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domitesting
Posted - 2009.12.14 22:20:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: domitesting on 14/12/2009 22:37:47
seriously the most tedious, mind numbingly annoying slit wristing activity out there, use 4 ,6 probes, nudging closer, then lost, then cant find again, then..... OMG!

lol sorry had to vent was going insane...

Liz Laser
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.12.14 22:30:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Liz Laser on 14/12/2009 22:30:49


New Eden is set in a dark future where the concept of automation was lost.

Thuranni
Eldjotnar
Posted - 2009.12.14 22:32:00 - [3]
 

You should have tried the old system.

domitesting
Posted - 2009.12.14 22:36:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Thuranni
You should have tried the old system.


lol i did was hoping this would of been better!

NEMESIS SIN
Posted - 2009.12.14 22:43:00 - [5]
 

Get.

Higher.

Skillz.

In.

Scanning.


Rolling Eyes

Zaqar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2009.12.14 22:44:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: domitesting
use 4 ,6 probes, nudging closer, then lost, then cant find again, then..... OMG!
You must be doing something very wrong if you're losing sigs while trying to narrow them down. Make sure you understand what the red spheres, the red circles, double hits with same IDs etc. actually mean...

domitesting
Posted - 2009.12.14 22:45:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: domitesting on 14/12/2009 22:47:05
Originally by: NEMESIS SIN
Get.

Higher.

Skillz.

In.

Scanning.


Rolling Eyes


Ive

Got

Skillz

In

Scanning

Alot

Thanks

However if you need high skills then might as well state you need lvl 4 to scan...maybe its me. btw i know what all the red circles etc mean dude lol..thanks tho...

Yuki Kulotsuki
Posted - 2009.12.14 22:47:00 - [8]
 

I now feel obligated to post this:
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

It's much nicer to work with than the old system. I do miss the fishing-esque old method of doing things since it was nice and relaxing. Now you can pin down a site or a ship in no time. Just takes some work which involves some stimulating three dimensional manipulation. I'm one of those weirdos who enjoys it.

Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company
Posted - 2009.12.14 22:47:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Liz Laser
New Eden is set in a dark future where the concept of automation was lost.


Hehe so true, baby.

Erdiere
Minmatar
Erasers inc.
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2009.12.14 22:49:00 - [10]
 

Why would you use 6 probes? 4 is all you'll ever need.

Thuul'Khalat
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2009.12.14 23:03:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: domitesting
Originally by: Thuranni
You should have tried the old system.


lol i did was hoping this would of been better!


When did the word 'have' disappear from the English language? I seem to have missed the memo.

Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
Posted - 2009.12.14 23:06:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Thuul'Khalat
Originally by: domitesting
Originally by: Thuranni
You should have tried the old system.


lol i did was hoping this would of been better!


When did the word 'have' disappear from the English language? I seem to have missed the memo.


When you would of been in the toilet.

Dretzle Omega
Caldari
Global Economy Experts
Posted - 2009.12.14 23:08:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Thuul'Khalat
Originally by: domitesting
Originally by: Thuranni
You should have tried the old system.


lol i did was hoping this would of been better!


When did the word 'have' disappear from the English language? I seem to have missed the memo.


You did.

Ain't and irregardless are also now in the dictionary, unfortunately. Sad

Yuki Kulotsuki
Posted - 2009.12.14 23:12:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Thuul'Khalat
Originally by: domitesting
Originally by: Thuranni
You should have tried the old system.


lol i did was hoping this would of been better!


When did the word 'have' disappear from the English language? I seem to have missed the memo.


It's part of the upgrades that are in beta on the test environment (see: the internet). The patch notes should be posted by now but I wouldn't expect the devs to go live with the language update just yet. It needs another couple of months of testing at the very least. There are still a few bugs to work out.

Forge Lag
Jita Lag Preservation Fund
Posted - 2009.12.14 23:19:00 - [15]
 

Ah it is good when you lose signature as it breaks the mind numbing repetetive minigame that would fail on Kongregate but is fine as cruicial part of top MMO.

It is no skill all SP now. But since you need barely any SP...

Nicholas Barker
Deez Nuts.
Posted - 2009.12.14 23:22:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: domitesting
seriously the most tedious, mind numbingly annoying slit wristing activity out there


Never been mining have you?

Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company
Posted - 2009.12.14 23:39:00 - [17]
 

Mining is what you make of it. Cool

Bel Amar
Amarr
Sudden Buggery
Situation: Normal
Posted - 2009.12.14 23:50:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: domitesting
Edited by: domitesting on 14/12/2009 22:37:47
seriously the most tedious, mind numbingly annoying slit wristing activity out there, use 4 ,6 probes, nudging closer, then lost, then cant find again, then..... OMG!


