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Pelannie
Posted - 2009.12.07 00:02:00 - [91]
 

Edited by: Pelannie on 07/12/2009 00:02:59
Originally by: Sloan X
i understand why the grace, keep up the good work.


some of you guys might wanna look in to console games, there is never any problems. just put in your shinny disk and instant HAPPIENESS!!!

you players who keep bashing the DEV's is why many studios are only making console games. you should all support this kind of game production.

cheers CCp avant-garde

You twitter on about this and that, jeeez. Which is prob why CCP is developing Dust, they can save them selves a load of grief from you whiners and dev wages fixing the whines by moving to console concepts.



Boogiez
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2009.12.07 00:55:00 - [92]
 

Well you guys should stop crying and show abit of respect
Dont think CCP is here to ruin your game attually they do a good work ...
Things takes time and your guys should go out and take a look on the world outside your computerworld maybe you will find that interesting ??
After that try to come back and them all your problems are solved i guess ...

JACKIE M00N
Posted - 2009.12.07 01:04:00 - [93]
 

Word has it that talk is cheap on the internet... Wink

Jason Marshall
Gallente
Mad Bombers
Guns and Alcohol
Posted - 2009.12.07 04:19:00 - [94]
 

Wish they would address the upgrades not working.

Caladain Barton
Navy of Xoc
The Remnant Legion
Posted - 2009.12.07 04:40:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Time frame:
- Fixing the Sovereignty claim level: Monday, December 7, 2009
- Seeding Disruption marker: Tuesday, December 8, 2009
- Lifting grace period: Tuesday, December 15, 2009



Does that mean that sov is vulnerable on the 8th or the 15th?

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2009.12.07 05:25:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Caladain Barton
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Time frame:
- Fixing the Sovereignty claim level: Monday, December 7, 2009
- Seeding Disruption marker: Tuesday, December 8, 2009
- Lifting grace period: Tuesday, December 15, 2009



Does that mean that sov is vulnerable on the 8th or the 15th?


Very good question. CCP, does the above timetable mean the following statement is true?

You may buy the DMUs (Disruption marker units) on the 8th, but pointless deploying until the 15th when the Invulnerability of Sov is removed.


Nairb Ecrep
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.12.07 05:55:00 - [97]
 

So can we get a response about upgrades and sov?

That is the point of this thread, right (we ask questions, you provide info)?

CCP Chronotis

Posted - 2009.12.07 07:15:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Spurty
Originally by: Caladain Barton
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Time frame:
- Fixing the Sovereignty claim level: Monday, December 7, 2009
- Seeding Disruption marker: Tuesday, December 8, 2009
- Lifting grace period: Tuesday, December 15, 2009



Does that mean that sov is vulnerable on the 8th or the 15th?


Very good question. CCP, does the above timetable mean the following statement is true?

You may buy the DMUs (Disruption marker units) on the 8th, but pointless deploying until the 15th when the Invulnerability of Sov is removed.




No, that is not what it means at all. Your sovereignty will be vulnerable to attack. The Sovereignty Blockade Units (SBU) if onlined at more than 51% of your systems gates makes your outpost if in system, or infrastructure hub if it is in system or your TCU vulnerable.

The grace period only relates to the existing sovereignty restricted starbase structures such as cyno jammers and jump bridges. Before the grace period ends at downtime Tuesday 15th December you must have the appropriate strategic upgrade installed into the infrastructure hub in order for these to remain online afterwards.

Ivanna Nuke
Gallente
Holders Of The Cowbell
Posted - 2009.12.07 09:35:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Originally by: Spurty
Originally by: Caladain Barton
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Time frame:
- Fixing the Sovereignty claim level: Monday, December 7, 2009
- Seeding Disruption marker: Tuesday, December 8, 2009
- Lifting grace period: Tuesday, December 15, 2009



Does that mean that sov is vulnerable on the 8th or the 15th?


Very good question. CCP, does the above timetable mean the following statement is true?

You may buy the DMUs (Disruption marker units) on the 8th, but pointless deploying until the 15th when the Invulnerability of Sov is removed.




No, that is not what it means at all. Your sovereignty will be vulnerable to attack. The Sovereignty Blockade Units (SBU) if onlined at more than 51% of your systems gates makes your outpost if in system, or infrastructure hub if it is in system or your TCU vulnerable.

