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baltec1
Posted - 2010.01.17 20:45:00 - [61]
 

Edited by: baltec1 on 17/01/2010 21:25:50
Gotta say. After playing it for a while I just dont see how it can be called an MMORPG. It simply has no RPG in it at all, the pve is not much better than in eve and the pvp sucks balls. It is also the most risk free game I have ever played. If you die you dont even have to start the mission again, it just continues from where you left off...

Its fun but Im not paying a monthy fee for a star trek freelancer. Oh and it seems their forums are not very secureRolling Eyes

Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
Perditus Peregrinus
Posted - 2010.01.18 10:34:00 - [62]
 

baltec I feel you. It's just a big singleplayer game with a few multiplayer options thrown in. Hell, there's more NPCs wandering around stations than there are players. That's gotta be a bad sign.

Anyway, I was reading through the STO forums and came across this thread. I somehow find it amusing that STO being released may actually be a boost to Eve subscribers ;D

AlleyKat
Gallente
The Unwanted.
Posted - 2010.01.18 13:49:00 - [63]
 

EVE Online: "The Universe is Yours"
Star Trek Online: "The incredibly scripted bubble you are in is not yours and never will be because of the Prime Directive"

I think that about sums it up. EVE is for dictators, STO is for followers.

AK

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.01.18 16:49:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
baltec I feel you. It's just a big singleplayer game with a few multiplayer options thrown in. Hell, there's more NPCs wandering around stations than there are players. That's gotta be a bad sign.

Anyway, I was reading through the STO forums and came across this thread. I somehow find it amusing that STO being released may actually be a boost to Eve subscribers ;D


Lulz are to be had in that thread:

"After playing this game throughout CB and into OB i have gone into depression due to the fact that i have been waiting for this game for 2+ years and it didn't deliver."

Predicting that this guy's EVE career will be hilariously brief...

necronarcosis
Eggz Enterprises
Posted - 2010.01.18 18:47:00 - [65]
 

what a waste of a good title.
ship control is useless, you cant go directly up or down, graphics look clunky and old. And the cream of the crop the groundside combat is simply laughable, what a way to ruin a truely fantastic name.

baltec1
Posted - 2010.01.18 22:18:00 - [66]
 

It looks like STO is converting more and more people to EVE...

So much for STO stealing eve subscriptionsLaughing

Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2010.01.18 22:30:00 - [67]
 

Ugh I'm not impressed so far, second day playing.

armas
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Posted - 2010.01.18 22:45:00 - [68]
 

I tried hard to like it, I love Star Trek. Played it over the last 5 days. I'm not giving Cryptic my money for that.

Tiberius Raeder
Caldari
Posted - 2010.01.18 23:53:00 - [69]
 

Well, I am in the OB and enjoying it quite a bit. I laugh at all the people ragging on STO based on less than a week of game play in a beta in which only @ 20% of the content is unlocked at the moment (the rest is unlocked this week). MMOs all take time to germinate into a good game, even EVE...it is head and shoulders above what it was when I started in 2006. I have faith STO will prosper as well...likely in a quicker fashion as well as they are going to have far more actual subcribers than EvE (as a niche) could ever hope to.

armas
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Posted - 2010.01.19 00:35:00 - [70]
 

You can't polish a turd.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2010.01.19 03:25:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: armas
You can't polish a turd.
Well its a good thing developers don't listen to the unwashed tro.. err masses as by all accounts eve was a ginormous turd when it was first released with pretty much zero content past the ability to mine in your noob ship and then lose it to someone in another noob ship that was armed and pointed instead of kitted out to mine. STO is a big ole carebear riskless pve oriented massively single player game and it will get droves of subs if the ingame chat is any indication as I quit listening to the 'opinions' of forum poasters regardless of the game loooooooong ago. ugh

tl;dr: If you like star trek and carebearing then sto is gonna make you a very happy camper which if wows subscription base is any indication it will be the next big thing in casual mmo's. Eve as usual will plug along with it jaded and hateful niche playerbase weeding out the new subs at a steady incrimental rate leaving only the strongest to resub for another month. YARRRR!!

armas
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Posted - 2010.01.19 03:42:00 - [72]
 

I have fond memories of Eve from June 2003, when I started. Though it was my first mmo so perhaps that clouded my judgement a little. I hope I'm wrong about STO, Star Trek deserves to be translated to a good mmo.


Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2010.01.19 03:53:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: armas
I have fond memories of Eve from June 2003, when I started. Though it was my first mmo so perhaps that clouded my judgement a little. I hope I'm wrong about STO, Star Trek deserves to be translated to a good mmo.


Early 2005 for me and yes eve has clouded mine and everyones judgement due to it simply being the best there is. That however doesn't mean that because sto isnt eve that its not a good game. Saying that, after exploring all the current content in the begginer zones in sto I am fairly satisfied with the experience so far and will probably sub up later this year when its not lulz overpriced at a AAA single player game price. $50 to get entry into a carebear mmo? Nahhhhh.. Razz

Midge Mo'yb
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.19 09:55:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: armas
You can't polish a turd.
Well its a good thing developers don't listen to the unwashed tro.. err masses as by all accounts eve was a ginormous turd when it was first released with pretty much zero content past the ability to mine in your noob ship and then lose it to someone in another noob ship that was armed and pointed instead of kitted out to mine. STO is a big ole carebear riskless pve oriented massively single player game and it will get droves of subs if the ingame chat is any indication as I quit listening to the 'opinions' of forum poasters regardless of the game loooooooong ago. ugh

tl;dr: If you like star trek and carebearing then sto is gonna make you a very happy camper which if wows subscription base is any indication it will be the next big thing in casual mmo's. Eve as usual will plug along with it jaded and hateful niche playerbase weeding out the new subs at a steady incrimental rate leaving only the strongest to resub for another month. YARRRR!!


diferent is, eve is a sandbox game, content is not required, the players generate that themselves, i have barely ever touched missions.

i mined, i kill peoples and take there stoof, occasionaly rat.

in sto (ive been playing it a week now...) is far too instanced for my liking every 20 feet you move theres a loading screen, and because of the instancing the "rp" is well, ****ed...

its SFC/BC with a subscription fee, and quite franklly its not worth a subscription fee, if it was F2P wit hmicrotransactions - which it is going to have along side the sub Rolling EyesRolling Eyes anyhow id buy it for the "need a break from eve time"..

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2010.01.19 10:28:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Midge Mo'yb
anyhow id buy it for the "need a break from eve time"..
Which is why I quit playing the beta(to save the content for later) and will now wait patiently for steam to offer it at 75% offish.

Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Posted - 2010.01.19 11:00:00 - [76]
 

Edited by: Kuolematon on 19/01/2010 11:08:32
Originally by: Actumarius
I'm gonna stick my neck out and say it...

The space combat is a lot of fun.

The content is very basic atm, but theyve got the basics right I think and this could develop well.

It is EVE? No, never will be.

Can you pick up and play for half hour without any worrys?

Yes. Something EVE will never be.


You are brave and I like it. Same reason why I like STO more than WoW/EVE. It's even more casual friendly than those two and beside, it's aweshume! It's STAR FREAKING TREK! My scientic officer looks like female spock :o

Drunk Driver
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.01.19 17:03:00 - [77]
 


I played again last night. I got some help understanding their missions/map setup. That allowed me to enjoy the game more. I actually had fun and didn't get sleepy or bored!

Laughing

STO is easy and forgiving. If you're suffering from Eve related combat fatigue you could switch to STO and do space battles on easy mode.

However I don't think STO will have long term appeal to players that want a real challenge.

Zirilia
Perkone
Posted - 2010.01.20 14:14:00 - [78]
 

Edited by: Zirilia on 20/01/2010 14:14:27
tryed it yesterday and so far i love it Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy

necronarcosis
Eggz Enterprises
Posted - 2010.01.20 22:31:00 - [79]
 

what utter crap, a space based game that, you cant move your ship freely, spiraling down or up to get to a target, If bridge commander can get it so right for the ship combat and its 5+ years old why cant they get it right. LAZY!!!