Are you using filters? The most common reason this occurs is because of filters. Otherwise, unless you're doing something really wrong, it's next to impossible to lose a signal all together

With filters, lets say you only want to scan out battleships because you want to do some mission salvaging. To that end, you set up a filter to ignore all ships except battleships, then you get out scanning. You get a hit, but you can't tell what type of ship it is. As you narrow it down, you eventually get a good enough hit to identify the ship as a battlecruiser, and at this very point, you will lose the signal, as the filter can now identify it to filter it out. Until you get to that point though, the filter does not exclude the result, because the type of ship was unknown...

Kitimortoa
Posted - 2009.12.14 23:56:00 - [19]
 

Well if he's scanning down mission runners, they often will leave before you get a 100% on them. I get frustrated by this many times in some .4 mission spots...I still have yet to catch one, usually right about the time I'm about to get 100%, poof they're gone...damn bastards paying to directional scan too much...

Training your scanning skills up really high helps reduce the time it takes, but they still see you...wish they made cloaky probes :P

JitaPriceChecker2
Posted - 2009.12.15 00:06:00 - [20]
 

scanning have never been easy

The less people are aware of it the better for good recon pilots

and btw : no local rox

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2009.12.15 00:24:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Liz Laser
New Eden is set in a dark future where the concept of automation was lost.


Nice.

Guillame Herschel
Gallente
NME1
Posted - 2009.12.15 00:25:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: NEMESIS SIN
Get.

Higher.



fify

Emperor D'Hoffryn
EXTERMINATUS.
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2009.12.15 00:36:00 - [23]
 

the old scanning system was better for tracking down ships, the new system is MUCH MUCH better for exploration related activities.

With the old system it was possible to get a workable warpin to a target with a single probe from outside directional scanner range with good skills. With the new system, you have to fumble with the little widgets on the map for a period of time, all the while your probes are within directional scanning distance.

Also, some ships can be made unprobable now, but that is a different discussion.

JitaPriceChecker2
Posted - 2009.12.15 00:47:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 15/12/2009 00:47:33
Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn
the old scanning system was better for tracking down ships, the new system is MUCH MUCH better for exploration related activities.

With the old system it was possible to get a workable warpin to a target with a single probe from outside directional scanner range with good skills. With the new system, you have to fumble with the little widgets on the map for a period of time, all the while your probes are within directional scanning distance.

Also, some ships can be made unprobable now, but that is a different discussion.


I belive pvp scanning is very balanced now. 15,20 seconds ( for good prober , that requires RL skills ! ) to scan the ships is just enough to get unnoticed , or to get noticed by "victim". It can really go both ways.

And btw i hate unprobable ships , they should be dealth with.


Babel
Utopian Research I.E.L.
Hedonistic Imperative
Posted - 2009.12.15 01:36:00 - [25]
 

Try not probing and instead doing something else - that should solve your frustration :)

Doctor Cal'torien
Gallente
The Vikings of the Black Sea
Posted - 2009.12.15 01:57:00 - [26]
 

try harder

Swidgen
Posted - 2009.12.15 02:08:00 - [27]
 

You're going to have problems with anything less than Astrometrics 3, and even then you'll need a strong signature to home in on. I'd suggest at least Astrometrics 4, Astro Acquisition 2, Astro Rangefinding 3 and Astro Pinpointing 2 for combat probe scanning to be minimally useful to you.

It's not correct to assume you can do anything at all (besides launching the probes) with less than Astrometrics 3. In fact, levels 1 and 2 of that skill might as well not even exist.

Yerotun
Posted - 2009.12.15 02:22:00 - [28]
 

there are like 4 or 5 differnet skills tied into scanning, along with the proper ship setup, along with implants, and basic understanding of how it works.

WHAT REALLY UPSETS ME< IS MY SCAN IDS RESET AT DT!!! So i have to scan down the same sites twice a day just to find out what the new one that spawns id, after finding out what the new id for all the old sites i scanned out yesterday.

That is suicide. Poor guys in the hole when dt flips...hehe, log in 30 mins before scan em for the ids, then 30 mins after dt scan again to rescan the sites that you found and hour ago...meh.

Zephyr SkyHunter
No.Mercy
Posted - 2009.12.15 03:15:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Yerotun
there are like 4 or 5 differnet skills tied into scanning, along with the proper ship setup, along with implants, and basic understanding of how it works.

WHAT REALLY UPSETS ME< IS MY SCAN IDS RESET AT DT!!! So i have to scan down the same sites twice a day just to find out what the new one that spawns id, after finding out what the new id for all the old sites i scanned out yesterday.

That is suicide. Poor guys in the hole when dt flips...hehe, log in 30 mins before scan em for the ids, then 30 mins after dt scan again to rescan the sites that you found and hour ago...meh.


Bookmark all of them. Move a single .25 AU probe around to get the new IDs. Sure, it's not great, but it's a hell of a lot faster than re-scanning them all from scratch.

Doctor Cal'torien
Gallente
The Vikings of the Black Sea
Posted - 2009.12.15 03:15:00 - [30]
 

yes they def' created it as a new form of suicide, enjoy
-troll


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