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Xiaodown
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
Posted - 2010.02.17 21:48:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Metal Dude
Edited by: Metal Dude on 17/02/2010 14:46:39

Originally by: Viper ShizzIe

Everything to come, you brought on yourself.



Sorry, this is weak. No theft, no disbanding of the alliance, no one got Hurlyed, no logs revealing PL’s dirty laundry. What’s this ‘Everything to come”? What are you going to do? Shoot him?


Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

The other issue behind all of this is that viper does know just about everything about PL, which could hurt us a little long term.



Now this sounds juicy. Lets hear it. We all know that PL is as dirty as they claim others were, but it would be nice to hear it from someone bitter that witnessed it firsthand and would spill the beans.



I'm honestly shocked, ::shocked:: that Viper didn't steal a bunch of stuff while trying to prevent the door from striking him on the posterior.

But, then, that just confirms something that leaked out earlier.

Despite public perception, Shamiz hasn't been leading PL in a practical sense basically since mid summer. Lacking strong central leadership, it was claimed that, even though there was no official position to support it, Viper was essentially doing whatever leadership there was to do in PL for the last 6 months.

So, the fact that viper *hasn't* stolen everything and left at this point really means that he's the most valuable asset that the entire alliance leadership has - and they're too stupid to recognize it. They deserve whatever their stupid fail cascade brings them.

Tyraeynissa
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2010.02.17 21:56:00 - [92]
 

Edited by: Tyraeynissa on 17/02/2010 21:59:20
Originally by: Xiaodown
Originally by: Metal Dude
Edited by: Metal Dude on 17/02/2010 14:46:39

Originally by: Viper ShizzIe

Everything to come, you brought on yourself.



Sorry, this is weak. No theft, no disbanding of the alliance, no one got Hurlyed, no logs revealing PL’s dirty laundry. What’s this ‘Everything to come”? What are you going to do? Shoot him?





Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

The other issue behind all of this is that viper does know just about everything about PL, which could hurt us a little long term.



Now this sounds juicy. Lets hear it. We all know that PL is as dirty as they claim others were, but it would be nice to hear it from someone bitter that witnessed it firsthand and would spill the beans.



I'm honestly shocked, ::shocked:: that Viper didn't steal a bunch of stuff while trying to prevent the door from striking him on the posterior.

But, then, that just confirms something that leaked out earlier.

Despite public perception, Shamiz hasn't been leading PL in a practical sense basically since mid summer. Lacking strong central leadership, it was claimed that, even though there was no official position to support it, Viper was essentially doing whatever leadership there was to do in PL for the last 6 months.

So, the fact that viper *hasn't* stolen everything and left at this point really means that he's the most valuable asset that the entire alliance leadership has - and they're too stupid to recognize it. They deserve whatever their stupid fail cascade brings them.




Not really

Quote:

Viper ShizzIe posted:
If I was running anything to do with this alliance we would have left months ago, don't kid yourself.



in some other forum

Narciss Sevar
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.02.17 22:23:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Xiaodown
Originally by: Metal Dude
Edited by: Metal Dude on 17/02/2010 14:46:39

Originally by: Viper ShizzIe

Everything to come, you brought on yourself.



Sorry, this is weak. No theft, no disbanding of the alliance, no one got Hurlyed, no logs revealing PL’s dirty laundry. What’s this ‘Everything to come”? What are you going to do? Shoot him?


Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

The other issue behind all of this is that viper does know just about everything about PL, which could hurt us a little long term.



Now this sounds juicy. Lets hear it. We all know that PL is as dirty as they claim others were, but it would be nice to hear it from someone bitter that witnessed it firsthand and would spill the beans.



I'm honestly shocked, ::shocked:: that Viper didn't steal a bunch of stuff while trying to prevent the door from striking him on the posterior.

But, then, that just confirms something that leaked out earlier.

Despite public perception, Shamiz hasn't been leading PL in a practical sense basically since mid summer. Lacking strong central leadership, it was claimed that, even though there was no official position to support it, Viper was essentially doing whatever leadership there was to do in PL for the last 6 months.

So, the fact that viper *hasn't* stolen everything and left at this point really means that he's the most valuable asset that the entire alliance leadership has - and they're too stupid to recognize it. They deserve whatever their stupid fail cascade brings them.
Viper was left in charge for a week during pureblind when shamis went on holiday.

