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JureZlak
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.12.28 11:10:00 - [1]
 

I heard, from a good source that Red Alliance and Atlas are blue from today on. Is this true, can anybody confirm this???Shocked

Bapp
Amarr
Warriors tribe
DarkSide.
Posted - 2009.12.28 11:11:00 - [2]
 

Yep.

Anikadir
Minmatar
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2009.12.28 11:19:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: JureZlak
I heard, from a good source that Red Alliance and Atlas are blue from today on. Is this true, can anybody confirm this???Shocked


If it's a good source, why do you need confirmation? Isn't that saying something bad against said source? Shocked

JureZlak
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.12.28 11:27:00 - [4]
 

Well, on this matter the only good source would be an Atlas source, and as my source is not from Atlas i would rather have a confirmation.

Ceirah
Gallente
SniggWaffe
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.12.28 11:36:00 - [5]
 

From CAOD? Sad

Adeptus mecanicus
Caldari
The Flaming Sideburn's
Art of War Alliance
Posted - 2009.12.28 11:37:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Adeptus mecanicus on 28/12/2009 12:03:29
well its the holliday season so they might have meet under a mistletoe Wink
tho considering RA and ATLAS i bet they have some deal going on to tie the knot on a NAP, maybe RA will get some of their old space back and thus becoming a buffer to the north and freeing ATLAS from maintaining those regionsCool

Edit: spellingRazz

JureZlak
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.12.28 11:46:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: JureZlak on 28/12/2009 11:47:39
Originally by: Ceirah
From CAOD? Sad

Never read that crap...ugh

The info was on a forum of a big alliance, blue to Red Alliance.

Sator deHarak
Caldari
Templars of Space
Posted - 2009.12.28 12:12:00 - [8]
 

Wait, The Big Blue declared war on Red alliance?!

Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
Troll Hunters INC.
Posted - 2009.12.28 17:29:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 28/12/2009 17:32:22
Just look out RA:

"tegnap az RA neut volt és az op idején nem volt szabad neutra lőni..... Bobby azt mondta hogy az op után ,ha élünk még akkor lehet hogy őket is szétlőjük.......a red nem barátunk, csak most épp közös az ellenség, de azért mindketten vigyázunk a hátunkra és keressük a Kést a másik kezében.....ami előbb-utóbb előkerül
A solar miatt tettünk engedményeket a red felé."

A TASE member wrote from Atlas Alliance to HU CAOD forum. His name is Kinizsi.

http://www.eve-online.hu/modules.php?name=Forums&file=posting&mode=quote&p=24590

My english is terrible, but i try to translate for you:

"RA was neutral yesterday and we got a direct order not enabled shot to neutral. Bobby told after operation if we alive the battles, we could shot the RA too. RA not friend for us we just had common enemies. we take care of our back and we looking for the knife the other one hand, which is turns up sooner or later.
We just give blue standing to RA because Solar Fleet and because the enemies strenght it's too big."

So i just remember the RA members and CEO.
Atlas Alliance many times betrayed blue corps or alliances.
Now RA will lost his last friends and when the times coming the Atlas will backstabed them.

Derek Chu
Caldari
VLADIVOSTOK
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2009.12.28 17:35:00 - [10]
 

Well Red Alliance agreeing to the NAP is like they sold their souls to the Devil.

German Giggles,
Derek Chu

Nostradamous
Caldari
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas.
Posted - 2009.12.28 17:43:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Tiger's Spirit
So i just remember the RA members and CEO.
Atlas Alliance many times betrayed blue corps or alliances.
Now RA will lost his last friends and when the times coming the Atlas will backstabed them.


Might just be me, but I'm pretty sure other then that one post (which apparently made up your mind) you probably know next to nothing about what atlas has or has not done in the past, and just in case you didn't know, no "real" information ends up on caod... ugh

Hun Jakuza
Minmatar
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2009.12.28 17:49:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Hun Jakuza on 28/12/2009 17:57:17
Originally by: Nostradamous
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit
So i just remember the RA members and CEO.
Atlas Alliance many times betrayed blue corps or alliances.
Now RA will lost his last friends and when the times coming the Atlas will backstabed them.


