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Rikeka
Amarr
Eye of God
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2010.02.08 01:10:00 - [61]
 

LOL, I totally forgot about that Monty sketch.
Thanks for the reminder. Wink

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.02.08 02:15:00 - [62]
 

Was BoB really that respected as alts here claim? When I started playing in Feb 2007, I remember a lot of chest-beating / smacking on CAOD from Band of Brothers. Also, the t20 incident sparked a lot of hate against them.

Mystic Turtle
Minmatar
Trigrams Edge
Posted - 2010.02.08 03:42:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: Suitonia
Was BoB really that respected as alts here claim? When I started playing in Feb 2007, I remember a lot of chest-beating / smacking on CAOD from Band of Brothers. Also, the t20 incident sparked a lot of hate against them.


When I started in Oct 06, I found alot of honour crap from Bob but nothing that wasnt any different from any experienced alliance,..

With Goons it was "mock the dead", "cheat and scam", "lie and cry", with NC it was "exploit the moons", "make up lies about enemies", "**** up diplomacy in 0.0",..

All bob did was the crappy honor / pride thing which everyone else except Goons did, the T20 incident is getting really old now but if you want to mention it you would also have to mention how NC exploited for YEARS with moons minerals, how they had chinese ISK farmers as allies for 'various' reasons,..

Also mention how Goons spent over 6 months defending their "mock the dead" campaign before actually doing anything, how Goons took things way too serious and resorted to stuff in RL to achieve anything in game (not just Haargoth),..

As I said feel free to post about the 'T20' crap but then dont forget to mention about everything else that happened in EvE, also getting 3 BPO spawed doesnt provide skill,.. Twisted Evil

Noskill McCheese
Minmatar
Blackwater USA Inc.
Random-Violence
Posted - 2010.02.08 05:47:00 - [64]
 

Where was it confirmed that haargoth pushed the button for rl money? I've been gone a few months so may have missed it. Eve-search just turns up a bunch of the february '09 hurfblurf.

ShizukaKaze
Amarr
B0rthole
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.02.08 05:58:00 - [65]
 

Ah, Moskill, you just missed forum rule #1.

Anything written by Trigram's Edge is wholly inaccurate and made up. Windy also tends to spew garbage without facts backing things up.

And as for CCP not doing anything about the signature mocking someone's death...it's because it had nothing to do with CCP. As I recall it was an internal forum and not the EvE online forums themselves.

I hate BoB because they cheated. You can't erase that. Goons may try to ruin "Your" game, but that's pretty much what EvE is about. They brought tons of newbies into EvE, bring better documentation and tutorials than CCP themselves (well...for a long time anyways, haven't done NPE in a year or two) and generally enjoy the game. I always enjoyed flying with their fleets. Razor was actually pretty stifling because of all of the srs bsnss. BoB always was really "we are better." Hell...the whole thing with goons when it started was a bunch of high SP characters picking on low SP characters and chestbeating and declaring they won. Didn't wind up so good for them last year.

And I think its quite awesome and hilarious. Only goons can destroy goons. And I know they're laughing all the way back to Syndicate because they have fun in a spaceship internet game.

Mr Dobalina
Minmatar
Fraudulent Foes
Posted - 2010.02.08 06:52:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Originally by: Suitonia
Was BoB really that respected as alts here claim? When I started playing in Feb 2007, I remember a lot of chest-beating / smacking on CAOD from Band of Brothers. Also, the t20 incident sparked a lot of hate against them.


When I started in Oct 06, I found alot of honour crap from Bob but nothing that wasnt any different from any experienced alliance,..

With Goons it was "mock the dead", "cheat and scam", "lie and cry", with NC it was "exploit the moons", "make up lies about enemies", "**** up diplomacy in 0.0",..

All bob did was the crappy honor / pride thing which everyone else except Goons did, the T20 incident is getting really old now but if you want to mention it you would also have to mention how NC exploited for YEARS with moons minerals, how they had chinese ISK farmers as allies for 'various' reasons,..

Also mention how Goons spent over 6 months defending their "mock the dead" campaign before actually doing anything, how Goons took things way too serious and resorted to stuff in RL to achieve anything in game (not just Haargoth),..

