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michael weels
Gallente
Perpetual Motion Sickness
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:09:00 - [1]
 

Goons are evaccing to Syndicate, Delve is lost according to the SOTG recording .. Which quite frankly could of used some more rehearsing!
Wanna hear it? Go ahead .. You know you wanna .. ! :
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/1001/sotg.mp3

Good luck to ya Goons ..!

D'ceet
Caldari
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:15:00 - [2]
 

at least we (WIdot) fought(sorta) for our systems.

michael weels
Gallente
Perpetual Motion Sickness
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:17:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: D'ceet
at least we (WIdot) fought(sorta) for our systems.

I hate agree'ing from WI, but yeah, they loose some systems, and then that's it .. I mean .. ****, that's worse than even UFA, not to mention WIdot

McFly
Caldari
Peanut Factory
Good Sax
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:21:00 - [4]
 

kenny fought (ish) for what 3 months after haargoth? But from the recording I guess goons would rather abandon than lose. Kinda screwed up what I thought would have been the gooniest way to end delve III, goons leave. But with the loss of systems initiating their withdrawal it just doesn't have the same zing to it.

HelloKittyMasterBaitOre
Gallente
Trigrams Edge
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:25:00 - [5]
 

Kenny stopped fighting in June 2009, ofc it wasnt really a stop everyone knew they would be back, even the leaked remaining TS conversations proved that,..

Goons lasted 2 hours, BUT the main thing is they got 2 carriers,..

Hellfury Resurrected
Caldari
Incura
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:30:00 - [6]
 

Pretty sure you're all getting trolled.

Amayanna
Amarr
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:31:00 - [7]
 

gg

stevieisbest
Caldari
Pilots Of Honour
Aeternus.
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:38:00 - [8]
 

at least Kenzoku made an attempt to defend their space.

goons are running away with their little tails between their legs.

this just proves the goons can't do anything under any adversity

Seith Kali
Caldari
X-PERTS
Black Legion.
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:38:00 - [9]
 

if you dont want it, can i have delve?

Lovesync
Minmatar
GoonFleet
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:39:00 - [10]
 

Oh noes!

michael weels
Gallente
Perpetual Motion Sickness
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:41:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: HelloKittyMasterBaitOre
Kenny stopped fighting in June 2009, ofc it wasnt really a stop everyone knew they would be back, even the leaked remaining TS conversations proved that,..

Goons lasted 2 hours, BUT the main thing is they got 2 carriers,..

Oh yeah, they were so happy they exchanged 2 carrierkills for Delve .. gg Goons.

xeom
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:42:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: stevieisbest
at least Kenzoku made an attempt to defend their space.

goons are running away with their little tails between their legs.

this just proves the goons can't do anything under any adversity


Wait what?

stevieisbest
Caldari
Pilots Of Honour
Aeternus.
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:46:00 - [13]
 

well considering we fought over delve for a good while. compared to the OH SNAP RUN RUN RUN!!! that goons are doing. yea i'd say kenny at least tried

xeom
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:51:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: stevieisbest
well considering we fought over delve for a good while. compared to the OH SNAP RUN RUN RUN!!! that goons are doing. yea i'd say kenny at least tried


We

Nicholas Barker
Caldari
Deez Nuts.
Nut Up Or Shut Up.
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:52:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Nicholas Barker on 27/01/2010 03:53:26
Doesn't he actually say he'd rather lose their space this way, than lose it to the legitimate invasion we were going ahead with.

Lose it due to incompetence in management, rather than incompetence on the field.


http://www.emse.fr/~yukna/WOIf/worf.jpg
Please refrain from posting images.Applebabe

These are goons, they are without honour.

stevieisbest
Caldari
Pilots Of Honour
Aeternus.
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:53:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: stevieisbest on 27/01/2010 03:53:45
yes WE. considering i was part of EXE and that aeternus is a blue to BoB/Kenz/IT and fought in the last delve war

Tobruk
Caldari
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:59:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: stevieisbest
Edited by: stevieisbest on 27/01/2010 03:53:45
yes WE. considering i was part of EXE and that aeternus is a blue to BoB/Kenz/IT and fought in the last delve war


i bolded the funny part

stevieisbest
Caldari
Pilots Of Honour
Aeternus.
Posted - 2010.01.27 04:02:00 - [18]
 

i don't actually have to bold any of the funny stuff in your posts.

CCP already does that for me with PANDEMIC LEGION

w0rmy
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.01.27 04:07:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Tobruk
Quote:

PL's defence of Fountain


i bolded the funny part


I too bolded the funny bit.



Zeus Carver
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.27 04:11:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: stevieisbest
at least Kenzoku made an attempt to defend their space.

goons are running away with their little tails between their legs.

this just proves the goons can't do anything under any adversity


Kenny's heroic fight for Delve came in two ways. One was was to sit in PR-ison waiting for a breakout, while also running ~*wulfpack*~ gangs through NPC delve to lead a failed breakout op or to gank haulers. In both cases, we either upheld the camp or ignore them while our dreads continued tearing through BoB's old space over a period of a couple months uncontested even by super-friend AAA or the MC.

We hadn't even claimed sovereignty for a while due to the old mechanics that were still in play; remember that it took a week before each tower began counting toward sovereignty, towers were limited to five drops per day per alliance, and in many systems they came in sixes, elevens, or other n+1 totals.

