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JosepthPBrenner
Posted - 2011.01.11 09:47:00 - [211]
 

Edited by: JosepthPBrenner on 11/01/2011 09:47:45
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson
Originally by: munitqua
Edited by: munitqua on 10/01/2011 18:59:20
Edited by: munitqua on 10/01/2011 18:46:27
Great guide! I want to get into Minmatar FW and this guide is perfect to get my -2.65 back to at least 0.0 :P

Thanks man!

Hey guys, i cant do the tutorial agent missions for minmatar, my standings are -2.5 with minmatar, and my sec status is -1.38. How ever i can access the career agent missions


Thanks, hope this helps.

All level 1 quality 0 and lower Agents are available to everyone regardless of Faction standings. All Career, Tutorial, Circle and a few Data Center along with some Cosmos Agents are at that level. As long as the Faction standing is above -5.00 and your Security Status is above -2.00, you can enter Minmatar high security space to complete those missions.


Thanks for the reply, ill try some more tutorial agents.

EDIT: Alt of munitqua

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.01.11 10:25:00 - [212]
 

You're welcome.

You should be able to access the Minmatar Tutorial, Career and Circle Agents with the standings you posted. If you can't access those agents, send a petition ingame - F12 key (Eve Help) - Create new petition - Stuck Character.

I hope you have good luck working this 'Plan'.


Fergus Runkle
Minmatar
Truth and Reconciliation Council
Posted - 2011.01.12 14:24:00 - [213]
 

Great Guide this even for those of us who have been around for a long time and thought they knew all about standings.

Heres a question though, I have a a character with a Caldari standing of -6.54 (-3.23 after diplomacy) and I'd like to be able to raise this. However the character has a very high Minmatar standing and I do not want to lose this, other than the epic arc (which this character cannot do) is there any way of raising the Caldari standing without trashing the Minmatar standing ?

I'm pretty certain there is not and that I'll have to just live with it. Although I can raise Caldari corporate standings via level 1, quality 0 agents I can never get access to higher level agents without getting that Caldari faction back over -2 and if I do that I will lose the high Minmatar faction standing.

I thought I'd ask, just in case. Wink

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.01.12 22:33:00 - [214]
 

Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 12/01/2011 22:35:22
Thanks for posting.

I don't know what level of Diplomacy or Connections you currently have but training Diplomacy up to lv 5 will help raise the negative Caldari standing a lot. Training the Connections skill will help keep and increase the positive Minmatar standing.

If you have all Empire Faction standings above -5.00 and your Security Status is above -2.00, then you can freely travel anywhere and already have access to the Sisters of Eve level 1 Epic Arc.

My suggestion is to complete the SoE arc for Caldari Faction. That will give you +8.75% Caldari Faction standing increase without hurting your Minmatar Faction standing. Hopefully that will be enough to gain access to the higher level Caldari agents.

The other option is to do the 'Bounce' action between Caldari and Minmatar Event Agents listed in the 'Plan'. Each one of those Agents give Faction and Corporation standing increase. Of course you'll also get some negative derived standings which is the reason for the 'Bounce' action. You only have to raise Caldari Faction standing above -2.00 to access the higher level Agents of Expert Distribution Corporation which will allow you to quickly gain the corp standing needed for access to the Caldari level 4 Epic Arc.

Sometimes you just have to give up a little bit of standing with one Faction in order to gain a lot of standing with another Faction. There are a lot of Event Agents so gaining back the lost standing should be no problem.

Hope this helps and good luck to you. Cool

munitqua
Caldari
BlackSite Prophecy
Posted - 2011.01.13 10:14:00 - [215]
 

Originally by: DeMichael Crimson
You're welcome.

You should be able to access the Minmatar Tutorial, Career and Circle Agents with the standings you posted. If you can't access those agents, send a petition ingame - F12 key (Eve Help) - Create new petition - Stuck Character.

I hope you have good luck working this 'Plan'.




Yah i cant do any Tutorials! Ive tried 5 or 6 agents. Anyway, its lost faction standing for now, but i can continue with the plan. I see that data center missions give a lot of faction standing, so i hope im done with grinding missions after those :P

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.01.13 11:26:00 - [216]
 

Originally by: munitqua

Yah i cant do any Tutorials! Ive tried 5 or 6 agents. Anyway, its lost faction standing for now, but i can continue with the plan. I see that data center missions give a lot of faction standing, so i hope im done with grinding missions after those :P


Sad Sorry to hear that.

