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yakamuri zelda |
Posted - 2009.11.16 16:23:00 - [ 1]
Just lost a hurricane in Reblier when I landed 39km away from the gate having gone past it. And then in a bubble. I was severely outnumbered, but that's beside the point.
Isn't warp to within 0km supposed to land you within 0? Well at least 2-3k like usual.
Is something that CCP would reimburse? |
bassie12bf1 |
Posted - 2009.11.16 16:24:00 - [ 2]
It will land you at the edge of bubbles when there are any. |
Mudad |
Posted - 2009.11.16 16:25:00 - [ 3]
The bubble pulled you, thats why they put it there, intended mechanic no re imbursement. Just one of the joys of 0.0
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Korizan
Hysterically Unforgiving |
Posted - 2009.11.16 16:26:00 - [ 4]
Warp to Zerp does just that, Well 0 to 2500 meters that is. HOWEVER The WARP Bubble pull you into it. And that is its Function. SO Both are working as intended. And now you know about warp bubbles, Nasty buggers aren't they  |
white kight
Helljumpers
White Noise. |
Posted - 2009.11.16 16:26:00 - [ 5]
fail troll is fail.
If you warped into a bubble you were in 6-c and not in reblier. Bubbles cannot be used in low sec.
Learn the mechanics before whining |
JeanMichel Bizarre
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita |
Posted - 2009.11.16 16:36:00 - [ 6]
Damn alt. This is OP.
Yeah it landed me at the edge. Which was 39km from the gate. |
white kight
Helljumpers
White Noise. |
Posted - 2009.11.16 16:42:00 - [ 7]
Edited by: white kight on 16/11/2009 16:43:15 Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre
Damn alt. This is OP.
Yeah it landed me at the edge. Which was 39km from the gate.
Then you were in 0.0 and not Reblier which is low sec edit: Proof |
Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2009.11.16 16:46:00 - [ 8]
Originally by: yakamuri zelda
Isn't warp to within 0km supposed to land you within 0? Well at least 2-3k like usual.
Yes, if there is no drag bubble. Quote:
Is something that CCP would reimburse?
No. |
JeanMichel Bizarre
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita |
Posted - 2009.11.16 16:46:00 - [ 9]
And I'm not whining at all - it's not the first Hurricane I've lost. I was just curious as to why that happened. And I got my answer.
And yeah, I was in 6-CZ49 going to jump into Reblier. My bad. |
Corduroy Rab
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:47:00 - [ 10]
methinks a bubble foiled your warp.
Just checked our kb, yes you were in 6-c warping to the Reb gate (which is nearly perma camped). If a bubble is placed inline with the direction you are warping from then you will be pulled into it, this is likely what happened to you. To avoid this you should try to come from an odd angel, such as not from a gate or the station, but from some random celestial that is not in the same line as the gates or station, but frankly seeing how this gate is locked down sometimes, that might not even work. If you need to get by that area a lot get a cov ops or something to make a warpable point that is well off the gate in an odd direction that you can warp to first, or get a safe spot close to the gate so you can scan for bubbles before warping there.
Last, CCP should not reimburse this.
Hope that helps. |
JeanMichel Bizarre
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita |
Posted - 2009.11.16 16:53:00 - [ 11]
Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 16/11/2009 16:54:12
Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 16/11/2009 16:53:27
Yeah well... to think I have actually made a profit off of this. Insurance was 37mil, the ship I got for 20mil and the fittings were just a bit over 9mil according to the killmail.
Yaaay.
I also hate it how people call trolls so easily just cause it's a cool meme. |
Corduroy Rab
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:57:00 - [ 12]
Never underestimate the power of a cool meme. |
Amber Bock
The Hull Miners Union
Gentlemen's Club |
Posted - 2009.11.16 17:11:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre
Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 16/11/2009 16:54:12
Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 16/11/2009 16:53:27
Yeah well... to think I have actually made a profit off of this. Insurance was 37mil, the ship I got for 20mil and the fittings were just a bit over 9mil according to the killmail.
Yaaay.
I also hate it how people call trolls so easily just cause it's a cool meme.
People call troll because its a brand new alt, hence no picture. Flying a hurricane in 0.0. Which sounds like a troll. |
Marine HK4861
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.11.16 18:49:00 - [ 14]
Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre
Yeah well... to think I have actually made a profit off of this. Insurance was 37mil, the ship I got for 20mil and the fittings were just a bit over 9mil according to the killmail.
You forgot to add the price of Platinum Insurance which is 11mil, so you lost 3mil overall. |
Vidi Angelus
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.11.16 19:35:00 - [ 15]
Originally by: Amber Bock
Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre
Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 16/11/2009 16:54:12
Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 16/11/2009 16:53:27
Yeah well... to think I have actually made a profit off of this. Insurance was 37mil, the ship I got for 20mil and the fittings were just a bit over 9mil according to the killmail.
Yaaay.
I also hate it how people call trolls so easily just cause it's a cool meme.
People call troll because its a brand new alt, hence no picture. Flying a hurricane in 0.0. Which sounds like a troll.