As I said feel free to post about the 'T20' crap but then dont forget to mention about everything else that happened in EvE, also getting 3 BPO spawed doesnt provide skill,.. Twisted Evil



The only thing goons changed about eve was forum slang. Other alliances were blobbing, napping, stealing, metagaming, and pulling irl bs way before goons. They just didn't talk about it openly.


Mystic Turtle
Minmatar
Trigrams Edge
Posted - 2010.02.08 07:03:00 - [67]
 

My post got reported and deleted, so I think it is safe to say Goons even feel threatened by me, lol talk about taking things too serious,.. >.>

Cadela Fria
Amarr
x13
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.02.08 07:36:00 - [68]
 

Edited by: Cadela Fria on 08/02/2010 07:38:20
Originally by: Mr Dobalina
Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Originally by: Suitonia
Was BoB really that respected as alts here claim? When I started playing in Feb 2007, I remember a lot of chest-beating / smacking on CAOD from Band of Brothers. Also, the t20 incident sparked a lot of hate against them.


When I started in Oct 06, I found alot of honour crap from Bob but nothing that wasnt any different from any experienced alliance,..

With Goons it was "mock the dead", "cheat and scam", "lie and cry", with NC it was "exploit the moons", "make up lies about enemies", "**** up diplomacy in 0.0",..

All bob did was the crappy honor / pride thing which everyone else except Goons did, the T20 incident is getting really old now but if you want to mention it you would also have to mention how NC exploited for YEARS with moons minerals, how they had chinese ISK farmers as allies for 'various' reasons,..

Also mention how Goons spent over 6 months defending their "mock the dead" campaign before actually doing anything, how Goons took things way too serious and resorted to stuff in RL to achieve anything in game (not just Haargoth),..

As I said feel free to post about the 'T20' crap but then dont forget to mention about everything else that happened in EvE, also getting 3 BPO spawed doesnt provide skill,.. Twisted Evil



The only thing goons changed about eve was forum slang. Other alliances were blobbing, napping, stealing, metagaming, and pulling irl bs way before goons. They just didn't talk about it openly.




So are you saying, excluding minor details, that as long as you talk about it openly...its okay? I'm not trying to justify any past incidents by BoB or anyone related to them in regards to doing similar things. You are however suggesting that this sort of behaviour is acceptable based on the premise of "They did it too!", nevermind actually jeopardizing innocent people's real jobs, giving them real stress and real emotional pain.
Why? Because its the latest rage in internetz humour and "fun"..

There really is no excuse...so..well?

Mr Dobalina
Minmatar
Fraudulent Foes
Posted - 2010.02.08 08:12:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Cadela Fria

So are you saying, excluding minor details, that as long as you talk about it openly...its okay? I'm not trying to justify any past incidents by BoB or anyone related to them in regards to doing similar things. You are however suggesting that this sort of behaviour is acceptable based on the premise of "They did it too!", nevermind actually jeopardizing innocent people's real jobs, giving them real stress and real emotional pain.
Why? Because its the latest rage in internetz humour and "fun"..

There really is no excuse...so..well?


I didn't say anywhere that I thought it was ok, only that it was going on before goons and a complex reality of .0 politics.


Cadela Fria
Amarr
x13
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.02.08 10:08:00 - [70]
 

Edited by: Cadela Fria on 08/02/2010 10:39:19

Originally by: Mr Dobalina
Originally by: Cadela Fria

So are you saying, excluding minor details, that as long as you talk about it openly...its okay? I'm not trying to justify any past incidents by BoB or anyone related to them in regards to doing similar things. You are however suggesting that this sort of behaviour is acceptable based on the premise of "They did it too!", nevermind actually jeopardizing innocent people's real jobs, giving them real stress and real emotional pain.
Why? Because its the latest rage in internetz humour and "fun"..

There really is no excuse...so..well?


I didn't say anywhere that I thought it was ok, only that it was going on before goons and a complex reality of .0 politics.




Fine, Ok...I acknowledge that what you said does in fact not say anywhere that its OK. However please stop to consider that this is in fact largely whats going on as far as the Goons are concerned. The excuse (if you can call it that) they provide now and again, is based on the past events of BoB to some degree and/or people related to them in some way.