All Tutorial Agents are Level 1 Quality -20 and are available to all players regardless of standings. Each agent mission offer can only be completed once in the life of the players character.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Tutorial_Agents

The only reason I can think of for you not having access to them now is maybe you've already completed their missions before, back when you first started playing the game.

If not, then definitely send a petition ingame. Anyway, there's 15 Minmatar Tutorial Agents, maybe you haven't completed missions for all of them. Also completing the Gallente Event Agent missions will give derived Faction standing increase towards Minmatar.

munitqua
Caldari
BlackSite Prophecy
Posted - 2011.01.13 12:51:00 - [217]
 

Edited by: munitqua on 13/01/2011 13:35:39
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson
Originally by: munitqua

Yah i cant do any Tutorials! Ive tried 5 or 6 agents. Anyway, its lost faction standing for now, but i can continue with the plan. I see that data center missions give a lot of faction standing, so i hope im done with grinding missions after those :P


Sad Sorry to hear that.

All Tutorial Agents are Level 1 Quality -20 and are available to all players regardless of standings. Each agent mission offer can only be completed once in the life of the players character.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Tutorial_Agents

The only reason I can think of for you not having access to them now is maybe you've already completed their missions before, back when you first started playing the game.

If not, then definitely send a petition ingame. Anyway, there's 15 Minmatar Tutorial Agents, maybe you haven't completed missions for all of them. Also completing the Gallente Event Agent missions will give derived Faction standing increase towards Minmatar.



Ive never been to minmatar space before, so i dont think ive done any tutorial missions. Ive only been in caldari and ammar space.

I was looking at the career agent missions... I can do every different careeer agent (even though the missions are the same) for faction standing?

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.01.14 06:15:00 - [218]
 

Yes, you get Faction standing increase for completing part 10 of the Career Agents mission series.

You should be able to access all agents that are level 1 quality 0 and lower regardless of your standings. All you need to have is all Empire Faction standings above -5.00 and your Security Status above -2.00 to freely travel into all Empire Factions space. If you have that, you can also access the Sisters of Eve Level 1 Epic Arc and complete it for Minmatar and receive +8.75% Faction standing increase.

As for not being able to access the Tutorial Agents, I don't know what to say about that except send a petition in-game.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

Goran Grafth
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.01.15 16:33:00 - [219]
 

"The Plan" is brilliant! Great job and many many thanks, DC. You've helped me raise Amarr and Caldari standings from neg to pos and that was JUST with the tutorial, career, circle and level one data center agents. Haven't started with the COSMOS missions yet, gotta do some bouncing first. Again, thank you!!

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.01.15 23:08:00 - [220]
 

Goran Grafth, thank you for posting, it's always good to hear that. Cool

Hope you have continued good luck working the 'Plan'.

Physsthpok
Posted - 2011.01.16 13:24:00 - [221]
 

Hello DeMichael,

As this thread is now a year old, it would be interesting to see those 'my standings' posts you were mentioning regularly during the first quarter of 2010, but haven't mentioned for several months now. I think you have disproved the idea that standings are '1 step forward for the good-guys and 1/2 step backwards for the bad-guys' with regards to the opposing factions. If that were strictly true, you would be stuck at 3.33 standings for all Empire factions, and your last posting of standings I recall had them at least about 4. So clearly there are standings boosts available that do not have significant negative impact, as long as you carefully chose amongst your 'Plan' options.

You seemed to be sailing along rather well most of 2010 until you decided to go after the R&D Agents. You mentioned shifts in standings occurring as a result, so I wonder if you had now lost all the easy ways of recovering standings (since most of your list is one-time agents). Your last mention was something about Level 4 COSMOS and needing skills and items to proceed.

Perhaps something learned from your great experiment is that you better setup your R&D before launching a grand plan to have access to every Empire Agent?

--

A side question about the SoE Epic, anyone know how the 3 months (between running it) is measured? From the time you started it? From the time you completed it (which can be a month later since there are no timeouts) ? It seems that you must travel all the way to Alitura to find out.

fLitSer
NEOPHYTE.
EXTERMINATUM
Posted - 2011.01.16 14:44:00 - [222]
 

Originally by: Physsthpok
Hello DeMichael,

As this thread is now a year old, it would be interesting to see those 'my standings' posts you were mentioning regularly during the first quarter of 2010, but haven't mentioned for several months now. I think you have disproved the idea that standings are '1 step forward for the good-guys and 1/2 step backwards for the bad-guys' with regards to the opposing factions. If that were strictly true, you would be stuck at 3.33 standings for all Empire factions, and your last posting of standings I recall had them at least about 4. So clearly there are standings boosts available that do not have significant negative impact, as long as you carefully chose amongst your 'Plan' options.

