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Kane Plekkel
The Necronomicons
Posted - 2009.11.20 18:52:00 - [1]
 

I'm new to recon ships, I've got either the Falcon or Rook to choose from. I'm liking the Falcon for the cloak, but how viable is it as a solo boat. I'm looking to use it for solo roaming/pirating. Which of the two would be better for that, assuming high enough skills in ECM, hybrids/missiles, etc?

Cheers in advance

Jin Turbo
Caldari
Posted - 2009.11.20 20:13:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Kane Plekkel
I'm new to recon ships, I've got either the Falcon or Rook to choose from. I'm liking the Falcon for the cloak, but how viable is it as a solo boat. I'm looking to use it for solo roaming/pirating. Which of the two would be better for that, assuming high enough skills in ECM, hybrids/missiles, etc?

Cheers in advance


You're gonna do more damage with Rook. No cloak but it is better suited for a fight.

Brent riper
Caldari
Night Wolves
Posted - 2009.11.20 21:00:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Kane Plekkel
I'm new to recon ships, I've got either the Falcon or Rook to choose from. I'm liking the Falcon for the cloak, but how viable is it as a solo boat. I'm looking to use it for solo roaming/pirating. Which of the two would be better for that, assuming high enough skills in ECM, hybrids/missiles, etc?

Cheers in advance



rook ftw, you will deffinitlly want the rook, u should have jamming strenghts that are more then enough to protect yourself from any attack that a cloak would, plus your dmg is going to be very juicy. only problem u will have is getting people to engage you. people tend to run away from rooks aswell as Curse's. so you are stuck to engagements in belts ro planets where no gate fire can hurt you :) but very effective oh and be prepared to fill your cargo bay with emo QQ tears when people die and cant do anything about itYARRRR!!

Bud Johnson
Broski Enterprises
Posted - 2009.11.20 21:30:00 - [4]
 

3 for 3 on the rook bro, its a damned good addition to any fleet and also one of the few caldari solo options.

Originally by: Brent riper

only problem u will have is getting people to engage you. people tend to run away from rooks aswell as Curse's.


Seconding this as well.

Kane Plekkel
The Necronomicons
Posted - 2009.11.20 22:12:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Kane Plekkel on 20/11/2009 22:44:58
Alrite, Rook it is. Does anyone have any good setups for both solo and small (3-5) gang warfare? Some info on roles as well could be helpful to me.

Obvious the Rook fills a jam/anti targetting role, a friend has an interceptor that does tackling, and another has a Cerb fully fit for DPS. Were we to expand to 5, lets say, what would be a good addition to round out the gang so we have an above-average chance to take on most ships we'd find (besides capitals, obviously)?

Edit: also, in comparison to a pure DPS ship, how much damage can I expect to deal out, and how long will a passive tank last, given I have the Standard Adv Cruiser Heavy Launcher and Improved Passive Shielding Certificates?

Jessica Fyers
Gallente
Azure Horizon
Posted - 2009.11.23 11:04:00 - [6]
 

Well, starting from your last question, Rook isnt usually tanked, your ECM is your defense. You could ofc use AB over MWD, and fit a token tank, nobody stops you doing that.

For solo work i've been playing around with this setup, but i would like some input on it as well:

[Rook, New Setup 1]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Shadow Serpentis 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile

Medium Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
Medium Particle Dispersion Augmentor I


Warrior II x5

Around 500 DPS, but only 8K EHP Embarassed... The multies have a strenght of almost 9 tho, so you could conceivably pull it off.

For gang i'd fit something like that:

[Rook, New Setup 2]
Signal Distortion Amplifier II
Signal Distortion Amplifier II
Signal Distortion Amplifier II

10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x5

More tank and ECM, but slower and ofc no tackle, but you got that covered from other gangmembers anyway.

(dont bbq me too much, i know these setups may suck badly, flying ECM boats isnt my thing ugh )

Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.11.23 12:24:00 - [7]
 

I've heard Blaster Falcons are very effective solo, but neither tried it by myself nor got a viable fitting.

Marko Riva
Posted - 2009.11.23 12:53:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Jessica Fyers
multispec fits


4 racials > 4 multis (unless you're in a big fleet fight and just try to jam random crap, but even then).

In a solo situation I'd use something like this.

[Rook, PVP]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Disruptor II
ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II
ECM - Ion Field Projector II
ECM - Phase Inverter II
ECM - White Noise Generator II
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Hellfire Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Hellfire Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Hellfire Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Hellfire Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Hellfire Assault Missile

Medium Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
Medium Particle Dispersion Augmentor I


Hobgoblin II x5

Jessica Fyers
Gallente
Azure Horizon
Posted - 2009.11.23 13:03:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Jessica Fyers on 23/11/2009 13:06:01
Iirc racials have even lower chance of getting a succesfull jamming cycle against a different sensor type (ie: LADAR vs Magnetometric) than multispecs, so unless you know what the target is flying and fit specifically against it, why 1 of each? Does the 'cover all eventuallities' fitting work much better than the all multispecs? Dont know, thats why i am asking.

Marko Riva
Posted - 2009.11.23 13:05:00 - [10]
 

It does, not going to rehash the formula (mostly because I'm stupid) but I'm sure others will. 4 racials outperform 4 multis.

Brent riper
Caldari
Night Wolves
Posted - 2009.11.23 17:10:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Marko Riva
It does, not going to rehash the formula (mostly because I'm stupid) but I'm sure others will. 4 racials outperform 4 multis.



yes out of pure jamming ability but practicality i like to keep my targets perma-jammed no matter what they are. for solo i use a rook with full multis it will jam you up with little difficulty plus u can be closer without hurting your optimal jamms, where as racials make u sit farther out to get a perfect jam cycle and im not one for taking chances with jam cycles on a single racial, out of versatility survivability go with multispecs.

but he was correct with the racials being more effective and better then multis but only if u know exactly what you are gonna be fighting. i usually carry 2 of each in my cargo jst in case the situation presents itself that i may need them such as finding a gang of 2 or 3 ppl that i want to kill and knowing multis might not be enough. but 85% of the time multispecs are still very much so WIN. either way both fittings mentioned above are pretty much the cookie cutter rook death machine YARRRR!!

Marko Riva
Posted - 2009.11.23 17:41:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Brent riper
Originally by: Marko Riva
It does, not going to rehash the formula (mostly because I'm stupid) but I'm sure others will. 4 racials outperform 4 multis.



yes out of pure jamming ability but practicality i like to keep my targets perma-jammed no matter what they are. for solo i use a rook with full multis it will jam you up with little difficulty plus u can be closer without hurting your optimal jamms, where as racials make u sit farther out to get a perfect jam cycle and im not one for taking chances with jam cycles on a single racial, out of versatility survivability go with multispecs.

but he was correct with the racials being more effective and better then multis but only if u know exactly what you are gonna be fighting. i usually carry 2 of each in my cargo jst in case the situation presents itself that i may need them such as finding a gang of 2 or 3 ppl that i want to kill and knowing multis might not be enough. but 85% of the time multispecs are still very much so WIN. either way both fittings mentioned above are pretty much the cookie cutter rook death machine YARRRR!!


that's no permajam
WHAT, do you actually understand "optimal"?

Aralieus
Amarr
Shadowbane Syndicate
Posted - 2009.11.23 18:04:00 - [13]
 

Yea, Rook I'm going to let you finish but I just need to say 'CURSE IS THE BEST RECON OF ALL TIME'


 

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