Now as far as their (Goons) "obsessed about BoB and their antics" goes and mimicing it..nobody cares beyond that of finding it slightly pathetic and annoying (but sometimes funny) to listen to now and again, so go nuts.
Heck even the part about remarking on Molle's RL occupation of repairing airconditioners and radiators (or whatever it is specifically he does)..by all means if it makes their day. Again, beyond finding it slightly pathetic and annoying to listen to, nobody really cares.

However as soon as you start dragging innocent people and their REAL LIFE jobs into the scope of your malicious and obnoxious behaviour..as soon as you start giving people real stress (panicking over losing your ship isn't stress in this context) and harassing people in REAL LIFE...throwing around accusations, calling their work, making death threats (mind you, death threats are something I don't take very personal...people overreact all the time and say stupid stuff) and in some cases (apparently unbeknownst to me personally..If it never happened, then ignore the remark I made about it)making fun of deceased people. Thats when I, personally, have a problem with it.

For all the ad nauseum tongue-in-cheek 'o snap' remarks, I doubt many have really considered it morally wrong or otherwise something that affects them personally..its certainly fine to do all that repetitive nonsense by most people I know, myself included. So post all the troll threads you want, scam and lie all you want, infiltrate with spies all you want, remark on "ye olde bob" all you want. Obsess as much as you want over the past of EVE and the people in it...its when RL enters the picture it has to stop (EDIT) and "They did it too!" is not an excuse, pure and simple.

EDIT: Typos

Rebellion
Caldari
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2010.02.08 12:21:00 - [71]
 

When we were at the top for years, the playerbase got massive wars, epic conflicts, great drama. I said this before: http://eve-search.com/thread/442752/page/10#271

When we regrouped for 6 months and the Goons were the self-proclaimed top, the playerbase got spam.

Those that have been fighting with us all these years still see us as this: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=356399

Mystic Turtle
Minmatar
Trigrams Edge
Posted - 2010.02.08 12:44:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Rebellion
When we were at the top for years, the playerbase got massive wars, epic conflicts, great drama. I said this before: http://eve-search.com/thread/442752/page/10#271

When we regrouped for 6 months and the Goons were the self-proclaimed top, the playerbase got spam.

Those that have been fighting with us all these years still see us as this: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=356399


Tbh it doesnt really matter what you post the brainwashed are still going to blindly follow their queen bee, fortunately most Goons are less than 1 year old (in game and most likely RL) so I guess they see what Bob/IT are all about,..

To goons that looks that arrogance, to normal people that looks like honour and respect,.. ;)

Anyway to quote Fitz, glory to age of Goons death, the worst alliance in EvE history to be dead, now 0.0 can actually be 'real' again,..

Also this just in 85% of remaining Goonies left for STO LOL!!,..

ExhumeToConsume
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.02.08 12:49:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Rebellion
When we were at the top for years, the playerbase got massive wars, epic conflicts, great drama. I said this before: http://eve-search.com/thread/442752/page/10#271

When we regrouped for 6 months and the Goons were the self-proclaimed top, the playerbase got spam.

Those that have been fighting with us all these years still see us as this: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=356399


I, too, am looking forward to all the internet spaceship ~~goodfights~~ that will spring up in the Eve universe now that the all-conquering white knights of the IT Alliance are in charge of Delve (and Fountain, bonus).

Let the third age of Molledom commence and cover the land with honey and exotic dancers.

Mystic Turtle
Minmatar
Trigrams Edge
Posted - 2010.02.08 12:56:00 - [74]
 

Edited by: Mystic Turtle on 08/02/2010 12:59:49
Originally by: ExhumeToConsume
Originally by: Rebellion
When we were at the top for years, the playerbase got massive wars, epic conflicts, great drama. I said this before: http://eve-search.com/thread/442752/page/10#271

When we regrouped for 6 months and the Goons were the self-proclaimed top, the playerbase got spam.

Those that have been fighting with us all these years still see us as this: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=356399


I, too, am looking forward to all the internet spaceship ~~goodfights~~ that will spring up in the Eve universe now that the all-conquering white knights of the IT Alliance are in charge of Delve (and Fountain, bonus).

Let the third age of Molledom commence and cover the land with honey and exotic dancers.


