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Mr JigglyMcWigglyboobs
Hello Kitty Adult Toys
Posted - 2010.01.09 22:44:00 - [1]
 

CCP Servers:

http://cyberelk.net/tim/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/bbcsandhp.jpg


Blizzard's Servers:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1291/997953862_656ca51475_o.jpg

* please refrain from posting image directly into thread. - CCP Ildoge

Best use that cash we pay you, for a STABLE game, for some new servers boys...instead of buying cigars...


RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2010.01.09 22:46:00 - [2]
 

blizzard cannot get anywhere near the numbers ccp get into the world at onceRolling Eyes

Icarus Starkiller
Forge Regional Security
Posted - 2010.01.09 22:47:00 - [3]
 

Top image: The back of my old spare parts closet and I'd like to know what you were doing in there.

Bottom image: One corner of a distributed array that could run my storage space for a few hours, at best.

The real reason Eve crashed: I tried to log in. They always have trouble trying to upload my ego.

Dani SP
Posted - 2010.01.09 22:47:00 - [4]
 

they spent all on the Jita server so contract spammers and market bots can do their business smoothly.

sorry no more ISK left

SirFur
Caldari Elite Force
Apocalypse Now.
Posted - 2010.01.09 22:48:00 - [5]
 

YEss - Blizzard has a max of 12k we had nearly 53k on earlier

necrosia demora
Posted - 2010.01.11 02:05:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: necrosia demora on 11/01/2010 02:06:05
Originally by: RaTTuS
blizzard cannot get anywhere near the numbers ccp get into the world at onceRolling Eyes


and your point is

Artassaut
Minmatar
Shadow Striders
Property Management Solutions
Posted - 2010.01.11 02:08:00 - [7]
 

Blizzard uses racks of PS3's to power their game? I thought the PS3 was released after WoW.

On another note, Warhawk is awesome.

mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
Posted - 2010.01.11 02:09:00 - [8]
 

CCP is currently using 3 GHZ Xeon blades, and a fully 64 bit system.

The server is cutting edge...

necrosia demora
Posted - 2010.01.11 02:13:00 - [9]
 

you use what you need. if ccp is having problems then they aint using what they obviously need. anyone got any idea if they are pushing their servors to the maxx. wouldnt surprise me if the penny pinchers cant handle much more on their servors

Artassaut
Minmatar
Shadow Striders
Property Management Solutions
Posted - 2010.01.11 02:16:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: necrosia demora
you use what you need. if ccp is having problems then they aint using what they obviously need. anyone got any idea if they are pushing their servors to the maxx. wouldnt surprise me if the penny pinchers cant handle much more on their servors

Their server resources are being spent spell-checking your message.

necrosia demora
Posted - 2010.01.11 02:21:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: necrosia demora on 11/01/2010 02:22:50
Edited by: necrosia demora on 11/01/2010 02:21:49
Originally by: Artassaut
Originally by: necrosia demora
you use what you need. if ccp is having problems then they aint using what they obviously need. anyone got any idea if they are pushing their servors to the maxx. wouldnt surprise me if the penny pinchers cant handle much more on their servors

Their server resources are being spent spell-checking your message.

ear is sum more four yew a*****e. i hope it crashes you out of the game at a pivital moment.

Artassaut
Minmatar
Shadow Striders
Property Management Solutions
Posted - 2010.01.11 02:23:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: necrosia demora
Edited by: necrosia demora on 11/01/2010 02:21:49
Originally by: Artassaut
Originally by: necrosia demora
you use what you need. if ccp is having problems then they aint using what they obviously need. anyone got any idea if they are pushing their servors to the maxx. wouldnt surprise me if the penny pinchers cant handle much more on their servors

Their server resources are being spent spell-checking your message.

ear is sum more four yew a*****e. i hope it crashes you out of the game at a pivital moment. you just made my re****s to kill list :)

Sure.

Good luck finding me.

Wet Ferret
Posted - 2010.01.11 02:41:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: SirFur
YEss - Blizzard has a max of 12k we had nearly 53k on earlier


And how many can fit on a single grid before the server explodes or the node dies? Bliz also hosts more than 50k players per battlegroup, which is about the equivalent of an EVE node afaik. I don't see much lag in a 120v120 fight in WoW, usually (it starts to get bad after a couple hundred on each side though). But god only knows the amount of money Bliz actually has to spend on servers.

Kazang
Wrecking Shots
Posted - 2010.01.11 02:47:00 - [14]
 

Pretty sure ccp's server hardware is best available. Unless im mistaken it's the most advanced mmo server cluster in the world.

MySQL databases going **** up is microsoft's fault, not ccp's.

But since your just trolling anyway im sure you don't care.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2010.01.11 02:52:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Kazang
MySQL databases going **** up is microsoft's fault, not ccp's.
/this

A dev even posted that this is what is causing the bulk of the server issues atm but noone knows how to fix it not even M$.ugh

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
Posted - 2010.01.11 03:08:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 11/01/2010 03:13:48
Originally by: necrosia demora
and your point is


that it's easy to get a stable server if you shard and instance everything, as well as discourage (proper) open world PvP.