But this is Dominion, and a year has passed. We lost. Welp!

HelloKittyMasterBaitOre
Gallente
Trigrams Edge
Posted - 2010.01.27 04:18:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Zeus Carver
Originally by: stevieisbest
at least Kenzoku made an attempt to defend their space.

goons are running away with their little tails between their legs.

this just proves the goons can't do anything under any adversity


Kenny's heroic fight for Delve came in two ways. One was was to sit in PR-ison waiting for a breakout, while also running ~*wulfpack*~ gangs through NPC delve to lead a failed breakout op or to gank haulers. In both cases, we either upheld the camp or ignore them while our dreads continued tearing through BoB's old space over a period of a couple months uncontested even by super-friend AAA or the MC.

We hadn't even claimed sovereignty for a while due to the old mechanics that were still in play; remember that it took a week before each tower began counting toward sovereignty, towers were limited to five drops per day per alliance, and in many systems they came in sixes, elevens, or other n+1 totals.

But this is Dominion, and a year has passed. We lost. Welp!


Less than 7 months of holding Delve and by your own foolish leadership, the ONLY reason you guys arent fighting is because PL are emo at you guys and NC are busy dying to Tri,..

Olloth Kenson
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2010.01.27 04:20:00 - [22]
 

a modest proposal is like 3 years old by now just thought I would let our spies know

Serj Darek
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.01.27 04:29:00 - [23]
 

I knew there would be a shakeup after the titan nerf, but I never would have thought it would be this bad.

Ath'daru
Minmatar
Jazz Associates
Imajiaca
Posted - 2010.01.27 04:40:00 - [24]
 

Too long didn't hear

Admiral Machiavelli
Caldari
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.27 04:49:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: HelloKittyMasterBaitOre
Originally by: Zeus Carver
Originally by: stevieisbest
at least Kenzoku made an attempt to defend their space.

goons are running away with their little tails between their legs.

this just proves the goons can't do anything under any adversity


Kenny's heroic fight for Delve came in two ways. One was was to sit in PR-ison waiting for a breakout, while also running ~*wulfpack*~ gangs through NPC delve to lead a failed breakout op or to gank haulers. In both cases, we either upheld the camp or ignore them while our dreads continued tearing through BoB's old space over a period of a couple months uncontested even by super-friend AAA or the MC.

We hadn't even claimed sovereignty for a while due to the old mechanics that were still in play; remember that it took a week before each tower began counting toward sovereignty, towers were limited to five drops per day per alliance, and in many systems they came in sixes, elevens, or other n+1 totals.

But this is Dominion, and a year has passed. We lost. Welp!


Less than 7 months of holding Delve and by your own foolish leadership, the ONLY reason you guys arent fighting is because PL are emo at you guys and NC are busy dying to Tri,..


If you actually bothered to listen to the recording, you'd know that the reason to pull out was instigated by the fact that we lost our staging stations in less than 24 hours.

Even though we have a majority of actual stations (something like 30 as opposed to what was once 42), the space that they occupy is terrible. We have no market hub, no jump network, and our cap fleet was largely locked down. If we defended, it would be doing so over a large area of poorly laid out space with diminished resources, solo, against multiple alliances. Because of the nature of sov mechanics right now, reclaiming what we had would be extremely difficult, and who knows how long it's going to be before CCP makes the necessary changes.

So, rather than commit to weeks or months of grinding attrition in a steadily worsening battle, Goons decided to cut their losses.

This is basic strategy. How this goes over your head, I don't even know.

Marlona Sky
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.01.27 04:54:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Admiral Machiavelli
...and who knows how long it's going to be before CCP makes the necessary changes.


Sorry, CCP can't fix stupidity.

"I would rather us lose Delve by our own hand than that of our enemies..."

I love how you try and spin this into some victory. BoB lost it due to treachery, Goons lost it due to stupidity. End of story.

Petar Quaresma
Caldari
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2010.01.27 04:57:00 - [27]
 

I guess Tri is upset because their Northern invasion success is pretty much all but over now that we'll likely provide a nice US timezone force. Sorry Tri, you'll have to slip back into irrelevance for a 10th time. Honestly, the idea of fighting Tri/Atlas is probably more interesting than staying in Delve and having IT/AAA avoid us in fleet fights every single day.

Han Lector
Amarr
Griefer-B-Gone
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2010.01.27 05:15:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Han Lector on 27/01/2010 05:15:50
Originally by: Admiral Machiavelli


solo, against multiple alliances




You know, you could always start a fight, have KIA, SOT, ZAF and Rebelion attack them from right, NC could shoot them from the left and you could batphone PL to jump in and stab them in the back while they are fighting everyone else. Just saying…

Twigand Berries
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.27 05:17:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: Admiral Machiavelli
...and who knows how long it's going to be before CCP makes the necessary changes.


Sorry, CCP can't fix stupidity.

"I would rather us lose Delve by our own hand than that of our enemies..."

I love how you try and spin this into some victory. BoB lost it due to treachery, Goons lost it due to stupidity. End of story.



Yup, pretty funny, isn't it?

Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.27 05:35:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Marlona Sky
I love how you try and spin this into some victory. BoB lost it due to treachery, Goons lost it due to stupidity. End of story.



How else do you think Goons would lose? We're terrible at this game. Cool


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