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Utemetsu
Caldari
Posted - 2009.11.19 18:58:00 - [31]
 

This is just fail on your part. As said previously, CCP gives you plenty of safeguards to protect against scammers. They don't do anything to harm legitimate players, only deter the scammers; however, I suppose there are people dumb enough to trust anyone. If they don't want to make a contract, don't do it.

Alex Deiters
Posted - 2009.11.19 19:10:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Utemetsu
This is just fail on your part. As said previously, CCP gives you plenty of safeguards to protect against scammers. They don't do anything to harm legitimate players, only deter the scammers; however, I suppose there are people dumb enough to trust anyone. If they don't want to make a contract, don't do it.


Well I know that now, the reason im posting is not to complain but to warn other people against those two chars. Yes we made a mistake and yes we learned, im just warning other people. Thats all

Never read much about the hole corp thingy because I never needed to know, the corp im in now is not that old so its a first timer corp.

Kitimortoa
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:21:00 - [33]
 

Stop lying about innocent people.

We all know it was you that took off with the stuff then contracted it up in Jita on an alt.

It's bad form to try and ruin the reputations of innocent people.

Alex Deiters
Posted - 2009.11.20 00:13:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Kitimortoa
Stop lying about innocent people.

We all know it was you that took off with the stuff then contracted it up in Jita on an alt.

It's bad form to try and ruin the reputations of innocent people.


Hehe nice try.

Kitimortoa
Posted - 2009.11.20 03:13:00 - [35]
 

I do not need to try, I know forthrightly that you sir are a scallywag and a liar.

You come here making baseless accusations and defame Brutor Ratamnim, who I know to be most honorable and honest. Furthermore you lack any sort of sufficient proof, pointing to the fact that you, yourself did indeed take all of the items and auction/trade/sell them off to the highest bidder.

You sir are what makes EVE an unpleasant place for the rest of the law abiding citizens of New Eden. I spit on your name, your progeny and your soul.

If you weren't a gutless scumbag bent on hiding your own misdeeds and publicly trying to defame Brutor Ratamnim, then I would have pity on your weak mind and sense of honesty.

I ask that the rest of C&P exact vengeance on this man for his character assassination of the honorable Brutor Ratamnim. We must bring this charlatan to justice!

LoganFire
Quam Singulari
Session Changes
Posted - 2009.11.20 08:05:00 - [36]
 

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Alex Deiters
Posted - 2009.11.20 11:33:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Alex Deiters on 20/11/2009 11:34:29
Originally by: Kitimortoa
I do not need to try, I know forthrightly that you sir are a scallywag and a liar.

You come here making baseless accusations and defame Brutor Ratamnim, who I know to be most honorable and honest. Furthermore you lack any sort of sufficient proof, pointing to the fact that you, yourself did indeed take all of the items and auction/trade/sell them off to the highest bidder.

You sir are what makes EVE an unpleasant place for the rest of the law abiding citizens of New Eden. I spit on your name, your progeny and your soul.

If you weren't a gutless scumbag bent on hiding your own misdeeds and publicly trying to defame Brutor Ratamnim, then I would have pity on your weak mind and sense of honesty.

I ask that the rest of C&P exact vengeance on this man for his character assassination of the honorable Brutor Ratamnim. We must bring this charlatan to justice!



Well I guess that you are a new or old alt of Brutor Ratamnim. Because he is a pirate. If you see the logs I posted which has been deleted by moderator you can see that Brutor is a real scumbag like you.

Well 20121221 got deleted today I think, and yesterday he was bragging about how much that char stole. If I could show you a log without it getting removed but moderator I would gladly show it to you.

Nathan Harrow
Caldari
NibbleTek
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2009.11.20 12:11:00 - [38]
 

host the chatlogs elsewhere and link to it?????

Eve-files perhaps?

Alex Deiters
Posted - 2009.11.20 12:32:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Nathan Harrow
host the chatlogs elsewhere and link to it?????

Eve-files perhaps?


Okay first time doing this but here goes:

The first one is 20121221 bragging about the theft:
Proof 1

The second one is Brutor Ratamnim trying to sell it all back to us:
Proof 2

Now I present the proof from logs.