You seemed to be sailing along rather well most of 2010 until you decided to go after the R&D Agents. You mentioned shifts in standings occurring as a result, so I wonder if you had now lost all the easy ways of recovering standings (since most of your list is one-time agents). Your last mention was something about Level 4 COSMOS and needing skills and items to proceed.

Perhaps something learned from your great experiment is that you better setup your R&D before launching a grand plan to have access to every Empire Agent?

--

A side question about the SoE Epic, anyone know how the 3 months (between running it) is measured? From the time you started it? From the time you completed it (which can be a month later since there are no timeouts) ? It seems that you must travel all the way to Alitura to find out.


Agreed

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.01.17 03:29:00 - [223]
 

Oh yea of little faith. Wink

The 3 month timer starts when the Epic Arc is completed.

As for my not posting statistics, yes, I've been grinding Corporation standings to gain access to high level Research Agents. One of my goals was to have access to all Research Agents in all 13 R&D Corporations. Most players think there's only 4 Factions with R&D Corporations when actually there's 7 Factions.

Amarr Empire:
* Carthum Conglomerate
* Viziam - no storyline agent

Ammatar Mandate:
* Nefantar Miner Association

Caldari State:
* Ishukone Corporation
* Kaalakiota Corporation
* Lai Dai Corporation - no storyline agent

Gallente Federation:
* CreoDron
* Duvolle Laboratories
* Roden Shipyards

Khanid Kingdom:
* Khanid Innovation - no storyline agent

Minmatar Republic:
* Boundless Creation
* Core Complexion

Thukker Tribe:
* Thukker Mix

As of right now I have access to the highest Research Agent in 7 of the 13 R&D Corporations.

Carthum Conglomerate
Core Complexion
Duvolle Laboratories
Ishukone Corporation
Nefantar Miner Association
Roden Shipyards
Thukker Mix

Also there are in fact 8 different Factions that control high security systems which is commonly know as Empire space.

Amarr Empire
Ammatar Mandate
Caldari State
Concord Assembly
Gallente Federation
Khanid Kingdom
Minmatar Republic
The Interbus

I'd like to add that I also do Exploration, Invention and Manufacturing to break up the monotony of constantly grinding missions. Actually, when I do Exploration (which I like), I tend to lose all track of time.

For those that want to check my eveboard stats = DeMichael_Crimson

Update on statistics:

Empire Faction Standings (Modified):
Caldari State +5.80,
Amarr Empire +5.26,
Khanid Kingdom +5.24,
Ammatar Mandate +5.00,
Minmatar Republic +5.00,
The Interbus +4.99,
Gallente Federation +4.39,
Concord Assembly +2.56,

Social Skills:
Social lv 5
Connections lv 5
Fast Talk lv 5
Diplomacy lv 5
Negotiation lv 5

Security Status:
+5.85

Data Center Tags completed:
Minmatar = Angel Crystal and lower - need Gold
Gallente = Serpentis Diamond and lower - need Brass and Gold
Caldari = Guristas Crystal and lower - need Brass
Amarr = Blood Crystal and lower - need Gold
Ammatar = Sansha Crystal and lower - need Gold

Epic Arcs Completed:
Level 1 Sisters Of Eve = 3x (1x Minmatar, 1x Amarr, 1x Gallente)
Level 4 Amarr = Started
Level 4 Caldari = Started
Level 4 Gallente = Started
Level 4 Minmatar = Started

Tutorial, Career, Circle Agents Completed:
All Empire Factions

Cosmos Agents Completed:
All Empire Factions = level 3 and lower

Special Agents Completed (Security Status):
Christer Fuglesang = Concord
Jeremy Tacs = Concord

Items recieved from Cosmos Agents:
132 COSMOS storyline BPC's
12 COSMOS storyline modules

I have about 1 week of skill training left to complete for Command Ships. I was planning on flying a Sleipnir to do the level 4 Epic Arcs. As you can see my average Faction standing is +5.00 and above for most of the Empire Factions.