IonHammer
Minmatar
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
Merciless.
Posted - 2010.02.17 22:58:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: Trigger64
Edited by: Trigger64 on 17/02/2010 06:29:25
:popcorn:

Edit: So it's true, PL really is failure cascading.

Viper when you're evac'ing your **** and running with your tail between your legs, can you at least have the decency to contract me back what is mine? :youknowhat:


pass me the popcorn bud.

andys cz
Caldari
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2010.02.17 23:18:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Viper ShizzIe
Here's a small protip for any alliance leaders out there. If you intend to **** over one of the main corporations in your alliance, stage a coup, or otherwise **** off someone who knows *everything* about your plans and how you operate, you should make sure that person doesn't have friends where you post your plans.


Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
So I'm basically done with dealing with Viper's bull****. This poses a problem in that he's the ceo of o****.

So I'd like to get rid of him, and I may have to get rid of o**** completely, but if possible I'd like to retain some of the good o**** members, and I'd also possibly want to orchestrate a coup within o**** to put somebody more amiable into the leadership position. I have some leverage in this regard in that Angel has agreed to help me with that if necessary, but I'm not so sure what she can pull off, and the question would still be who to put at the helm after we did it.

The other issue behind all of this is that viper does know just about everything about PL, which could hurt us a little long term.

The next issue is **** and/or NESW. NESW's participation is nearing ZERO, and the few active members they do have have been in low sec and have been actively flying with other corporations and even flying with some IT guys!!! This is totally unacceptable. I either want NESW out, or I want new leadership, or I want a complete change in their behaviour. NOt sure exactly how to make that happen.

**** seems like a failed corp. Their ceo is completely inactive, and if he is online, it's in syndicate. They have not moved any of their dreads or other infrastructure into geminate. This one is more of a no-brainer than the others and I'm pretty sure they will just be kickec, but I'm trying to figure out the best way to do it in that I might be able to poach the useful members before or during the removal of the corp.

Obviously the decisions I make here can have drastic affects on the alliance, which is why I'm here asking all of you for any insight you may have since this is the only forum I can really trust with this kind of info.


Sorry, Shamis, I don't think this is really going to work out for you. I gave you the option to settle our differences in private and move on with rebuilding PL but you decided to do this instead. I'm sorry you felt the need to go this far to prove your point. I hope the remaining corps in PL and Pandemic Legion as an entity find what they're looking for in EVE and get back to the status they once had.

Everything to come, you brought on yourself.


~Elite~ tears, best tears.

General Windypops
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2010.02.17 23:45:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: andys cz
~Elite~ tears, best tears.


I don't know what you're talking about. Only the strongest, hairiest and manliest of leaders post chatlogs that show how needy, paranoid and insecure they are about their internet friends. Go Viper!


Novemb3r
Minmatar
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.02.18 00:02:00 - [97]
 

At least now we can go back to what really matters to us.

AFK mining in High sec while we play HON

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2010.02.18 00:31:00 - [98]
 

Hope PL get's it's act cleaned up and go back at what they always ruled at in the old days.
I am sure this would mean more forumwarriors because ingame it would be too dangerous to undock.

Blackhorizon
Caldari
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.02.18 00:33:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Evil Thug
Hey BlackHorizon. I think this is UNACCEPTABLE.


#care

Trinity Faetal
Gallente
Little Garden
Posted - 2010.02.18 00:38:00 - [100]
 

Edited by: Trinity Faetal on 18/02/2010 00:37:57
PL trying to be relevant in this day and age...Shocked

drMile Kitic
Gallente
WEPRA CORP
WILD BOARS
Posted - 2010.02.18 00:56:00 - [101]
 

Gruxella would be excellent CEO.

Shadoo
Gallente
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.02.18 00:58:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Evil Thug
Hey BlackHorizon. I think this is UNACCEPTABLE.


Yo, hands off my HoN buddy tinkerbell. ugh

Mister Vee
Caldari
Magellanic Itg
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.02.18 01:21:00 - [103]
 

you're all really gay

Jogyn
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.02.18 01:23:00 - [104]
 

HON CREW REPORTING IN

Jondar Valador
Caldari
Intergalactic Crossing
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2010.02.18 01:40:00 - [105]
 


brutorcitizen20100525206
Minmatar
1337H4X
The Methodical Alliance
Posted - 2010.02.18 02:29:00 - [106]
 

Viper creates forum drama like Chinese kids create toys.