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2009.11.20 12:40:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Alex Deiters
Originally by: Nathan Harrow
host the chatlogs elsewhere and link to it?????

Eve-files perhaps?


Okay first time doing this but here goes:

The first one is 20121221 bragging about the theft:
Proof 1

The second one is Brutor Ratamnim trying to sell it all back to us:
Proof 2

Now I present the proof from logs.


Please prove these logs haven't been doctored.

Lana's Alt
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
Posted - 2009.11.20 12:43:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Alex Deiters
Originally by: Nathan Harrow
host the chatlogs elsewhere and link to it?????

Eve-files perhaps?


Okay first time doing this but here goes:

The first one is 20121221 bragging about the theft:
Proof 1

The second one is Brutor Ratamnim trying to sell it all back to us:
Proof 2

Now I present the proof from logs.


Please prove these logs haven't been doctored.

If it wasn't for the stupid 5 min timer I would have posted this too.. How do we know your not just making this stuff up? You have had ages to think of it and word it just right.

Alex Deiters
Posted - 2009.11.20 12:44:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: Alex Deiters on 20/11/2009 12:49:50
Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Alex Deiters
Originally by: Nathan Harrow
host the chatlogs elsewhere and link to it?????

Eve-files perhaps?


Okay first time doing this but here goes:

The first one is 20121221 bragging about the theft:
Proof 1

The second one is Brutor Ratamnim trying to sell it all back to us:
Proof 2

Now I present the proof from logs.


Please prove these logs haven't been doctored.


Well I removed the system names from local,will post them again.

This is the original files with systems removed:

Brutor Ratamnim:
Proof 1
20121221:
Proof 2

Lana's Alt
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
Posted - 2009.11.20 13:10:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Alex Deiters
Edited by: Alex Deiters on 20/11/2009 12:49:50
Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Alex Deiters
Originally by: Nathan Harrow
host the chatlogs elsewhere and link to it?????

Eve-files perhaps?


Okay first time doing this but here goes:

The first one is 20121221 bragging about the theft:
Proof 1

The second one is Brutor Ratamnim trying to sell it all back to us:
Proof 2

Now I present the proof from logs.


Please prove these logs haven't been doctored.


Well I removed the system names from local,will post them again.

This is the original files with systems removed:

Brutor Ratamnim:
Proof 1
20121221:
Proof 2

How does that prove the originals weren't fakes??

Alex Deiters
Posted - 2009.11.20 13:22:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Alex Deiters on 20/11/2009 14:05:11
Well I removed the system names from local,will post them again.

This is the original files with systems removed:

Brutor Ratamnim:
Proof 1
20121221:
Proof 2

How does that prove the originals weren't fakes??


Well I dont have to prove anything more how do you want me to verify it further.

If a moderater comes by please close this because there is not coming anything new out of this. This post just goes in loop.

Trisa Li
Posted - 2009.11.20 15:36:00 - [45]
 

Well then it seems as if you've learned your lesson.

Also, it's not all that likely the person trolling you was an alt of the scammer.

People don't like unfounded accusations, since it is pretty easy to take and post screenshots.

Next time at least have some properly-photoshopped screenies ready to post the instant someone questions your proof.

Alex Deiters
Posted - 2009.11.20 15:42:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Trisa Li
Well then it seems as if you've learned your lesson.

Also, it's not all that likely the person trolling you was an alt of the scammer.

People don't like unfounded accusations, since it is pretty easy to take and post screenshots.

Next time at least have some properly-photoshopped screenies ready to post the instant someone questions your proof.


Will do that, just given up on these forums, not a lot of people taking stuff serious. Most of the replies is just smacktalk. Wished I made some screenies but then again people will accuse me of using photoshop. So no one can ever really make any proof thats gonna hold.

not even logs taken from the eve folder is good enough :D

Captain Phil
Gallente
Empire of Phillip
Posted - 2009.11.20 17:48:00 - [47]
 

my opinion matters

Geisladiskur
Posted - 2009.11.20 17:50:00 - [48]
 

OP fails badly at Eve

Alex Deiters
Posted - 2009.11.20 20:26:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Geisladiskur
OP fails badly at Eve


Hello another alt

cherly ladd
Posted - 2009.11.21 05:28:00 - [50]
 

I know brut and hes a good guy he would never scam anyone. its not in his nature. he's a great guy who has good morals.
so next time get your facts straight

species2143
Posted - 2009.11.21 06:31:00 - [51]
 

Alex, you just don't get it do you? Keep feeding the trolls, they seem pretty hungry and numerous...

