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Madam Forumalt
Posted - 2009.11.16 04:13:00 - [1]
 

So, in my ragethread, which I shall be posting under an alt that everyone who is anyone already knows is me.. then again, I probably will manage to reply with my main anyhow, ruining what little cover this alt has..

Uhh anyway, back to the topic at hand.

As we all know, facebook is a great social networking tool. Not only does it allow us to communicate with friends we know, it allowed us to communicate with friends we had.. Or thought we had. Not only that, but it lets people who are not friends, communicate between mutual friend's pages.

Normally, this would not be an issue. Unless there happens to be a minor feud at hand, involving innocent people in the middle. Now, some of you might recognize petty high school arguments by this point... Of course, now we shall introduce the concept of 'girls'. Yes, a weird concept, but none the less one that is a rather focal point of this issue.

As it happens, there is this one girl. She is a rather fine young lass, with luxurious locks of hair and a comforting figure. Anyway, this fine lady is naturally a year under me in high school.. And I chose to pursue a relationship far too late. With all the AP classes, studying for finals, college applications/essays/followups, we got no where (ok, I didnt really try.. besides the point).

Come the next year, our fine gal is now a senior, with myself gone off many hours away (the poem, 'my bonnie lies over the ocean' comes to mind..) Anyway. Thats over and done with, I attempt to move on.. But of course, no attempt is ever compete without some complete douche trying to ruin it.

The douche in our case, is one that I am displeased to say that I called him a friend. He was, quite possibly, one of the few people I knew who I felt I got along with.. We even got as far as sharing steam IDs (not something i give out lightly mind you, especially not to RL people. I do try to keep those worlds separate). Getting back to the point, he was someone I trusted. Big mistake.

Come last month, somehow, he and my lass got together. I dont know the extent of their relationship, but it is there.. Of course, he being the absolute ******* he is, thought it would be cool to rub it in my face for the first few weeks. Many inflammatory posts go back and forth, on facebook and over steam. Debates were had, etc. Now, this is something we usually do without problem; We get along, we debate, but at the end of the day, it is all in good fun. However, because of our innocent bystander (the lass mentioned above), our debates turned personal, into arguments. Whatever, I say. I will be no worse off without this jerk as my friend, so I unfriend him. This seems to solve most of the issue, until..

So our innocent femme here posts some inconsequential facebook post, and i 'like' it. One of her friends is like "why do you keep liking all her posts", and of course, being as logically minded as I am, I do research on the matter.. Research shows that I respond to 2/7th of our girl's statuses. Hardly all. I post this.. And her friend promptly calls me a stalker. I post something inflammatory (****, shes gonna insult me like that, ima get her ass back). naturally, looking back 20 minutes later, I see how much of an ass I myself was, and post an apology. Cant have something like that on my 'record'..

So me, whistling away, figured I was in the clear. Then, out of nowhere, our resident asshat comes up and posts: "<referring to me> if you made real friends you wouldn't suck so bad. Don't respond, if only for <our gal>'s sake"

Normally I would take this in stride and keep walking.. But I cannot. However, I cannot give him the satisfaction of a response.. I cant let him know that he has cut me, deep.

</rant>

TL:DR
I want girl
He takes girl
We argue
Im hurt

Also, Moar music

This part of my post is for the sole reason of raising the character count to 4 thousand..

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.11.16 04:56:00 - [2]
 

So you're mad at your friend for making a move after you clearly didn't and moved away?


Madam Forumalt
Posted - 2009.11.16 05:03:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Intense Thinker
So you're mad at your friend for making a move after you clearly didn't and moved away?



My friend moved to a different state. At least I stayed instate ugh

Orion Eridanus
Dark Ashes
Posted - 2009.11.16 05:28:00 - [4]
 

Only one solution now













Hooker orgy

Teetxe
Posted - 2009.11.16 06:16:00 - [5]
 

So ..
-You had the girl
-Didnt really try to keep her at all.
-Lost the girl.
-Friend gets the girl.
-Friend taunts you, because as you pointed out .. you two have always done so in jest.
-You be a little *** and get all defensive because your now faced your flaws as a person.
-You Dismiss your friend out of spite.
-Now you wanna try suckup to her.

.. Your a small person, you [email protected] up, You made mistakes.. move on and learn from them.

Worst case scenario, you find another girl at some point thats even better. (it will happen if you dont go looking and just do your own thing and dont be a spiteful little *****)

Best case scenario, Your friends as big a douche as you and she leaves him and you have a chance to make **** right (Dont Wait around for this to happen btw)

Madam Forumalt
Posted - 2009.11.16 06:25:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Teetxe
So ..
-You had the girl
-Didnt really try to keep her at all.
-Lost the girl.
-Friend gets the girl.
-Friend taunts you, because as you pointed out .. you two have always done so in jest.
-You be a little *** and get all defensive because your now faced your flaws as a person.
-You Dismiss your friend out of spite.
-Now you wanna try suckup to her.

