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Natasha Bonnet
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:22:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Natasha Bonnet on 16/12/2009 18:43:11
Edited by: Natasha Bonnet on 16/12/2009 00:19:58
700+ in local, even numbers. No one had outblobed the other. Looked like it was going to be a good fight. Altas and her allies had a WI system in current possession, and NC moved in to take it back (more for just haveing a fun and even fight).

Atlas held the field and had all the gates were camped waiting for hostiles to jump in. And the hostilies did jump in. Altas hardly lost a soul and NC lost every fleet from each allaince that participated. HOORAY for altas, right? They had some brilliant FCing and made excellent calls to screw the NC fleet.... right?

Well, that is what ccp would like to hear... cause a 40 minute 'my grid didnt load' is something they would like to delete and pretend doesnt happen. Btw, that is EXACTLY what happend. CCP decides 'lets make big battles happen in 0.0 and keep it from being boring.' And they come with a brilliant game mechanic that does just that. But (and this isnt news to anyone) why did they decide to do this when the SERVER CANNOT SUSTAIN MORE THAN 400 ppl in local??

So what ends up happening is that billions of isk are lost due to a fleet WANTING TO ENGAGE a enemy fleet for sov (win for ccp, woot)- but then the fleet jumping in gets wiped out before their ship even loads.

Personnaly, i like to pay for this game and watch the backround of space for 40 MINUTES while i watch the shields go, armor, then structor go. Makes me want to pay for this game month in and out. [sarcastic]

So there you have it. Altas wins, thanks to ccp. You will see more and more battles being fought by SMALL roaming fleets and 2 LARGE fleets sitting on a gate waiting to see who is more brave to jump. Or while smack is being talked in local cause no one is stupid enough (hopefully not now anyways) to jump into a lagged up local. And for a expansion that focuses in 0.0- wasnt the #1 goal to have LARGE ROAMING fleets lay waste to empires??? So if a large fleet cannot engange a hostil large fleet, then this expansion is a failure and crap like this will continue to happen.

Congrats to Altas for being prepared (camping gates takes alot of strategy you know, ppl). And as for NC- koodos for having the balls to jumps in [im sure CCP is appethetic towards you and will not reinburse your ships cause they most likely dont care], and i hope your not stupid enough to do it again.

BTW CCP, great trialer. I wish 0.0 pvp was actually like that.

Tira Mitzu
Gallente
Sphere Industries
V0RTEX.
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:25:00 - [2]
 

FIRST!
rly was first to get back to TVN in a Pod, with implants..

Venetian Tar
Caldari
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:26:00 - [3]
 

This is Eve.

Welcome?

Jao'Jui
Gallente
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:28:00 - [4]
 

I fully agree to the above statement. CCP should either stop making new players happy with trailers that will never happen in that way, or fix the damn servers so they can actually sustain such fights.


Guardian Decsendent
Caldari
ROMANIA Renegades
ROMANIAN-LEGION
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:28:00 - [5]
 

we can't fight without ccp on our side ...
nice Btlr btw

Lynn de'Marco
Gallente
Divine Power.
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:28:00 - [6]
 

worst lag i've seen in a long time.

eventually gave up, logged out. spent 20 minutes "entering game as lynn de'marco"

logged in an alt on to find, in corp losses, lynn had her ship blown up 2 minutes ago :(

Ace Frehley
Minmatar
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:31:00 - [7]
 

Wanted to die, left dissepointed Crying or Very sad

Czech Lion
Minmatar
Ethereal Dawn 24
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:31:00 - [8]
 

I died there, so sad day for me and eve Confused

Anyways most of our fleet couldnt lock anything so both side had **** on their hands to deal with. Plus instead of jumping, you could have bridged in, your choice.

Yoshiitsune
Caldari
Fat J
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:31:00 - [9]
 

I should post first page or something lame like that but based on the lagfest I just tried to be part of-I will end up on the 4th or 5th page.