As usual, I'll be sure to post my updated stats as soon as I complete the level 4 Epic Arcs.

Female Face
Posted - 2011.01.17 08:27:00 - [224]
 

Mr DeMichael Crimson, 2 reasons for visitng your amazing post:

1- Thanks for providing such a comprehensive and very workable standing plan, i used it on my main to help me get the huge standings that I now have. thank you.

2- Please if you have a minute could you take a look at my post here - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1449782 and give me some input if you have any experience on the matter? I would really appreciate it.

Yours truly,

Female "Fan of DeCrim" Face Wink

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.01.17 11:16:00 - [225]
 

Female Face, thank you very much. I'm glad the 'Plan' helped your main character. Cool

I looked at your post and I'm sorry to say I don't know too much about how much isk to charge others in helping to increase their corp/agent standings. There's a lot of variables to consider. Besides the standings, isk and LP's being shared, the corp itself should account for something as well. And then there's also the time you'll spend doing it.

I'm a bit stingy when it comes to standings, meaning that if I'm taking the time to build up my standings, they should also take the time and do it for themselves.

Now if they were to be an active member in the fleet and help complete the missions, then that's a totally different situation.

Anyway, good luck to you in whatever you decide to do.

DMC

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.02.08 11:19:00 - [226]
 

Just wanted to say that I can now fly a Sleipnir which I had planed to use to complete the level 4 Epic Arcs and level 4 Cosmos Agent missions.

After checking my skills and ship skill requirements, I noticed that with a couple of days training I'll also be able to fly a Machariel.

Now the hard part, decisions, decisions,,,,,,,,,

Kintrell
Caldari
White Dragon Industries
Full Spectrum Enterprises
Posted - 2011.02.15 19:39:00 - [227]
 

Go have a look now and tell me what ya think!!

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.02.16 05:17:00 - [228]
 

Hello Kintrell,

No problem, I'll check it out for you and leave a reply.



DMC

Xanthar Rex
Noir.
Posted - 2011.02.17 13:31:00 - [229]
 

Holy mother, that is an impressive amount of research and effort there DeMichael. You should be awarded an honorary PhD for that!

Keep us updated on your progress, I'm sure ISD would be interested in a headline article once you've obtained your goal :)


DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.02.18 19:01:00 - [230]
 

Originally by: Xanthar Rex
Holy mother, that is an impressive amount of research and effort there DeMichael. You should be awarded an honorary PhD for that!

Keep us updated on your progress, I'm sure ISD would be interested in a headline article once you've obtained your goal :)




Xanthar Rex, thanks. Very Happy

This was posted back towards the beginning of this thread.

Originally by: The history says,
"DeMichael Crimson single-handedly compiled bits of shattered, hidden wisdoms into a great milestone that lead to true peace with most recognized powers of New Eden. In doing so, he so bravely rescued uncountable numbers of cursed souls from evil CCP's bloody hands that CCP's grudging evil groan is still heard these days"


Shocked

Anyway, thanks again for posting. I'll definitely keep updating this thread with the statistics of my progress from working this 'Plan'.

Cool

DMC

Linda Shadowborn
Gallente
Dark Steel Industries
Posted - 2011.03.06 23:53:00 - [231]
 

Edited by: Linda Shadowborn on 06/03/2011 23:53:12
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson
The lv 1 Sisters of Eve Epic Arc starting agent has no required standing for access. To complete the SoE arc requires travel in all Factions high security systems. Having personal Security Status above -2.00 and all Empire Faction Standings above -5.00 is needed. The SoE arc allows a choice of Faction at the end which can help balance out lop-sided Faction Standings.


I thought the sisters epic arc didnt give any standing increase http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Blood-Stained_Stars

# The missions in this arc do not affect any factional standings directly, though each mission will count towards receiving a Storyline Mission from the Sisters of EVE, which will affect standings normally.

Or did you mean purely for the possible storyline?

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.03.07 03:51:00 - [232]
 

Originally by: Linda Shadowborn
I thought the sisters epic arc didnt give any standing increase http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Blood-Stained_Stars

# The missions in this arc do not affect any factional standings directly, though each mission will count towards receiving a Storyline Mission from the Sisters of EVE, which will affect standings normally.

Or did you mean purely for the possible storyline?