Heck, stuff as many players are in your average 0.0 lagfest into a capital city fight in WoW and I bet their servers would handle it far, far worse

Voogru
Gallente
Massive Damage
We Are John Galt
Posted - 2010.01.11 04:19:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Kazang
Pretty sure ccp's server hardware is best available. Unless im mistaken it's the most advanced mmo server cluster in the world.

MySQL databases going **** up is microsoft's fault, not ccp's.

But since your just trolling anyway im sure you don't care.


MySQL is a Microsoft product? News to me.

TheOneWhoCannotFly
Amarr
Posted - 2010.01.11 04:55:00 - [18]
 

CCP wins! Their servers have monitors.

Forranz
Malice.
Tentative Nature
Posted - 2010.01.11 05:27:00 - [19]
 

I remember being unable to play on high pop servers due to the *massive lag*. CCP > Wow.

Zartanic
Posted - 2010.01.11 05:35:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Zartanic on 11/01/2010 05:47:41
Edited by: Zartanic on 11/01/2010 05:36:16
WOW has a totally different server system as it is split over many realms. Also they shut down areas of the game and 'instance not available come back later sucker' is common especially when they have new content. The cross server battlegrounds took months and months to fix. World PVP is discouraged (by over zealous guards) as any more than a few each side and its a lag fest.

The fact is our expectations are too far ahead of current technology. Money does not solve everything.

If you want it better you will have to restrict ship numbers to about 100 and have instancing.

Iture
Caldari
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.01.11 05:38:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Wet Ferret
Originally by: SirFur
YEss - Blizzard has a max of 12k we had nearly 53k on earlier


And how many can fit on a single grid before the server explodes or the node dies? Bliz also hosts more than 50k players per battlegroup, which is about the equivalent of an EVE node afaik. I don't see much lag in a 120v120 fight in WoW, usually (it starts to get bad after a couple hundred on each side though). But god only knows the amount of money Bliz actually has to spend on servers.


well, the largest number i've ever seen on grid was when bob was still bob, and that was about 400 each side i'd say. And the game was still very playable.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.01.11 05:40:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Kazang
MySQL databases going **** up is microsoft's fault, not ccp's.
1. What does that have to do with EVE?
2. Are you suggesting that MS is hacking into MySQL servers around the world and nuking them, or are you suggesting that they've infiltrated MySQL and fed them buggy code?

SeismicForce
Terra Incognita
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2010.01.11 16:44:00 - [23]
 

You could have the best servers in the world, if your software is faulty they won't run properly. Dominion screwed something up, as before the patch large fleet fights were playable (and lag generally was much less). I'm sure they'll get it fixed soon though.

Wurzel Gummidge
Posted - 2010.01.11 16:49:00 - [24]
 

Someone's been letting the crows eat the server's turnips. I feel my services are needed there.

cyclobs
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.01.11 16:53:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: cyclobs on 11/01/2010 16:53:14
if wow servers got a taste of what the poor eve server has to live through they would instantly catch fire and cause a nuclear explosion.

take your WoW crap else where

Welikealts
Posted - 2010.01.11 17:26:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 11/01/2010 03:13:48
Originally by: necrosia demora
and your point is


that it's easy to get a stable server if you shard and instance everything, as well as discourage (proper) open world PvP.

Heck, stuff as many players are in your average 0.0 lagfest into a capital city fight in WoW and I bet their servers would handle it far, far worse


Confirming, WoW's open-space, non-instanced battleground had to be limited to 240 players at once to prevent the server from entering into a reboot cycle.

ragewind
Caldari
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
Posted - 2010.01.11 17:30:00 - [27]
 

god thses thread are realy stupid go learn about networking and you would soon understand that the amount of conections that eve has to its servers is proberly unmached.

and yes soft wear is part of the procses and its codeing can help or hinder the procese but when systems have 700+ conections established and then another 700 jumpin/conect to it its going to stree any hardware even more so when the eve server run more than one system

Arimus Darkhart
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2010.01.11 22:39:00 - [28]
 

I'll take the beeb's - atleast they came without the MS tax and you could do some pretty (for those days) good stuff with them, and they gave alot of people in the UK a good start into computers....


Vossejongk
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.01.12 19:23:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Kazang
MySQL databases going **** up is microsoft's fault, not ccp's.
/this

A dev even posted that this is what is causing the bulk of the server issues atm but noone knows how to fix it not even M$.ugh


http://www.lolblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/doublefacepalm.jpg

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2010.01.12 19:29:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Vossejongk
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Kazang
MySQL databases going **** up is microsoft's fault, not ccp's.
/this

A dev even posted that this is what is causing the bulk of the server issues atm but noone knows how to fix it not even M$.ugh


http://www.lolblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/doublefacepalm.jpg
Well whatever brand of database they are using it still doesn't change the fact that the devs have stated it is randomly messing up eve and they don't know why. FFS you guys go all nerdrage over the smallest confusion of a name. mysql, m$sql whothefukcaressql.. Laughing


 

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