<3

also I do observe that viper did a pretty good job in PB, Shamis managed to welp fountain and he would have failed against maru kage

Evil Thug
Minmatar
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2010.02.18 02:39:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Shadoo
Originally by: Evil Thug
Hey BlackHorizon. I think this is UNACCEPTABLE.


Yo, hands off my HoN buddy tinkerbell. ugh


See, there is some kind of wierd сoincidence. You both playing HoN -> your corps are being kicked from PL ! Thats no good !YARRRR!!

Rebellion
Caldari
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2010.02.18 04:31:00 - [108]
 

You hate each other more than you hate us?

We're clearly doing something wrong.

Novemb3r
Minmatar
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.02.18 05:11:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Rebellion
We're clearly doing something wrong.


At least you finally figured it out.

yfz3r0
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2010.02.18 05:52:00 - [110]
 

Edited by: yfz3r0 on 18/02/2010 05:52:28
Originally by: Koronos
Best thing in this thread by far? TunDraGon still active?!



Alive and well sir, alive and well.

Anile8er
Minmatar
Five Fat Soldiers
Posted - 2010.02.18 07:21:00 - [111]
 

Edited by: Anile8er on 18/02/2010 07:21:55
Originally by: Snot Shot

Viper why would you think anyone gives a **** about any of PLs internal issues at this point? PL died with the Titan nerf so stop wandering into the forums like anyone cares what you fools are doing these days…Rolling Eyes

Remember, PL always be remembered best for loosing 4-Titans in one battle and running from a region like a chicken with its ass on fire…..Wink
.



Snot I often enjoy reading what you write, however I'll say your not one to talk about alliances runnig from a 0.0 region.

To remind you and help keep you in your place: Your alliance lives in Jita, they hold no sov, for the most part you guys can flip and grief noobs, how many titans does your alliance have? and when was the last time your alliance fielded them? (never cause you only PVP in empire).

Jack 0'Spades
Caldari
Mass Evacuation
Taboo.
Posted - 2010.02.18 11:46:00 - [112]
 

Troll much? Neutral

Confirmation?? Confused


Has O**** left PL??? Surprised


....but, posting and toasting in am EPIC thread anyway...hai mum ugh

Rikeka
Amarr
Eye of God
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2010.02.18 13:16:00 - [113]
 

Shocked

Snot Shot
Minmatar
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2010.02.18 13:30:00 - [114]
 


Originally by: Anile8er
Originally by: Snot Shot

Viper why would you think anyone gives a **** about any of PLs internal issues at this point? PL died with the Titan nerf so stop wandering into the forums like anyone cares what you fools are doing these days…Rolling Eyes

Remember, PL will always be remembered best for loosing 4-Titans in one battle and running from a region like a chicken with its ass on fire…..Wink
.



Snot I often enjoy reading what you write, however I'll say your not one to talk about alliances runnig from a 0.0 region.

To remind you and help keep you in your place: Your alliance lives in Jita, they hold no sov, for the most part you guys can flip and grief noobs, how many titans does your alliance have? and when was the last time your alliance fielded them? (never cause you only PVP in empire).

Anile8er, I appreciate you trying to keep me pointed in the right direction but I think you are the one speaking out of turn here. I think you should note the Privateers:

1) Has been around longer than most 0.0 Alliances have existed.
2) Racks up more kills than most 0.0 Alliances do weekly, monthly or yearly.
3) War decs and have more wars going on against all the largest 0.0 Alliances than anyone.
4) Gets kills in not only Empire but low sec, 0.0, and even Worm Holes at times.
5) Camps the MOST hostile location in ALL of EVE which is Jita 4-4.


Just because most of the nubs in these threads camp way out 0.0 gates with 50 guys, bubbles, carrier support, and bombs, waiting for a ship to jump in every 2 hours does not mean what they say carries more weight than mine. Btw, I was out in MN5N to watch PL get a clown shoe stuffed up their ***** and by the time I got to PR- (Delve) to hunt goonies a few days later they were already running by like a bunch chickens with their ass on fire from 3 regions as well…

I might not have gotten any kills but that was only because **** is so expensive out there I had to panhandle to try and sc**** a ship together. By the time I had one fitted PL was already booted out and the same happened to me in Delve…. We all don’t camp low sec Kinakka like you…..Confused

As for the Titan comment you made…….. At least I was on the Titan list for a few weeks under the PA flag in my Erebus……..thx Fitz…Wink
.