Are you serious? Nano Shield tanked Hurricane is plenty worth flying. |
CCP Atropos
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Posted - 2009.11.16 21:36:00 - [ 16]
I'm actually intimately familiar with that gate having spent many years based from one system over, EZA-FM. The reblier gate is great for camping, primarily because it's an Empire gate. The EZA-FM and PVH8-0 gates are together in a pair, which means by placing a Mobile Warp Disruptor behind the reblier gate, as I think these guys must have done, you get pulled past it and into the bubble.
If you want to bounce around the bubble you need to either come in from the 6E-578 gate or the station, however since both are low (beneath the Reblier gate by a large margin and angle), with large bubbles it's easy to cover all the angles.
I've personally got several bookmarks to avoid exactly these situations, coming in from angles that no normal travel would come from, ie: above and to the side of the Reblier gate.
Unfortunately for you, what you experienced was normal gameplay and as such won't be reimbursed. |
Doomed Predator
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.11.16 21:38:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: CCP Atropos
I'm actually intimately familiar with that gate having spent many years based from one system over, EZA-FM. The reblier gate is great for camping, primarily because it's an Empire gate. The EZA-FM and PVH8-0 gates are together in a pair, which means by placing a Mobile Warp Disruptor behind the reblier gate, as I think these guys must have done, you get pulled past it and into the bubble.
If you want to bounce around the bubble you need to either come in from the 6E-578 gate or the station, however since both are low (beneath the Reblier gate by a large margin and angle), with large bubbles it's easy to cover all the angles.
I've personally got several bookmarks to avoid exactly these situations, coming in from angles that no normal travel would come from, ie: above and to the side of the Reblier gate.
Unfortunately for you, what you experienced was normal gameplay and as such won't be reimbursed.
Wait, a dev who actually plays the game? This cannot be. |
CCP Atropos
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Posted - 2009.11.16 21:41:00 - [ 18]
Originally by: Doomed Predator
Wait, a dev who actually plays the game? This cannot be.
Don't let anyone know; can't have the stereotypes being proved wrong, y'know.  |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.11.16 22:22:00 - [ 19]
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Grarr Wrexx |
Posted - 2009.11.16 22:32:00 - [ 20]
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet |
Posted - 2009.11.16 22:39:00 - [ 21]
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Khemul Zula
Amarr
Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.11.16 22:54:00 - [ 22]
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Cypherous
Minmatar
Lions of Judah Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.11.16 22:59:00 - [ 23]
Originally by: CCP Atropos
I'm actually intimately familiar with that having spent many years based from one system over, EZA-FM. That gate is great for camping, primarily because it's an Empire gate. The EZA-FM and PVH8-0 gates are together in a pair, which means by placing a Mobile Warp Disruptor behind the gate, as I think these guys must have done, you get pulled past the gate and into the bubble.
Yes i remember those days, not all good but much pew pew was had by all involved... mostly at me :P But yes bubbles suck (pun intended) and either having prior warning and BM's made or a strategic cruiser with the interdiction nullifier subsystem are a must to avoid bubbles :P |
Ryhss
Caldari
The Excecutorans
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Posted - 2009.11.16 23:03:00 - [ 24]
Edited by: Ryhss on 16/11/2009 23:03:37 Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre
And I'm not whining at all - it's not the first Hurricane I've lost. I was just curious as to why that happened. And I got my answer.
And yeah, I was in 6-CZ49 going to jump into Reblier. My bad.
Don't let all the forum patrons scare you. I never thought you were whining, the way I read it to, was you warping into Reb. |
master chiefy
Caldari
The Perfect Storm
Gentlemen's Club |
Posted - 2009.11.16 23:11:00 - [ 25]
Originally by: Ryhss
Don't let all the forum nzai's scare you. I never thought you were whining, the way I read it to, was you warping into Reb.
How? He said he lost it in Reb.  |
Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp |
Posted - 2009.11.16 23:19:00 - [ 26]
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JeanMichel Bizarre
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita |
Posted - 2009.11.17 08:03:00 - [ 27]
Still there is something I don't understand and if someone could explain this I would be greatful.
What is it in a warp disruption bubble that causes you to get sucked towards it? What is the logical explanation behind this game mechanic? |
Melor Rend |
Posted - 2009.11.17 08:07:00 - [ 28]
Originally by: yakamuri zelda
Is something that CCP would reimburse?
ROFL that was a good one!  I guess this is a new feature as part of Domination... you now have to upgrade your ships autopilot (costs only 50mil ISK per day!) so it does the same **** it does now. It's called "fixing" I believe. |
Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative. |
Posted - 2009.11.17 08:10:00 - [ 29]
Edited by: Durzel on 17/11/2009 08:12:24 Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre
What is the logical explanation behind this game mechanic?
Makes gatecamps more dynamic? *shrug* |
JeanMichel Bizarre
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita |
Posted - 2009.11.17 08:22:00 - [ 30]
I understand that but not what is it in a bubble that makes the gate push you beyond it, way over to 30kms. |
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