.. Your a small person, you [email protected] up, You made mistakes.. move on and learn from them.

Worst case scenario, you find another girl at some point thats even better. (it will happen if you dont go looking and just do your own thing and dont be a spiteful little *****)

Best case scenario, Your friends as big a douche as you and she leaves him and you have a chance to make **** right (Dont Wait around for this to happen btw)
I could agree with most of that, but what he has done goes deeper than what we have ever done in jest. We never really did anything that serious, just minor crap..
As per sucking up to her, thats not the issue at hand here. The issue is that the moron i once considered my friend has dealt me an insult with which I cannot deal with.

Then again, the entire thread was really here because I needed to type it all out (its how I get things of my mind..) and I wanted to see what the eve-o forums thought about it. Probably silly idea retrospectively.

Nick119
Minmatar
Interstealler Research and Mining
Posted - 2009.11.16 08:12:00 - [7]
 

Tell your friend to go Flock himself. Bro code is bros before hoes. Bragging because you have a ***** doesn't mean anything theres always a better girl. Even if you did mess up it doesn't matter your friend seems like a jackass.

dr doooo
Posted - 2009.11.16 11:10:00 - [8]
 

Don't burn any more bridges, try and see things from the others perspectives, suck it up and play it cool. From what you say I would guess that your friend was just trying to get things in the open and clear the air by communicating with you in the normal language of your friendship (as you say). Unfortunately, there were too many varied emotions going on for both of you for things to be discussed in such basic language, and I'd guess both of you felt misunderstood and wronged. Lets things settle in everyones heads, and then decide to try communicating honestly with him or leave him behind.

The girl may well think either that you assumed there was more between you two than she did, or a bit hurt by the way you behaved. From your post I would say the one certain thing though is that you need to leave the girl alone for a while at least, and don't rise to the bait of the *****y drama vultures, as they are her friends. As you say, this is all 'high school' type stuff, and will soon be lost in the past.


Cridil
Caldari
Saracen's salvage
Posted - 2009.11.16 12:52:00 - [9]
 

I get the feeling you were expecting the story to end something like this.



".....So our innocent femme here posts some inconsequential facebook post, and i 'like' it. One of her friends is like "You know what you would be better for her then that douche she is with now". Eventualy my ex friend is just to much of a douchbag for this girl. She then comes around and realises it was me she loved all along and we have just exchanged purity rings".

What worries me about your post is the following lines:

Of course, now we shall introduce the concept of 'girls'. Yes, a weird concept, but none the less one that is a rather focal point of this issue.
Girls! a concept? and weird?

She is a rather fine young lass, with luxurious locks of hair and a comforting figure.
This makes you sound like you should be locked up.

The douche in our case, is one that I am displeased to say that I called him a friend. He was, quite possibly, one of the few people I knew who I felt I got along with.. We even got as far as sharing steam IDs
Laughing

Come last month, somehow, he and my lass got together. I dont know the extent of their relationship, but it is there..
This makes you sound paranoid and scary.

<our gal>
Why treat her like a human being when you can class her as your property.


I think you should stop seeing yourself as some kind of misunderstood nice guy in a Disney Teen drama, and accept the fact that you are coming across as some kind of creepy weirdo.
Seriously every time you think of yourself as victim in all this, or use Emo Disney teen style rock music as a way to identify with your emotions. Ask someone to beat you with a big stick until reality and the real world become clear.




Madam Forumalt
Posted - 2009.11.16 17:33:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Cridil
*a post about stuff*

As much as Id love to write up a response to all that, im too busy laughing Laughing

The point of the story here was done far before it was posted, although i am glad you think that I should be in a prison rotting away someplace Laughing
I wrote teh story from that angle for a reason; It was the angle that I felt would best be read by the eve-o forum populace.

Anyway, I thank you all for reading my post, and do ask that next time you post humorous responses again ugh

Arik VanClaw
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2009.11.16 18:00:00 - [11]
 

I agree with the Bro code. He obviously knew you liked this girl if you two were really friends to start. Very **** of him to go after her. At the very least he should have made his intentions known to you at the start and it would have saved much of the drama being experienced now.

So what now? You're hurt, I get that, we've all been there. You definitely need to vent some, take a week or two and just be ****ed at the whole world and hate everything. And then look back on it and decide if it's really worth feeling that way all the time. After that I guess you have to decide if your pride is more important to you than this friend. Because that is essentially what has been hurt here. He wronged you, and is not big enough a person to admit it and apologize. So the question now becomes are you big enough to let his transgression slide.

