [37]
 

That thread is made of win. Almost makes me want to buy that terrible game.

I played the beta for a few hours and that was more than enough.

Wuff Wuff
The Oliver Postgate Appreciation Club
Posted - 2010.02.28 02:03:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Tighclops
Originally by: Chuck
Actually, I think a lot of people have missed the point here, which is a tricky legal one. So here it is in relatively easy to follow terms...

It is a breach of personal privacy covered by that Act when has someone stalked for information with the express intent of publishing it maliciously via third party commercial internet source (the important point here is 'commercial'). For the purposes of the act, 'maliciously' includes the means to obtain an email address or other personal details that can lead to that information, if it is done so without the person's express permission to do so at that source. This is the thing which makes it a criminal act. It is true that this happens fairly often and people rarely act upon it because they are often unaware it actually is something the law protects them from, and ordinarily people are not seeking to post information of that nature on forums with any malicious intent, but that does not alter the fact that it is a breach of that particular law, and anyone has a right to pursue such action given that this is the case. With me so far? Good.

Now, because that information can still be retrieved via the clues to my identity which have been published against my will on this forum thread, this makes Cryptic, who own this website, complicit in the act by virtue of the fact that it is a commercial site, albeit unwittingly. However, since I registered a complaint about this state of affairs to them a few days ago, and the information is still on this thread, they are still breaching that law in hosting information which can provide personal details about me against that person's wishes (this is the bit the law covers), and continue to do so every time one of these people repeats that comment, further incriminating themselves in the process. You will doubtless recall I mentioned that there were some clever people involved, but I also pointed out that they would attract their fair share of not very clever people too, which is a case in point in that instance.

So, not only are the people who sought and publicised that information in breach of the Act designed to protect an individual's privacy because they placed it on a commercial site, but unless Cryptic address the issue, they are also complicit unless they distance themselves from the action, or even more likely, choose to point out who is responsible.

Now, since Cryptic are in California, which the last time I checked, had not fallen into the sea, and is therefore part of the United States. Therefore, Cryptic is under the jurisdiction of matters the FBI can pursue, if their actions, or actions which they make possible contravene the aforementioned law, which means Cryptic risk being embroiled in my complaint if they don't do that, since I chose the option to remain anonymous when registering on this forum. And so, this is why I addressed my complaint to the FBI.

Thus, if this forum continues to offers a means to transmit that information against my wishes, it is aiding in the breach of that law which is in place to protect my private details from being sought by means of a commercial website if I have not granted permission for that to be done, which I haven't. This by the way, is watertight, since the website the information was obtained from is also in the US and also covered by that law, which means I too am covered by that law when I make a complaint. You see? Isn't all this FBI stuff exciting?

...bla bla bla bla bla bla bla...


This

This is how you spend your time

Al


BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH! Laughing

-Wuffles

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.28 02:18:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Oh man that is priceless.

Not quite as good as Liz Kali, but still p. good.


No thread is as good or will ever be better than the Liz Kali thread Laughing

AdmiralJohn
Gallente
Origin of Sanshaa
Posted - 2010.02.28 02:48:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Some STO Guy
I understand tricky legal situations and this isn't one of them. You're trying to apply an anti-SPAM law to people finding old pictures that you yourself have put on line. I know you fancy yourself a clever internet lawyer, but you're not, and I'm a real lawyer. And I am telling you that you are wrong and you'll continue to be wrong no matter how many words you type trying to tell those of us who deal with these things day in and day out that we don't understand these "tricky" concepts.

Later...
Originally by: The Same Guy
Apparently we're not the only ones who need things simplified around here.
1. ME LAWYER
2. YOU NOT
3. ME RIGHT
4. YOU WRONG

I laughed like you would not believe at this.

Noun Verber
Gallente
Posted - 2010.02.28 09:57:00 - [41]
 

What's the tl;dr for that Chock guy?

Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.02.28 11:25:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest
seem basically randomized / copy-pasted. A lot of the missions are predictable, IE:

1. Fly to planet, give planet supplies
2. Approach suspicious ship, get attacked instead and kill them
3. Scan missing ships
4. Defend miners from pirate attacks (Both escorting and just plain killing)
5. Retrieve missing probe pieces (This is funny because you can basically go "Oh, the piece is over here, see how the map is shaped to where these areas have more room than the narrow pathway to them? Also see those enemies? Ya, no mystery)
6. Defend against waves of Klingon



You should try EVE-PvE.

1. Warp to random location, kill red plus-signs.
2. Goto 1

Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.02.28 11:44:00 - [43]
 

how funkin pathetic, all of it.

Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
Posted - 2010.02.28 14:36:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Xen Gin on 28/02/2010 14:36:48
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest
seem basically randomized / copy-pasted. A lot of the missions are predictable, IE:

1. Fly to planet, give planet supplies
2. Approach suspicious ship, get attacked instead and kill them
3. Scan missing ships
4. Defend miners from pirate attacks (Both escorting and just plain killing)
5. Retrieve missing probe pieces (This is funny because you can basically go "Oh, the piece is over here, see how the map is shaped to where these areas have more room than the narrow pathway to them? Also see those enemies? Ya, no mystery)
6. Defend against waves of Klingon



You should try EVE-PvE.

1. Warp to random location, kill red plus-signs.
2. Goto 1


Whoa, that's not all there is, there's also:

"Pick up item at station A, and move it to Station B"

then there's the

"Go to random location in random adjacent solar system, kill red plus-signs, go back to original station, go back to another random location in a random solar system that isn't the previous solar system but is supposed to be the same complex as last time, either kill red-pluses or pick something up, repeat as need 2-3 more times."

Mr Greh
Jacob Boner Incorporated
Posted - 2010.02.28 14:39:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Serge Bastana
Edited by: Serge Bastana on 26/02/2010 00:52:36
Just perusing the STO forum after reading some of the hilarious whine threads linked in other posts and found this gem. Essentially Starfleet Dental (Goons) decided to liven things up a bit and after blowing up some ships over Earth, invited some Klingon players to their 'Bridge of Death' where they repeatedly shot them.

This is the resulting threadnaught. Some of the pubescent ranting about having the Goonies banned is pricelss. I'm still wondering if some of them are Goon alts playing to the crowd or if they're real, but it just shows how bubblewrapped these guys are if this is what they consider griefing.

Plus: what's all the press ups and dancing stuff, it just looks quite wrong Very Happy


Jesus! That threadnaught grew 50 pages in a 24h period! Twisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilShockedShockedShockedLaughingYARRRR!!LaughingYARRRR!!LaughingYARRRR!!

Serge Bastana
Gallente
GWA Corp
Posted - 2010.02.28 16:07:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Ai Mei
In before the lock


This thread already exists here.

Goons attack startrek online.


If there had already been a thread about this in OOPE, I wouldn't have started a new one, since EVE players would already have been gaining amusement at the impotent nerd rage exhibited in the threadnaught that still seems to be boiling. And that Chock guy really needs to release some tension, probably in the form of a Gentleman's Wrist Adventure.

Culmen
Caldari
Culmenation
Posted - 2010.02.28 16:37:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Ai Mei
In before the lock


This thread already exists here.

Goons attack startrek online.
Check the times on the threads. This one was here first Laughing


Yep he beats them by 18 hours
But theres enough epic STO fail to go around.

In other news Episode 3 is out.

AdmiralJohn
Gallente
Origin of Sanshaa
Posted - 2010.02.28 16:55:00 - [48]
 