Because when Goons were in Delve things were different,.. >.>

EDIT; Oh and IT only have delve because you guys got beat so fast, the agenda was to have NOL- by 5th Feb not everything, seriously you guys could have at least stayed til March,..

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2010.02.08 13:10:00 - [75]
 

I am laughing my ass off when I read Goons and BoB/IT replies in this tread, and also when I read the alts that post like mad, both sides trying to create a network around them of people who will choose their sides.

One side saying that the other side cheated and was too overzealous in their approach towards the game. Not that they themselves played it that fair and weren't overzealous in their approach towards the game.

The other side calling the one side little kids, unfair chestbeaters, metagamers etc. Not that they themselves are that mature, play it fair and dont metagame.

If you look closely at it you will hardly see any noticeable differences between the 2 groups. Both nothing else then bullies of the block and blaming the other one to use tactics they themselves use aswel.


Mystic Turtle
Minmatar
Trigrams Edge
Posted - 2010.02.08 13:17:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Killer Gandry
I am laughing my ass off when I read Goons and BoB/IT replies in this tread, and also when I read the alts that post like mad, both sides trying to create a network around them of people who will choose their sides.

One side saying that the other side cheated and was too overzealous in their approach towards the game. Not that they themselves played it that fair and weren't overzealous in their approach towards the game.

The other side calling the one side little kids, unfair chestbeaters, metagamers etc. Not that they themselves are that mature, play it fair and dont metagame.

If you look closely at it you will hardly see any noticeable differences between the 2 groups. Both nothing else then bullies of the block and blaming the other one to use tactics they themselves use aswel.




This is our RP I guess, no difference to when RL politics gets anal, all in all its fun ****, but I am 100% unbiased in my comments and only speak what is true, Goons have to read from a script,..

Vote Sarah Palin 2012,.. Ooops wrong forum,..

ExhumeToConsume
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.02.08 13:30:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Because when Goons were in Delve things were different,.. >.>

EDIT; Oh and IT only have delve because you guys got beat so fast, the agenda was to have NOL- by 5th Feb not everything, seriously you guys could have at least stayed til March,..


Confirming that Goons care for nothing more than their internet spaceships credibility. To demonstrate this, I will offer to reimburse anyone who lost a cap ship to Goons in the last 6 months. All that is required is a small logistics/administration fee of 250 million isk to be paid into my account. I'm sure you'll realise that this small sum pales into insignificance when compared to the cost of a cap ship.

I trust that those who hate us will soon marvel at such generosity and our e-honour can be restored to its former glory.

Doctor Penguin
Amarr
Sacred Templars
Black Star Alliance
Posted - 2010.02.08 13:34:00 - [78]
 

"Don't argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Pretty much the Goon effect on this forum. GB2SA. All I'm hoping is that this forum will be less full of idiots with Goons out of the way.

Mystic Turtle
Minmatar
Trigrams Edge
Posted - 2010.02.08 14:10:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: ExhumeToConsume
Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Because when Goons were in Delve things were different,.. >.>

EDIT; Oh and IT only have delve because you guys got beat so fast, the agenda was to have NOL- by 5th Feb not everything, seriously you guys could have at least stayed til March,..


Confirming that Goons care for nothing more than their internet spaceships credibility.


Thanks for the confirmation,..

Nemulus
Gallente
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.02.08 14:24:00 - [80]
 

I'm going to answer the orginal question of this thread. The subtle differences between BoB and Goons. From what I have seen ingame and now in this thread and CAOD generally........

Lol there is no difference at all they do the same things in a different way but it adds up to the same. I'll add its just the same in all Online games don't hate them for it people change when they get power even air condition maintenance guys it seems ~:P.

Lets just play the game its still good and goes round in circles, 6 months from now IT will be in ruin and new Goons (BoB) will be top of the foodchain or maybe another coalition of 20 alliances lol.