Alex Deiters
Posted - 2009.11.21 22:09:00 - [52]
 

Its just funny to see people protecting Brutor :D Well fly safe all here is another feed :D

w1ldt4ngent
SWARTA
Mostly Clueless
Posted - 2009.11.22 02:23:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: w1ldt4ngent on 22/11/2009 02:24:18
Edited by: w1ldt4ngent on 22/11/2009 02:23:28
Originally by: Alex Deiters
Its just funny to see people protecting Brutor :D Well fly safe all here is another feed :D


What's really funny is that you're totally oblivious to the fact that the real trolls here are just saying they know Brutor so you'll continue giving them the tearful responses they so crave.

Oops. I accidentally the whole thread.

Sorry to be the buzzkill, but honestly, by now you should have figured out that actually showing proof around here is *impossible*. How do you know these people defending Brutor really know him? How do we know you're not actually the scammer?

We know none of these things, so my advice to you, if you're legit, would be to just suck it up and move on. Corp theft happens, and there's rarely anything you can do about it besides *****. Or get revenge yourself. You decide.

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2009.11.22 02:40:00 - [54]
 

Confirming I am both the scammer and the scammee in this situation Razz

guska Cryotank
Gallente
Void Angels
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.11.22 12:37:00 - [55]
 

This isn't scamming...

This is GAME! (Getting A Moron to Emorage)

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
Posted - 2009.11.22 14:00:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Alex Deiters
Originally by: Geisladiskur
OP fails badly at Eve


Hello another alt



Hi there Mr. Alt, I must say, your alts are looking very alty on this altilicous alt. Don't forget to drop off the alts at the alt on your way to the alts!

Lanais Suleia
Posted - 2009.11.25 00:51:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Alex Deiters
Well I know that now, the reason im posting is not to complain but to warn other people against those two chars. Yes we made a mistake and yes we learned, im just warning other people. Thats all

Never read much about the hole corp thingy because I never needed to know, the corp im in now is not that old so its a first timer corp.


No you didn't learn. you got robbed, that's lesson 1. Then, you gave the thief 400m ISK. So obviously, lesson 1 didn't stick. Maybe lesson 2 will. Idea

Titan Pilot
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2009.11.25 03:35:00 - [58]
 

Life, sucks, you got screwed. I love this game.

p.s. I cba to check if your an alt or not. But if you're not, I might suggest you delete this one and start fresh because your pretty much hosed for life now.

just say'n Razz

Sutter Kane
Caldari
Zombie Inc.
Posted - 2009.11.27 01:53:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Alex Deiters
Edited by: Alex Deiters on 19/11/2009 16:57:03
Originally by: Raelyf
Originally by: Alex Deiters
Edited by: Alex Deiters on 19/11/2009 16:40:57
Were you?

The problem is not the price its the time invested in research of these bpos. It took a long time to research so of course I will try to get them back.



The guy just finished stealing all your crap, then offered to sell it back but refused to give you a contract or any other means of guaranteed legitimacy because he 'doesn't do that'.. and you thought sending him 750mil was a good plan?

Really?





Well only 400 not 750. I only send him 400, well what can I say he scammed me and the first time when he took all he scammed my mate. The point is that if someone gets contacted by one of those chars I mention in my post be aware. Thats all.


You my friend, look like an legit idiot that should stay in Counter-Strike.

Josephine Gauthier
Posted - 2009.11.27 02:03:00 - [60]
 

That's incredibly gullible of you Alex...

Anyway, lets pretend the chat logs aren't doctored, isn't recycling characters (biomassing them) in that way a big nono according to CCP, or is that limited to dodging consequences of low sec status only? Not that I think CCP actually acts on things like that, too hard to prove intent.


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