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Posted - 2010.02.04 14:42:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: a newbie on 04/02/2010 15:05:57
Originally by: Nooblog
Dear CVA,

I am a former neutral citizen of Providence as of this evening. My alliance (which will remain anonymous) is moving on.

Your corporations which you have recruited are a waste of space and do nothing to defend your territory.

Rampant running and free roams of YARRRR!!UK +PetsYARRRR!!, AAA +Pets, the Russians in the Misaba area. Noir in TU and DAWGS Inc. in the 2V Pocket. Gentleman's Club with 30man + fleets on open roams. These pilots are well organized flying properly fitted T2 ships and camping major trade routes as well as obliterating well organized defense fleets.

You are WELL aware of these fleets, yet your pet corps are tasked to defend your space with inexperienced pilots flying T1 class battle cruisers and barely able to get enough numbers to defend. They're roaming with horrible fit ships without any CVA support, what-so-ever. They beg for numbers in the intel channels and post fleets. Largest fleet I've seen defend your space to date was an alliance who got 32 people (are you kidding?). Do you honestly expect the neutrals to stick around and continue making money for you with this kind of failure to respond?

Furthermore, the amount of spies in your intel channels are astounding. You have recent neutrals who left a red corp close to AAA+Pets, in your intel channels. How ignorant and arrogant can you be to think that you are safe in your space with all of your intel and pet corps compromised?

These pet corps are recruiting rookies and ex-reds in alarming numbers to bolster enough troops so they can continue making money to defend broken and empty promises made by you for "hopeful sovereignty". This brings in more fodder to throw at the well organized fleets with T2 ships.

The carrot on a stick is wearing thin on the good standing alliances in your space and I would expect that if they cannot begin to generate enough to support their corps soon, they will also bail on you. The people attempting to defend you and back you will leave and they openly discuss it in local channels.

Pilots who come to Providence, were lured here with the hopes of flying in NRDS space safely, are losing faith in you. You are no longer holding the "Mighty CVA" title you once had. Your capital fleets are for naught when your carrier pilots run for dock while ratting instead of taking these nuisances. I watched 3 carriers and 4 battleships with the <CVA> tag dock up in a station yesterday when a band of 6 came into system. All these red pilots were reported in sub heavy assault ships. What good are those ships if you aren't using them to defend your space or instill faith into your followers? How strong is an alliance in combat when it's pilots are too afraid to lose their ships, or take on a small fleet of bandits?

To the leaders of Providence, I wish you to listen to my words with care and read them as a cry of help for the remaining citizens of Providence. If you do not start organizing against the daily troubles occurring in your space, you'll lose against the neighboring powers due to lack in faith. You'll lose because fleets don't know how to work together. You will no longer have your fleets because your support will abandon you. I was there in D-G. I fought for your space without a ship replacement program. I fought to defend you, to defend the belief that CVA's goals and future was how I wanted to live out my time in New Eden. I and my alliance are moving on to seek other opportunities elsewhere. I hope your holy crusade is worth it and I bid you all farewell.

Regards,
An Alliance Looking For A New Home.



Thanks for this compliment. Slightly off the mark, but I am glad you think us worthy of such.

Althus Treefingers
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2010.02.04 20:12:00 - [32]
 

Quote:

You got the idea of providence completly wrong.

The alliances are not there to protect you. Your corp and alliance should have enough members to defend themselves. If they dont they shouldnt move to 0.0 at first place.

CVA provides free market and free acccess bu its not their duty to keep a fleet running around each time hostiles warp to your belt.


Hard to understand exactly what it is you're offering. CVA only has direct control over their own infrastructure, and the markets at their own stations. All policies outside their sovereignty would have to be enforced through fleet action.

So you're either failing to keep your promises (as the OP accuses) or your commitment to "Providence" only ever extended to the limits of CVA space.

But wait... you're not even successfully raising an army to defend your own space. 9UY will soon be back in Ushra'Khan hands (with barely a fight), and yet you mock your pets for their weakness.

You couldn't keep Providence blue before this; you can't imagine how dangerous it will be for you in the coming months.

We are here for our people!