Hey guys be nice, Chock really doesn't care about this at all, just look at the essay he wrote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chock I'll tell you why people are upset about it. It is because what we are dealing with here is some seriously mentally disturbed people. Don't think so? Allow me to summarise: If you heard a tale about someone who deliberately behaved in an antisocial manner, who then posted videos online gloating about it, who then hunted down info on someone who had complained about it and posted that information publicly against their wishes, as well as handing the information out to others of a similar ilk, so they could do the same. Then, continued the tirade by getting hold of a photograph of the person and defacing that too (also an illegal act), whilst sending threatening messages to that person too. And all this from the comfortably-imagined safety of hiding behind the distance and anonymity of the internet. Would you regard this as the behaviour of a normal, well adjusted social group? A group you wanted to be a part of an activity you enjoy and have paid to take part in? Moreover, would you be at all surprised if someone then complained about it to the authorities if they had been targeted in such a way? These people are a menace, plain and simple, and if any one of them had to endure what they delight in dishing out, they'd be crying like a baby in seconds, because they have no guts at all, and prefer to combine in a sad little group to bolster their failed bravado, so they can pick on other people and spoil the fun of those who simply want to enjoy an online video game. But you won't find me crying, what you will find is me doing my best to stop this kind of thing from continuing, and it is a measure of how gutless these people are that in observing someone stand up against them , they are doing there best to stop me, by descending further into their childish pack mentality which centres around rather uninventive attempts to insult me. Their attempts have not worked, despite this going on for well over 100 pages. So unfortunately for them, the best they can muster is a long way from being good enough. Even so, you can fully expect another round of childish taunts, stupid and defamatory behaviour to follow this post, which will only serve to emphasise the point even further. They are nothing if not predictable, and if I choose not to be bothered by their limited arsenal, then it is a demonstration of how truly powerless they really are when people stand up to them. You will find this to be the case with all people who behave like bullies, whether in the playground, or any other walk of life. They are, as we know, quite evidently cowards. The fact that it is a video game at the heart of the matter is relevant, but what is more relevant, is that people like this, who think it is okay to indulge in this kind of behaviour, and band together to do it because they are cowards, have quite ably demonstrated that they have some serious social issues along with a serious lack of any moral fibre, and that is why they should be prevented from doing this kind of thing. We can stand by and let this kind of thing happen, or we can choose to do something about it. We already know how gutless the people are who group together and indulge in this sort of activity are, and we know that they don't care about rules in STO's EULA, or rules of this forum, or indeed the law. You can be a mindless and cowardly sheep and follow this crowd, or you can stand by and let it happen, or, you can demonstrate that you have a pair, and choose to do something about it. And make no mistake, if you actually like playing the video game that this centers around, then you ought to be prepared to do something to stop it from descending into becoming the plaything of childish, cowardly, social cripples. You can change the game and make it better by driving off these people, but you'll have to stand up for what you want and have broad enough shoulder

AdmiralJohn
Gallente
Origin of Sanshaa
Posted - 2010.02.28 16:57:00 - [49]
 

Well sorry guys on that last post, apparently Eve forums don't support that kind of QQ. Here's the link:
Massive Crybaby

Wuff Wuff
The Oliver Postgate Appreciation Club
Posted - 2010.02.28 17:03:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Noun Verber
What's the tl;dr for that Chock guy?


Chock - "How dare you Goons find my details from other internetz sites where I used the same real-life photo of myself and same alias and then post those details on here!!!one111!!! I have e-mailed the FBI, who according to my 78 page written interpretation of Spam laws, will be giving you a 5 year prison sentence in the post. LOLOLOLOL!

Real-life Lawyer - "STFU dude. You know sh*t."

- Wuffles

Serge Bastana
Gallente
GWA Corp
Posted - 2010.02.28 17:13:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: AdmiralJohn
Well sorry guys on that last post, apparently Eve forums don't support that kind of QQ. Here's the link:
Massive Crybaby




See, even the EVE-O forum thinks Choc's pretentious whining is too much Very Happy

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2010.02.28 17:34:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest
seem basically randomized / copy-pasted. A lot of the missions are predictable, IE:

1. Fly to planet, give planet supplies
2. Approach suspicious ship, get attacked instead and kill them
3. Scan missing ships
4. Defend miners from pirate attacks (Both escorting and just plain killing)
5. Retrieve missing probe pieces (This is funny because you can basically go "Oh, the piece is over here, see how the map is shaped to where these areas have more room than the narrow pathway to them? Also see those enemies? Ya, no mystery)
6. Defend against waves of Klingon



You should try EVE-PvE.

1. Warp to random location, kill red plus-signs.
2. Goto 1

The point that you're missing is that PvE is STO's main attraction.


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