The grace period only relates to the existing sovereignty restricted starbase structures such as cyno jammers and jump bridges. Before the grace period ends at downtime Tuesday 15th December you must have the appropriate strategic upgrade installed into the infrastructure hub in order for these to remain online afterwards.



Impending ****storm in 3...2.

New ones
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.12.07 09:43:00 - [100]
 

CCP stil failes. fix supercaps instead of some crapy sov system..

VSlash
VVS Corporition
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2009.12.07 09:52:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: CCP Chronotis
The grace period only relates to the existing sovereignty restricted starbase structures such as cyno jammers and jump bridges. Before the grace period ends at downtime Tuesday 15th December you must have the appropriate strategic upgrade installed into the infrastructure hub in order for these to remain online afterwards.


And what about moving TCUs? And namely - restoring sovereignty after moving it to another location. Because if everybody decides to leave TCUs where they were placed (p1m1) then you might aswell add 'Hai come shoot me for fun' under the alliance logo of the TCU.

Rejected Enlightenment
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.12.07 10:21:00 - [102]
 

Straight answer, when will sov be vulnerable, after downtime on the 8th, or after downtime on the 15th?

Xina Tutor
Amarr
Black Arrows
Sev3rance
Posted - 2009.12.07 11:13:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Rejected Enlightenment
Straight answer, when will sov be vulnerable, after downtime on the 8th, or after downtime on the 15th?


yes :P

Eleana Tomelac
Gallente
Eclats de verre
Posted - 2009.12.07 11:25:00 - [104]
 

The lack of refuelling boredom makes some people happy, for sure, but their masters won't let them talk in public...

Still, the momkills with just a bit more damage than the titan DD makes no sense... No matter how crap fitted they were (T2 tanking? lol, faction is cheap compared to the other stuff in the fit).

Johan Civire
Posted - 2009.12.07 11:43:00 - [105]
 

CCP good work :) thxs for the fixs Cool

Atropos Kahn
Caldari
Imminent Ruin
Posted - 2009.12.07 12:06:00 - [106]
 

Just give Motherships the ability to bridge a cyno and all will be well.

Vospri Yon
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.12.07 12:15:00 - [107]
 

ccp are you trying to make your customers quit?

First post...
Quote:
Due to this discovery, we will therefore extend the grace period, allowing Alliances to better prepare for the upcoming Sovereignty changes.


Now you post
Quote:
No, that is not what it means at all. Your sovereignty will be vulnerable to attack.


Could you for the love of god learn how to communicate with your customers; your original post should have said

"we will let you keep your current strategic level till the 15th to allow for more time with deloyment, however the new sov system goes live on the 8th after dt."

This is just another example of ******ed comms which make me wonder why I play this game.

Misaki Yuuko
Caldari
Posted - 2009.12.07 13:01:00 - [108]
 

CCP are autistic, don't hope for good communication from them lol.


On other news, are you going to do soemthing about server performance? Current eprformance it's way worse than before patch, don't know what has screwed things up.

Camaris
The Inf1dels
Narwhals Ate My Duck
Posted - 2009.12.07 13:57:00 - [109]
 

This sov update did amazing things, while the rest of our constellation has sov 2 (pre-dominion sov 3) as of today we now have 2 systems that were the last to hit sov 3 pre dominion now sitting at 85% to level 4. Cool Patch Bro.

Shizah
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.12.07 14:13:00 - [110]
 

Who will get notification of BCU's being deployed in your system -- or attack notifications?

So far it appears that only directors are getting this information, and only the directors in the corporation that holds the system sov.

These notifications need to go out on an alliance wide basis or we will not be able to properly monitor them.

Femaref
Armageddon Day
WE FORM VOLTRON
Posted - 2009.12.07 14:41:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Xina Tutor
Originally by: Rejected Enlightenment
Straight answer, when will sov be vulnerable, after downtime on the 8th, or after downtime on the 15th?


yes :P


<3

drall
The Dragon's Core.
Posted - 2009.12.07 14:52:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Rejected Enlightenment
Straight answer, when will sov be vulnerable, after downtime on the 8th, or after downtime on the 15th?



Sov becomes vulnerable on the 8th.

davet517
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.12.07 14:54:00 - [113]
 

Thank you for the update.