Nepech Al'akir
Amarr
Resonance.
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2010.02.18 14:25:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Jondar Valador
this thread is now about cats


No its not, get the **** out. Do you really spend your time searching for cats on youtube? Is it because you haven't come to term with you being a furry?

Also I am very mad

Rozanos
Caldari
dUcT TapE aERoNautiCs
Posted - 2010.02.18 14:41:00 - [116]
 

PL Mk. ? Very Happy

So... is o**** joining CH or just Viper? Razz

Muad' Dib
Gallente
PWNED FACTOR HOLDINGS
Posted - 2010.02.18 16:27:00 - [117]
 

Thread is a major dissapointment, no 'thanks for all the fish' isk stealing part.

John Blackthorn
Caldari
Foundation
Posted - 2010.02.18 17:15:00 - [118]
 

I don't see any issue with what Shamis has said/done. If a executor and one of the corp ceo's are not getting along there objectives are not the same. Either the ceo and the corp has to move out or the executor has to make the decision to either find someway to make things work or kick the corp out.

Shurgs,
John

p.s. I've done the same with directors in the corp. You get along for a while but then you start to disagree to the point that it effects the corp and you have to drop them from the corp so you can move along.


brutorcitizen20100525206
Minmatar
1337H4X
The Methodical Alliance
Posted - 2010.02.18 17:25:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Snot Shot

Originally by: Anile8er
Originally by: Snot Shot

Viper why would you think anyone gives a **** about any of PLs internal issues at this point? PL died with the Titan nerf so stop wandering into the forums like anyone cares what you fools are doing these days…Rolling Eyes

Remember, PL will always be remembered best for loosing 4-Titans in one battle and running from a region like a chicken with its ass on fire…..Wink
.



Snot I often enjoy reading what you write, however I'll say your not one to talk about alliances runnig from a 0.0 region.

To remind you and help keep you in your place: Your alliance lives in Jita, they hold no sov, for the most part you guys can flip and grief noobs, how many titans does your alliance have? and when was the last time your alliance fielded them? (never cause you only PVP in empire).

Anile8er, I appreciate you trying to keep me pointed in the right direction but I think you are the one speaking out of turn here. I think you should note the Privateers:

1) Has been around longer than most 0.0 Alliances have existed.
2) Racks up more kills than most 0.0 Alliances do weekly, monthly or yearly.
3) War decs and have more wars going on against all the largest 0.0 Alliances than anyone.
4) Gets kills in not only Empire but low sec, 0.0, and even Worm Holes at times.
5) Camps the MOST hostile location in ALL of EVE which is Jita 4-4.


Just because most of the nubs in these threads camp way out 0.0 gates with 50 guys, bubbles, carrier support, and bombs, waiting for a ship to jump in every 2 hours does not mean what they say carries more weight than mine. Btw, I was out in MN5N to watch PL get a clown shoe stuffed up their ***** and by the time I got to PR- (Delve) to hunt goonies a few days later they were already running by like a bunch chickens with their ass on fire from 3 regions as well…

I might not have gotten any kills but that was only because **** is so expensive out there I had to panhandle to try and sc**** a ship together. By the time I had one fitted PL was already booted out and the same happened to me in Delve…. We all don’t camp low sec Kinakka like you…..Confused

As for the Titan comment you made…….. At least I was on the Titan list for a few weeks under the PA flag in my Erebus……..thx Fitz…Wink
.



nice troll bru~

I see you fly the privateer standard t1 fit rifter, that is alot more economical to use then a erebus anyway.

Dear privateers, you are worse then maru kage. You are worse poster on the forums and worse players in game.

thanks <3

Muad' Dib
Gallente
PWNED FACTOR HOLDINGS
Posted - 2010.02.18 17:27:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: John Blackthorn
I don't see any issue with what Shamis has said/done. If a executor and one of the corp ceo's are not getting along there objectives are not the same. Either the ceo and the corp has to move out or the executor has to make the decision to either find someway to make things work or kick the corp out.

Shurgs,
John

p.s. I've done the same with directors in the corp. You get along for a while but then you start to disagree to the point that it effects the corp and you have to drop them from the corp so you can move along.




Yes, staging a coup d'etat in one of your alliance's corps is a perfectly ok practice - just like getting Hurley'd.


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