Might just be me, but I'm pretty sure other then that one post (which apparently made up your mind) you probably know next to nothing about what atlas has or has not done in the past, and just in case you didn't know, no "real" information ends up on caod... ugh


Shhhhhh.
Do you remember Aggro ? When they build up their outpost, Atlas instantly remove blue and attacked them. Do you remember how attacked Atlas his blue friend Hun Reloaded,when Hun Reloaded fought against SOT and Noir. ?

http://ppp.vidin.hu/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5141
http://ppp.vidin.hu/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5147
http://ppp.vidin.hu/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5139

Just see related kills.

We knowns "real" things, and knows Atlas.

Graalum
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.12.28 17:52:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Hun Jakuza
Originally by: Nostradamous
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit
So i just remember the RA members and CEO.
Atlas Alliance many times betrayed blue corps or alliances.
Now RA will lost his last friends and when the times coming the Atlas will backstabed them.


Might just be me, but I'm pretty sure other then that one post (which apparently made up your mind) you probably know next to nothing about what atlas has or has not done in the past, and just in case you didn't know, no "real" information ends up on caod... ugh


Shhhhhh.
Remember Aggro ? When they build up their outpost, Atlas instantly remove blue and attacked them.
We knowns "real" things, and knows Atlas.


aggro were ****ing atrocious, and we never attacked them, they failcascaded on the mere hypothetical threat of us sending roaming gangs into their space

Karbowiak
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.12.28 17:57:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Karbowiak on 28/12/2009 17:58:00
Originally by: Hun Jakuza
Originally by: Nostradamous
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit
So i just remember the RA members and CEO.
Atlas Alliance many times betrayed blue corps or alliances.
Now RA will lost his last friends and when the times coming the Atlas will backstabed them.


Might just be me, but I'm pretty sure other then that one post (which apparently made up your mind) you probably know next to nothing about what atlas has or has not done in the past, and just in case you didn't know, no "real" information ends up on caod... ugh


Shhhhhh.
Remember Aggro ? When they build up their outpost, Atlas instantly remove blue and attacked them.
We knowns "real" things, and knows Atlas.


Instantly? nope - took a bit longer than that - the reason Aggression. was reset, was because Aggression. was terrible at everything.
FCs couldn't figure out how to do the most simple things (Except Snake, but he was incapacitated bout 1˝ month into it all and only took care of leadership stuff after that) - plus Bobby never liked any of the leadership in Aggression.

Nor did anyone in Aggression. really like Atlas.
Plus Aggression. was so fail, the fleets sucked - participation was horrible - capital fleets was none existant.

It was just fail all over, thats why Aggression. was reset.

edit://
and i was in Aggression. Confused

Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
Troll Hunters INC.
Posted - 2009.12.28 18:08:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 28/12/2009 18:12:27
Originally by: Karbowiak
... Confused


Realy ? The point it is >

"RA was neutral yesterday and we got a direct order not enabled shot to neutral. Bobby told after operation if we alive the battles, we could shot the RA too. RA not friend for us we just had common enemies. we take care of our back and we looking for the knife the other one hand, which is turns up sooner or later.
We just give blue standing to RA because Solar Fleet and because the enemies strenght it's too big."


And other thing.
Aggro fought with Atlas. Atlas backstabbed them or not? Why ? Because thier fleet was not too strong ? Nice alibi.
When needed help was blue, when not needed help just reset their standing and starting shot them. Why not give the Aggro free move from territory ? Because they want to shot them. No respect if someone help for Atlas ? This will happen with RA when their power will decrease there ?
Yes Atlas will reset their standing and looking the times how could be betraying them.

Yarik Mendel
Amarr
Red Horizon Inc
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2009.12.28 18:45:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Hun Jakuza
Do you remember Aggro ? When they build up their outpost, Atlas instantly remove blue and attacked them.


What a nice coincidence, I had a talk withs someone today about Atlas doing this.

Kraken Kill
Caldari
Menace ll Society
Posted - 2009.12.28 23:15:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Tiger's Spirit
Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 28/12/2009 18:12:27
Originally by: Karbowiak
... Confused


And other thing.
Aggro fought with Atlas. Atlas backstabbed them or not? Why ? Because thier fleet was not too strong ? Nice alibi.
When needed help was blue, when not needed help just reset their standing and starting shot them. Why not give the Aggro free move from territory ? Because they want to shot them. No respect if someone help for Atlas ? This will happen with RA when their power will decrease there ?
Yes Atlas will reset their standing and looking the times how could be betraying them.