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2010.01.20 22:40:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: necronarcosis
what utter crap, a space based game that, you cant move your ship freely, spiraling down or up to get to a target, If bridge commander can get it so right for the ship combat and its 5+ years old why cant they get it right. LAZY!!!
Yeah I know! How dare the devs have a buggy and unoptimal set of game mechanics and movement controls on a beta release! MadMadMad

necronarcosis
Eggz Enterprises
Posted - 2010.01.20 23:02:00 - [81]
 

Edited by: necronarcosis on 20/01/2010 23:03:13
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: necronarcosis
what utter crap, a space based game that, you cant move your ship freely, spiraling down or up to get to a target, If bridge commander can get it so right for the ship combat and its 5+ years old why cant they get it right. LAZY!!!
Yeah I know! How dare the devs have a buggy and unoptimal set of game mechanics and movement controls on a beta release! MadMadMad


try not to be a muppet! the games devs have stated that the movement controls and lack of direct up down movement is by design.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2010.01.20 23:27:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: necronarcosis
Edited by: necronarcosis on 20/01/2010 23:03:13
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: necronarcosis
what utter crap, a space based game that, you cant move your ship freely, spiraling down or up to get to a target, If bridge commander can get it so right for the ship combat and its 5+ years old why cant they get it right. LAZY!!!
Yeah I know! How dare the devs have a buggy and unoptimal set of game mechanics and movement controls on a beta release! MadMadMad


try not to be a muppet! the games devs have stated that the movement controls and lack of direct up down movement is by design.
Yeah and they also said that they are still looking into if it was a wise design descision. Razz

Daphne Mezereum
Caldari
Posted - 2010.01.20 23:44:00 - [83]
 

It was not.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2010.01.20 23:55:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: Daphne Mezereum
It was not.
No argument from me about that though it really only effects the pvp side of the game and I'm completely uninterested in that part of it.

Johnny spacy
Caldari
Knights of the Old Code
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2010.01.21 20:44:00 - [85]
 

The mapping system doesnt have auto pilot, so going to do a quest in another sector is much harder to find!

Ive been playing since the 13th of Jan, I was disappointed that flying through space would be fun, but the system is hopeless. This game is more for Royal Trekkies.

I will just stick with eve as a royal eve freak! Cool


Wesley Hawkins
Minmatar
Malevolent Intentions
Dark Solar Empire
Posted - 2010.01.21 21:18:00 - [86]
 

Have to give them some credit tho..


....Had to be hard making space feel small.


And yes i know not all areas are open yet, but i also know the ships are about the scale of a toy model.

bonkerss
Gallente
NucleoTech
Posted - 2010.01.22 10:06:00 - [87]
 

STO is easy to get into and decent fun!
Alot of stuff still needs work, but I reckon it has potential.

Remember, this is still Beta, and hasnt even been released yet!
Its nowhere near EVE though! Its a shame CCP didnt develope it! WOuld have been Awesome!

Karma
Vortex Incorporated
Posted - 2010.01.22 12:00:00 - [88]
 

Edited by: Karma on 22/01/2010 14:46:32
Originally by: armas
You can't polish a turd.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI

TLDR: mythbusters says yes you can ;)

edit: furthermore... I rather like it. Mostly, I guess, because it reminds me a lot of Earth and Beyond.
but also because, as others have pointed out, it's not an MMORPG that will gobble up your life, like WoW or EVE tends to do. medium to light entertainment.

Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Posted - 2010.01.26 10:06:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: Karma
.. it's not an MMORPG that will gobble up your life, like WoW or EVE tends to do. medium to light entertainment.


Most of people bashing here are so called "hardcore nerds" that will sink happily hours and hours to their favorite ******* (whatever it's called, EVE or WoW) but when something *ALERT ALERT HI DEFENSIVE MODE ENABLED* casual comes along, they go nuts and screams how bad it is. Those who says that WoW is casual, for 1-79 levels it is but once you start playing WoW @ 80, it's far from casual if you want to be something other than blue geared quest poop.

And don't get me started with "EVE is casual too", it's not and you know it unless you live in deep inside denial cave or something.

So yeah, STO comes and will fill my need for casual sci-fi MMO. Already canceled WoW Wink

petlogger
Posted - 2010.01.26 10:19:00 - [90]
 

STO is to EVE, like a Pot Noodle is to a proper dinner. Quick, naughty and enjoyable but I wouldn't want one every meal.


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