Dominion FTW!

D'ceet
Caldari
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:33:00 - [10]
 

terrible lag, thanks atlas for bringin' it.

Serotta Ortot
Minmatar
No.Mercy
Merciless.
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:33:00 - [11]
 

Died without even getting grid loaded Sad CCP, buy more hamsters!! I though Dominion would bring me 'Dragon Fleet' to 'burn them all!'... Brought me no grid and ship+clone loss so far...

23:25:19 Info Petition has been created successfully.

Let's see if their server cluster shows no logs (as usual)Shocked

Jinn Kast
Caldari
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:34:00 - [12]
 

Cry more , Cry more

*starts selling tissues*

Orkasm
Minmatar
The Remnant Legion.
The Remnant Legion
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:34:00 - [13]
 

+1 Come back for another round atlas your always welcome but next time;

CCP Fail Less

TimMc
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:34:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Natasha Bonnet
BTW CCP, great trialer. I wish 0.0 pvp was actually like that.


Pretty much. Half fleet stuck loading grid, other half unable to lock. GG CCP. Altas must have felt like they were slowly shooting fish in a barrel.

Cleat
Minmatar
Menace ll Society
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:35:00 - [15]
 

fight screenshot


So Atlas Moved about 230 to Geminate where we RFed some Tech moons in hopes of getting a fight.

We then anchored some SBUs in a station system in the hope of getting a fight.

3 hours later finally the NC turned up. Atlas and friends had 300, NC and friends had 500. 200 WI, 100+ majesta, Rzr, MM + others.

They jump 500 into 300... through 1 small gate.

They all die.

Atlas cheered and now is really hungry after waiting 3 hours for the NC to form up and then 2 hours of combat involved with horrible lag.

Renters in the Geminate Area have contacted Atlas today about assisting and paying thier rent fees to atlas.

Ekantrike
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:36:00 - [16]
 

Same here.

It was going ok for me. I warped out then warped to safespot to heal a little more. Then Game crashes. Then i try log in. Guess what. "Entering game as Ekantrike" nothing more it took almost 30min before i loaded all in. Finding myself in a pod in my station......


WTF! CCP!

Daniel Avenger
Caldari
THE IRIS
Pandorum Invictus
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:36:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Serotta Ortot
Died without even getting grid loaded Sad CCP, buy more hamsters!! I though Dominion would bring me 'Dragon Fleet' to 'burn them all!'... Brought me no grid and ship+clone loss so far...

23:25:19 Info Petition has been created successfully.

Let's see if their server cluster shows no logs (as usual)Shocked


CCP doesnt even have 700 people in thier logs....

"If we hide the logs under the carpet, non of it ever happened!"

666Lucifer666
Caldari
The Ankou
Raiden.
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:36:00 - [18]
 

Well can't say i even got to get to jump in to the lagg fest. Do to the failure of the Titan bug and not being able to use the bridge. So i was forced to use the JB network only to be stuck in bwf/rlsi gate for about 25 min. Till i decided to logg off. Id like the time i spent thinking if this is worth it back.

Terror Rising
Minmatar
Wrecking Shots
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:36:00 - [19]
 

On a side note .. Did you see that new trailer for the planet graphics .. wow! Now we have something to look at as your fleet dies around you with no way of shooting .. Priorities CCP, Priorities.

Tomcat
Gallente
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:36:00 - [20]
 

WI + whoever made it through that gate with us got owned and its our own fault.

See you next time Atlas and well done.

Joao Duarte
Minmatar
Selflessness
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:37:00 - [21]
 

It's really a shame, this could have been an awesome fight. I wish I could congratulate Atlas for a great win.
Why create such a great game to end up screwing it up so badly?

Hurray for nice trailers. Try making a playable game next time.
I'll reconsider whether I should keep my 3 accounts in this game.

Iasius
Gallente
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:37:00 - [22]
 

Firstly I am not saying ATLAS need lag to win.