Nem

Tobruk
Caldari
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.02.08 14:43:00 - [81]
 

the main difference

Goonswarm won its victories without CCPs help

VCBee 2fast2furious
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.02.08 15:22:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: Doctor Penguin
"Don't argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Pretty much the Goon effect on this forum. GB2SA. All I'm hoping is that this forum will be less full of idiots with Goons out of the way.


confirming that we're never going to post again because our internet regions are gone Sad

Mystic Turtle
Minmatar
Trigrams Edge
Posted - 2010.02.08 15:26:00 - [83]
 

Originally by: VCBee 2fast2furious
Originally by: Doctor Penguin
"Don't argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Pretty much the Goon effect on this forum. GB2SA. All I'm hoping is that this forum will be less full of idiots with Goons out of the way.


confirming that we're never going to post again because our internet regions are gone Sad


Well tbh CAOD is dead much like your alliance, you guys didnt really post until Mittani ordered you to, I welcome all spam and trolling but its been pretty dead around here, ah well we still have lolz on gf.com how you guys are going to get revenge,.. EmbarassedEmbarassed

Jaggath
Caldari
Spacebattles.com
Vivisection.
Posted - 2010.02.08 16:55:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: titanstory
Originally by: Mystic Turtle


Sect1on XIII, seriously you got to be kidding me so glad you guys died in the purge last month,..


hey who are you ? did you know us ? well so you know what to do :)


Surrender like all good Frenchmen should right?

Larsonist
Amarr
Darkwave Technologies
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2010.02.08 18:01:00 - [85]
 

Quote:
I don't recall anyone ever proving he died, sounds like a big excuse to me. I mean who brings RL death into a video game, that's just absurd. Smoske I know you're playing on a different character and laughing about this, I'm calling you out.



pointless statement.


Buh bye goons Wink

Kimi PewPew
Amarr
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2010.02.08 18:33:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Originally by: VCBee 2fast2furious
Originally by: Doctor Penguin
"Don't argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Pretty much the Goon effect on this forum. GB2SA. All I'm hoping is that this forum will be less full of idiots with Goons out of the way.


confirming that we're never going to post again because our internet regions are gone Sad


Well tbh CAOD is dead much like your alliance, you guys didnt really post until Mittani ordered you to, I welcome all spam and trolling but its been pretty dead around here, ah well we still have lolz on gf.com how you guys are going to get revenge,.. EmbarassedEmbarassed


It's true I am both one year old in real life (irl) and in game (irl) and I was ordered to post (irl) by THE MITTANI (irl) I'm also dead (irl)

Itzena
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.02.08 19:25:00 - [87]
 

Originally by: Mystic Turtle
My post got reported and deleted, so I think it is safe to say Goons even feel threatened by me, lol talk about taking things too serious,.. >.>

Nah, it's just that your posting is so terrible even the mods hate it.

Rooman
Amarr
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
Posted - 2010.02.08 19:42:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Tobruk
the main difference

Goonswarm won its victories without CCPs help
Confirming we only kicked you out of Fountain with Devhax intervention Embarassed

Emrod
Amarr
Legion Du Lys
Posted - 2010.02.08 20:35:00 - [89]
 

Edited by: Emrod on 08/02/2010 20:36:55
Originally by: Jaggath
Originally by: titanstory
Originally by: Mystic Turtle


Sect1on XIII, seriously you got to be kidding me so glad you guys died in the purge last month,..


hey who are you ? did you know us ? well so you know what to do :)


Surrender like all good Frenchmen should right?


Say the racist biggot.

I guess you dont know nothing about Leo Major huh. Go do your homework and made a little reseach about him, he is a quebecker from the world war 2 era. Yes a french speaking person...you know...the kind of peoples you hate. This guy will made you change your statement about how frenchmen surrender... and you will reconsider it in a different perspective...like how hundreds of germans soldiers surrender to a sole man.

K thx bye.


Kaigon Jane
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2010.02.08 21:09:00 - [90]
 

Edited by: Kaigon Jane on 08/02/2010 21:12:41

The subtle difference between IT and Goons?

BoB/IT owns a lot of space and are rich while Goon are broke and homeless
BoB/It allies owns a lot of space and are rich while Goon allies are broke and homeless

BoB/IT wtfbbqpwned Goon pet, PL and thier pet SOT and reduced NC to 10 systems in MAX
Goon, just stop disbanding alliances

BoB/IT do not **** post, they use cool alts :)
Goon measure there leetness by their ****posting and trolled there own CEO to death, honest

BoB use forums to communicate
Goons are F5, bashing forum addicts, with their “memes” and “poasting” count, game is secondary


BoB/IT are cool people
Goons are not

EDIT oooh sniper


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