It has been asked a few times, but no answer yet, so I'll ask again. Will it be possible to contest sov starting tomorrow when the disruptors are seeded, or are TCUs invulnerable until the 15th?

If I'm reading right it looks like the "grace period" is only for getting TCUs anchored while not losing strat index. We should be able to contest anchored TCUs as soon as the units are seeded. Would a dev please confirm or deny this?

Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
Posted - 2009.12.07 15:40:00 - [114]
 

DT came and went and the strategic index wasn't fixed. Great work CCP.

Tactikill
Caldari
Maximatics Inc
Posted - 2009.12.07 15:55:00 - [115]
 

These forums are becoming more and more useless because of stupid posts like the ones at the beginning of this thread and then there are the thread hijackers. Since when did this thread become about motherships?

CCP, you need to delete those useless posts and those that aren't on topic. Yeah, you can delete this off-topic thread too.

CCP Chronotis

Posted - 2009.12.07 16:09:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: davet517

Will it be possible to contest sov starting tomorrow when the disruptors are seeded, or are TCUs invulnerable until the 15th?


Yes, the only thing stopping sovereignty from being contested is the lack of Sovereignty Blockade Units to anchor and online at the gates in systems you wish to contest. They will be seeded on the market tomorrow during downtime.

Quote:

If I'm reading right it looks like the "grace period" is only for getting TCUs anchored while not losing strat index. We should be able to contest anchored TCUs as soon as the units are seeded. Would a dev please confirm or deny this?


The grace period only affects the time you have to install strategic upgrades into hubs in systems where you wish to keep your jump bridge or cyno jammer array online. For example, the jump bridge starbase structure requires the Advanced Logistics Network Strategic upgrade installed into the infrastructure hub.

If that requirement is not met before downtime on the 15th December then the jump bridge will go offline after downtime when we lift the grace period.

Tamara Nostrum
Posted - 2009.12.07 17:27:00 - [117]
 

Not being a WoW player myself, I took a brief look at their forums, and I have to say, the day when 'go back to WoW' actually becomes a compliment in terms of the quality of forum posts doesn't look to be as far off as I'd thought. Who let all these whiny teenagers in? I agree with the previous (non-dev) post; CCP should clean the thread of this needless rude spam.

Keep up the good work CCP! I wish you luck in ignoring the idiots.

In other news, governments of the world are looking to introduce an IQ test to control access to the Internet in an attempt to stem the tide of web-enabled complete morons...

Shizah
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.12.07 22:14:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Shizah
Who will get notification of BCU's being deployed in your system -- or attack notifications?

So far it appears that only directors are getting this information, and only the directors in the corporation that holds the system sov.

These notifications need to go out on an alliance wide basis or we will not be able to properly monitor them.


Was my question stupid, do I have the wrong forum, or has this been answered already -- and if so, where. Thank you

db T
SniggWaffe
FREE KARTTOON NOW
Posted - 2009.12.08 00:49:00 - [119]
 

Edited by: db T on 08/12/2009 00:53:51
Edited by: db T on 08/12/2009 00:52:57
What I find amusing about this thread is how the only ones supporting CCP, not pointing out how they've botched Dominion and so on, are the people who doesn't show corp- or allianceticker.

PS: I know why.

It's because you play EVE in highsec without any human interaction and as long as Ravens spew out free isk you won't say ****.

PPS: How to not be a moronic douchebag: Do not comment on something you have no experience with. ie no-corp alts should be quiet from now on kthxbye.

edit for clarification: ... because you don't know anything.

Alucard291
SOLAR FLEET
Posted - 2009.12.08 12:14:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: db T
Edited by: db T on 08/12/2009 00:53:51
Edited by: db T on 08/12/2009 00:52:57
What I find amusing about this thread is how the only ones supporting CCP, not pointing out how they've botched Dominion and so on, are the people who doesn't show corp- or allianceticker.

PS: I know why.

It's because you play EVE in highsec without any human interaction and as long as Ravens spew out free isk you won't say ****.

PPS: How to not be a moronic douchebag: Do not comment on something you have no experience with. ie no-corp alts should be quiet from now on kthxbye.

edit for clarification: ... because you don't know anything.


Omg I'm agreeing with an NC member...


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