Hello Linda,

During the level 1 Sisters of Eve Epic Arc, players should receive one or two storyline missions offered by the Sisters of Eve Faction for completing various missions.

Towards the end of the level 1 Sisters of Eve Epic Arc, players are offered a choice of which Faction (Amarr, Caldari, Gallente or Minmatar) to side with for the final battle to capture Dagan. After Dagan is captured, the next mission will have the player transport Dagan to a SOE Prison Barge located in another system. That is the last mission for the Arc.

After completing the Arc, players will receive +8.75% Faction standing increase with the Faction that was chosen for the final battle.

All of the Epic Arcs can be redone every three months for Faction standing increase.

I hope this answers your question. Thanks for posting and good luck to you.

DMC

Nerror theTerror
Posted - 2011.03.07 04:29:00 - [233]
 

Edited by: Nerror theTerror on 07/03/2011 04:40:08
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson
Originally by: Linda Shadowborn
I thought the sisters epic arc didnt give any standing increase


After completing the Arc, players will receive +8.75% Faction standing increase with the Faction that was chosen for the final battle.

Just a quick note to Linda; the +8.75% is with Social 5. It's 7% base standing increase modified by the Social skill, which goes up to 25% at 5. With Social 4 you'd get 8.4%. In the long run it really does pay off to get Social to 5, and also Negotiation to 5 because it indirectly affects standing gains. So get those two skills up asap.

The other social skills are also good to have, but unless you have a lot of negative standings (in which case, diplomacy is your friend), the others can be gotten along the way just fine. Connections allows you to access better agents quicker, so indirectly that can affect the standing gains as well.

Linda Flamewalker
Posted - 2011.03.08 16:31:00 - [234]
 

Thanks guys :) Grinded through that arc yesterday and now the minmatar like me somewhat more. cheers

Dsan
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2011.03.08 17:52:00 - [235]
 

Edited by: Dsan on 08/03/2011 18:06:17
Looking at this topic and reading it, I got the idea that this "guide" or all this information should be preserved, maybe or preferably outside these forums. :S
It seems it's very useful to a lot of people and very popular, I'd hate to see it drown on the forums :P

Consider doing something yourself, I feel it should almost be copyrighted or something :P
Otherwise I'd be happy to try and make a website version of it maybe.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.03.09 04:52:00 - [236]
 

Originally by: Dsan
Edited by: Dsan on 08/03/2011 18:06:17
Looking at this topic and reading it, I got the idea that this "guide" or all this information should be preserved, maybe or preferably outside these forums. :S
It seems it's very useful to a lot of people and very popular, I'd hate to see it drown on the forums :P

Consider doing something yourself, I feel it should almost be copyrighted or something :P
Otherwise I'd be happy to try and make a website version of it maybe.


Dsan, thanks. Cool

Yeah, this 'Plan' is indeed very useful and helpful for a lot of players.

Since I continue posting updates of my stats while working this 'Plan', this thread will stay alive for a while, at least until I complete it. Also with other players who are in need of Faction standing repair asking questions and or posting thanks for the info, I doubt this thread will 'drown' in the forums.

As soon as I complete all of the Event Agents listed in the 'Plan', I was going to condense all of the information, questions and answers into a 'GUIDE' for the Evelopedia.

However, contact me when I'm online and ingame and we'll talk more about your suggestions.

As usual, I'll be sure to post my updated stats asap.

DMC

CCP Spitfire


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.03.16 09:13:00 - [237]
 

Offtopic posts removed.


Hous BinPharteen
Caldari
Posted - 2011.03.24 18:02:00 - [238]
 

Can the Sisters Epic Arc be redone for faction boost for the same faction? Or is it one time only per faction?

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.03.24 19:45:00 - [239]
 

Originally by: Hous BinPharteen
Can the Sisters Epic Arc be redone for faction boost for the same faction? Or is it one time only per faction?


Hi Hous. That's a very good question.

Yes, the SoE arc can be completed every 3 months for just one specific Faction.

It doesn't matter how many times the arc is completed, the player will always get a choice towards the end of the arc to side with one of the four major Factions, either Amarr, Caldari, Gallente or Minmatar.

Good luck to you.

DMC

Hous BinPharteen
Caldari
Posted - 2011.03.24 20:01:00 - [240]
 

So if I choose say Gallente this time and get a faction boost. I can pick Gallente again in 90 days and get another faction boost? Its not a one time only for each faction?


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