Ralnik
Alpha Squad
Posted - 2010.02.04 20:58:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Nur AlHuda
You got the idea of providence completly wrong.

The alliances are not there to protect you. Your corp and alliance should have enough members to defend themselves. If they dont they shouldnt move to 0.0 at first place.

CVA provides free market and free acccess bu its not their duty to keep a fleet running around each time hostiles warp to your belt.

You were laughing at the number 32 members in fleet. Is your corp or alliance deploying more then that? And if you have more then you dont need to complain couse you are completly self sufficient.

From what i read you are very new and unexperienced. You need to hide your true indentity couse you are scared from some magical retribution from providence residents. Second you dont know how the system works and blame all otheres rether to look on your corp or alliance mistakes.

Eve is wonderful place and on

ce you learn the basics you will adapt.



This is why you are failing and why it is apparent that Providence is in the hands of failure, once it's been pressured a bit. CVA & Holders, IMO has put their selves in the role of a govt. As a govt CVA & Holders, should be providing defense of the space for it's renters and tax payers.

You may not want to call yourselves a govt, but that is essentially what you are doing as the controlling body of Providence. While your little worker bees did their part, by coming out in mass to dangerous space, paying their taxes, CVA & Holders didn't do their part.

To think your only responsibility, is to set up a market and provide docking space is laughable at best and a clear example as to why your pets are leaving in droves and have no loyality.

They have no loyalty to you, because you had no loyalty to them. You guys have clearly grown fat, lazy and just expected the ISK to keep flowing. It appears once a bit of pressure has been put on Providence it all starts to collapse rather fast.

TBH, I was extremely disappointed, when I first started making solo roams out to Providence, to see entire systems dock up the second a Red jumped in. This effectively allowed me to shut down entire systems, just by AFK cloaking with one ship and one pilot.

I realized then, that it wouldn't take much effort to make to take Providence down, before this I actually was under the misunderstanding that you guys were well organized.

Brother Jared
Amarr
Posted - 2010.02.05 20:30:00 - [34]
 

Taking a system and holding a system are two completely different things.

As always the terrorists of U'K and AAA show they can destroy but what will they build?

If the barbarians extinguish the light of civilisation, what will be left?

Neena Valdi
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2010.02.05 20:42:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Brother Jared
Taking a system and holding a system are two completely different things.

As always the terrorists of U'K and AAA show they can destroy but what will they build?

If the barbarians extinguish the light of civilisation, what will be left?



If slavery and dictatorship is a light of civilization we better live in darkness.

Razz

CONCORD OOC censor applied. Zymurgist

Stratio
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Damu'Khonde
Posted - 2010.02.06 03:41:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Brother Jared
what will be left?

That which is right ... freedom.

Ronan Le'Meurtrier
Posted - 2010.02.07 05:10:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Equinox Daedalus
train guns, lock open fire. Drakes with full Passive tank generally are not good for this.

CVA is not tasked at defending your isk growing. We are tasked in creating a place where people have the chance to live and learn and grow as individuals/corps/ and alliances.

The will of the weak often times shine through in the toughest of troubles.

Often times, not always, there are challenges that people either tuck tail and run from, or try to live up to the light that is expected from them.

You are obviously not the latter. Typical Gallente.


The only comment in response to a legitimate plea is, as expected, insult... an insult to save-face as you, yourself, cower in fear of the unknown near-future in full view of your equally complacent God. Your actions in conjunction with your words suggest weakness among the Amarrian race as there exists a contradiction at the very root of your faith.

Naturally, it is not explicitly stated by CVA that there exists an obligation to protect the citizens of Providence aside from 'Operation Deliverance' primary objective to "Enforce Amarrian law and bring an end to piracy in the Empire", though extensions of friendship should encompass, at least, a willingness to offer aid when it is requested of those considered as friends in times of prosperity, unless you're suggesting that the CVA both lacks the will and means to do so or that 'friends' only stands as a valid title in times of prosperity for the CVA.

Often times, not always, there are challenges that people either blindly refuse to adapt to and die because of, or choose to overcome prejudice to stand with honor in loyalty to friends in defense of shared beliefs, values and resources.

You will obviously not explore the latter. Typical CVA representative.


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