I did manage to load my Brutix on grid after jump in. Armor down to 50% but i managed to MWD out of bubbles and warp out. All that fair game so far. I repped armor and warped back into the fight eager and willing. But the grid just froze for me. And at some point being undead i was ded'ed.

Good chance ATLAS would have killed me after my 2nd entrance to the fray. Good chance i could have got some kills. But i was killed by lag so who knows.

I will get another ship for another encounter my enthusiasm for the cause still burning bright. Just don't want to die to lag mkay!

Natasha Bonnet
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:39:00 - [23]
 

I am simply a nuetral observer. I dont stand for either side. The point of the post is that NC should NOT have to bridge in to 'lessen' lag (oh my bad, not lag- cause if it was JUST lag.... we could see ships.) Also keep in mind that even though you cannot lock the ship, that same ship will be dead and the pilot poded before the grid wakes up. And also keep in mind that the trailer shows a large fleet jumping into local 'man, there are alot of hostiles in local' (quote from trailer) and a epic battle being fought at the gate.

How accurate is this?

Btw, i havent heard a word on CCP saying anything about fixing this particular issue at all. And the big delma is that dominion is DESIGNED for LARGE fleet vs fleet combat. FYI large fleet JUMPING into a HOSTILE large fleet and pew pewing for the system. If this simple mechanic doesnt work- then sov takeing will become 'hurry and fill local with 1000+ blues until we have sov'. And how fun will the 0.0 game be then?

Also just a reminder- they took away the AOE Doomsday. So the wiping out of thousands is now over for...... one fleet haveing clr shots at a jumping in hostile fleets? They both seem to serve the same purpose. 'Clearing out local easily'

Viantha
Caldari
To Kill With Intent
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:39:00 - [24]
 

spent most of the battle reloading my guns :( next time im flying amarr ships

Sanadis
Gallente
Sphere Industries
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:39:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Cleat
fight screenshot


So Atlas Moved about 230 to Geminate where we RFed some Tech moons in hopes of getting a fight.

We then anchored some SBUs in a station system in the hope of getting a fight.

3 hours later finally the NC turned up. Atlas and friends had 300, NC and friends had 500. 200 WI, 100+ majesta, Rzr, MM + others.

They jump 500 into 300... through 1 small gate.

They all die.

Atlas cheered and now is really hungry after waiting 3 hours for the NC to form up and then 2 hours of combat involved with horrible lag.

Renters in the Geminate Area have contacted Atlas today about assisting and paying thier rent fees to atlas.


The highest I saw local go was about 690, and had around 350 on our side. We had fairly even numbers, but of course you had the advantage of already having the grid loaded. I never even got to see the other side of the gate Sad.

Serotta Ortot
Minmatar
No.Mercy
Merciless.
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:41:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Terror Rising
On a side note .. Did you see that new trailer for the planet graphics .. wow! Now we have something to look at as your fleet dies around you with no way of shooting .. Priorities CCP, Priorities.
Planet didn't even load for me, so I looked at some sh*tty brown background for 40+minutes before I had a fresh new clone!!

Next time Atlas, you jump in to us Cool

Dah' Khanid
Amarr
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:41:00 - [27]
 

Yo MM/RZR/WI/ME.

You have already used the lag excuse once. And the last 2 times, we actually jumped into you. Perhaps you should train your lag management a bit better and not have FC's that panic when targets can't be locked straight away/guns not always firing. Just a friendly FYI.

Dah'

Massive Dragon
Gallente
Genos Occidere
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:43:00 - [28]
 

NOT A SINGLE INCH!

Metal Dude
Gallente
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:43:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Metal Dude on 15/12/2009 23:44:15

Karma is a *****, NC. You used the lag tactic so many times it's pathetic that you start whining about it when it happens to you.

Ezazell
Gallente
Conflagration.
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.12.15 23:44:00 - [30]
 

GF, or it would have been. Thanx ccp, another fight determined by lagggg. Mad


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