Aggro never fought with Atlas. Atlas helped Aggro take Insmother. Aggro couldnt even take 1 station system when UNL put up a bit of resistance.
After Atlas took the brunt of the fighting Atlas asked Aggro to assist in Detorid.

I kid you not- Aggro said they had to rat to pay for the fuel in their POS so they couldnt help us.
They then had the thieft of 5b or whatever it was a week later in that leaked TS recording showing that they infact did have isk to fuel their towers so they could have helped us on our op.

They then started *****ing at bobby on TS a few days later and bobby reset them. All of Atlas leadership and FCs already were screaming at bobby to reset them up to this as they were so terrible.

The day after we reset aggro to neutral they instantly left all their space. We didnt attack them at all and aggro never fought with us. They had the mentality of - if we dont help anyone or attack anyone no one will bother to attack us. That was their official policy. Terrible.

This SOT/hun reloaded crap someone else said, Atlas has never been involved with any of those people. Linking a random low sec killboard fight with a few random atlas ships doesnt really mean much.

god some of you people in your terrible little low sec alliances are as bad as aggro with your terirble storys of how you wish you were good and how its someone elses fault you are terrible.

flashbang2277
Caldari
The Ankou
Raiden.
Posted - 2009.12.28 23:22:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Kraken Kill
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit
Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 28/12/2009 18:12:27
Originally by: Karbowiak
... Confused


And other thing.
Aggro fought with Atlas. Atlas backstabbed them or not? Why ? Because thier fleet was not too strong ? Nice alibi.
When needed help was blue, when not needed help just reset their standing and starting shot them. Why not give the Aggro free move from territory ? Because they want to shot them. No respect if someone help for Atlas ? This will happen with RA when their power will decrease there ?
Yes Atlas will reset their standing and looking the times how could be betraying them.


Aggro never fought with Atlas. Atlas helped Aggro take Insmother. Aggro couldnt even take 1 station system when UNL put up a bit of resistance.
After Atlas took the brunt of the fighting Atlas asked Aggro to assist in Detorid.

I kid you not- Aggro said they had to rat to pay for the fuel in their POS so they couldnt help us.
They then had the thieft of 5b or whatever it was a week later in that leaked TS recording showing that they infact did have isk to fuel their towers so they could have helped us on our op.

They then started *****ing at bobby on TS a few days later and bobby reset them. All of Atlas leadership and FCs already were screaming at bobby to reset them up to this as they were so terrible.

The day after we reset aggro to neutral they instantly left all their space. We didnt attack them at all and aggro never fought with us. They had the mentality of - if we dont help anyone or attack anyone no one will bother to attack us. That was their official policy. Terrible.

This SOT/hun reloaded crap someone else said, Atlas has never been involved with any of those people. Linking a random low sec killboard fight with a few random atlas ships doesnt really mean much.

god some of you people in your terrible little low sec alliances are as bad as aggro with your terirble storys of how you wish you were good and how its someone elses fault you are terrible.


i like this guy Cool

Meddermon
Caldari
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
Merciless.
Posted - 2009.12.28 23:50:00 - [19]
 

You sir don't trust your good source as would I, but ask for conformation in CAOD is superb.

Ardetia
Caldari
Killer Koalas
Posted - 2009.12.29 00:56:00 - [20]
 

well if all the neighbourly friends of atlas make backchannel deals to incapacitate atlas if one of them is attacked,
problem solves itself...

Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2009.12.29 04:09:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Garia666 on 29/12/2009 04:55:06
Well your source was half right.. they have temp docking rights in insmother. i dont know for sure about temp blue standings..

Daemon Xel
Caldari
Woopatang
Primary.
Posted - 2009.12.29 05:29:00 - [22]
 

Believe the exact statement was that ra has temp rights to dock in insmother, stay out of thier way and they will not blow you up.

Avernus
Gallente
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2009.12.29 05:34:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Ardetia
well if all the neighbourly friends of atlas make backchannel deals to incapacitate atlas if one of them is attacked,
problem solves itself...

Sounds like a surefire formula for massive drama tbh. Friends come and go for a whole variety of reasons, and on occasion some partings are harsh in nature. Aside from that, say your thought was turning into reality, how long do you think it would take for one friend, with actual loyalty towards Atlas, to first be approached by another neighbour, consider the whole proposal to be complete bull****, and promptly lets Atlas leadership know what is going on.

Would anyone care to wager how quickly and violently Atlas (or any major alliance for that matter) would respond towards the potential backstabbing little prick alliance?

You are right about one thing, your solution does solve a problem. It seperates real friends from the ones that provide lip service.

Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
Troll Hunters INC.
Posted - 2009.12.29 06:44:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 29/12/2009 07:12:03
Originally by: flashbang2277
Aggro never fought with Atlas.



Lying:

http://killboard.atlas-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=76990
http://killboard.atlas-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=76913
http://killboard.atlas-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=76391

Was blue and fought with Atlas.
How much killmail need more ?

You told:

"This SOT/hun reloaded crap someone else said, Atlas has never been involved with any of those people."

Another lie: Easy to say > never involved , but there the killmail links, and i feel harsh words "HUN crap".
This words tell everything from Atlas how they thinking from their blue standing.
And other thing, i spoke too with those pilots too, and HUN and other "crap" with your words was very angry because Atlas betrayed them.

And other from Hungarian CAOD: "hiába jössz az AGGRO-val.... de felsorolhattál volna legalább 5 másik entitást akit hasonló módon mészároltunk le a hasznavehetetlenségük miatt."

Dont talk about Aggro, we killed at least 5 entity as AGGRO.
Because they was weak alies for Atlas.

THIS IS ATLAS!!!!!

Just smarm to AAA because AAA have enough power to fight against everyone, but Atlas kill the small blue allies from behind.
So, i just telling to small entities and RA, never trust Atlas.

JureZlak
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.12.29 08:01:00 - [25]
 

Well i got my answer last night in insmother, when 200+ RA fleet showed up in C-J and people started to panic for no reason, even after Bobby was telling them not to engage. As i understand it, there is no blue standings set, only a temporary ceasefire. And anyways, Atlas buisness is non of our (renters) buisness and if u are smart you won't argue with bobby and his pilots. That will be best for everyone (except for their enemy).


Sephiroth CloneIIV
Gallente
Rim Worlds Republic
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2009.12.29 08:13:00 - [26]
 

This seems to make sense being that they are both invading geminite, but I wonder what this means for other people blue to red alliance.

Systems changing hands means more good contracts :D, though... have to be blue to whoever owns the station to make the deal.


Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
Troll Hunters INC.
Posted - 2009.12.29 08:14:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 29/12/2009 08:16:00
Originally by: JureZlak
Well i got my answer last night in insmother, when 200+ RA fleet showed up in C-J and people started to panic for no reason, even after Bobby was telling them not to engage. As i understand it, there is no blue standings set, only a temporary ceasefire. And anyways, Atlas buisness is non of our (renters) buisness and if u are smart you won't argue with bobby and his pilots. That will be best for everyone (except for their enemy).




big-big laugh.
Everyone affraid from Bobby except Jockey.
Man it is not Dallas the satirical film , and no one affraid from Bobby.
But the truth is truth, never trust for Atlas, if you are enough smart.

Pudgy McFudge
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.12.29 08:14:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: JureZlak
Well i got my answer last night in insmother, when 200+ RA fleet showed up in C-J and people started to panic for no reason, even after Bobby was telling them not to engage. As i understand it, there is no blue standings set, only a temporary ceasefire. And anyways, Atlas buisness is non of our (renters) buisness and if u are smart you won't argue with bobby and his pilots. That will be best for everyone (except for their enemy).




You log in to grovel and keep your head down.

JureZlak
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.12.29 08:28:00 - [29]
 

We don't grovel we just don't ask stupid questions. For now we are friends with Atlas and we help them if we can, even if that means not to ask questions when an order is given. Everyone can do what you think is best for your corp/alliance, we will defend our systems to the last pilot flying.

And as for Pudgy McFudge.... goons will be goons i have no comment on your point of views.

Pudgy McFudge
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.12.29 08:31:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: JureZlak
i have no comment on your point of views.


Originally by: JureZlak
We don't grovel we just don't ask stupid questions.


You're an idiot as well as a lap dog.


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