On the one hand, if it's to much to bear, you're only real options for not driving yourself crazy thinking about the two of them is to cut off contact, try not to focus on the pain, be altruistic, help others in need. I find this to be the best way of taking the focus off yourself and getting back to reality. World is a **** place, and when you see how awful a lot of people have it, really makes you appreciate the things in your own life, no matter how ****ty they seem at the moment.

On the other, if you can deal with the fact that they are together without it making you ill everytime you think of it, maybe talk to him, just express that you understand there are no obligations in this scenario, but you were hurt, would appreciate some form of apology to help you get past it and if he can provide that the two of you can move forward with your friendship. If not your back to square one and deciding if you really want to be friends with such an insensitive prick.

Concerning said girl, well, I know it may not seem like it now but they really are a dime a dozen. Quote that helped me a lot "For every hot chick you see, there's some guy out there sick of putting up with her bull**** and tired of ****ing her."

So go out, live your life, maybe do some of the things I suggested, or not. Just remember you're a human being, your life has value, even if those two choose not to see it.

Others will.


Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
Posted - 2009.11.16 18:18:00 - [12]
 

Petrol bomb his house, it's the only way to be sure! Wink

Cridil
Caldari
Saracen's salvage
Posted - 2009.11.16 18:57:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Madam Forumalt

The point of the story here was done far before it was posted


And her friend promptly calls me a stalker.
Her friends point.

"<referring to me> if you made real friends you wouldn't suck so bad. Don't respond, if only for <our gal>'s sake"
Your friends point.

Two good points that maybe you should reflect on before you make a post full of stomach turning self pity.

Originally by: Madam Forumalt

I wrote teh story from that angle for a reason; It was the angle that I felt would best be read by the eve-o forum populace.


What! you wanted it to come across sounding like a Greek tragedy?
It doesnt really matter what angle you post this whine from as you will always come across looking stupid in the end.


Originally by: Madam Forumalt

Anyway, I thank you all for reading my post, and do ask that next time you post humorous responses again


Your a social inadequate who is stalking his ex girlfriend there is nothing of humour to say.

Madam Forumalt
Posted - 2009.11.16 19:22:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Cridil
*more pointless drivel about how he didnt understand the point of the post*


Lets go over this again, shall we.
When something happens to me, I need to type it out. I ****ing hate writing, but typing really calms me down, getting the story on the screen. Once its there, written for (nobody, usually) people to see, I generally just delete it..

But then again, I was bored. Wanted to see what kind of response I get, and boy was it worth it Laughing

About the stomach turning self pity.. that was the whole point of typing it out. Once its all typed out, then I am calm again.. back in control.

And of course I wanted it to sound like a tragedy, every single thing youve read is biased by the author. In this case, its biased towards my friend being someone nobody else wants to be friends with, and how ive been wronged, and think things should be made right (with purity rings and a disneyland ending, if you really wanted.. could rewrite it all just for you Laughing)

And I realize that I look stupid, hence the alt. Granted, teh few people that actually know my main here havent actually responded, so I feel rather safe for the moment.

And while you might think there is nothing of humor to say, you should view this as a troll post. It has a controversial subject, a sad ending, and asks nothing of the reader. yet you still responded. every single one of your posts has left me laughing at the end.

Cridil
Caldari
Saracen's salvage
Posted - 2009.11.16 19:29:00 - [15]
 

I understand now, your a Sociopath.

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.11.16 19:52:00 - [16]
 

That's totally Arvald

Madam Forumalt
Posted - 2009.11.16 20:10:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Intense Thinker
That's totally Arvald

Im honored, but no, if it was Arv he wouldve mentioned all the awesome fun he had beating up some guy LARP'ing while his friend was out with the girl.

Penelope Planetkiller
Posted - 2009.11.16 21:55:00 - [18]
 


Madam Forumalt
Posted - 2009.11.16 21:59:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Penelope Planetkiller
I'm sorry I couldn't resist...

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Made me lol :D

Also, now I have to biomass this character.. >.>

Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Posted - 2009.11.16 22:28:00 - [20]
 

I agree with the Bro code.

As stated above, at the very least he should have at least cleared it with you.

All else I can say is that I hope you learn from this situation.


Originally by: Penelope Planetkiller
I'm sorry I couldn't resist...

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.


Fraking Classic!!!


Slade

Laciter
Posted - 2009.11.16 22:37:00 - [21]
 

It sounds more like you are the one with the problem. You had your chance, you didn't take it. Your friend did. The part where it gets sticky is where you claim he was rubbing it in your face. I think this is more a matter of your perception than anything else.

To add to this, some people misinterpreting the bro-code. You didn't make a move, she was never your girlfriend, therefore you have no right to be ****ed to at him or her. Adherence to the bro-code would state that you put aside your own feelings and be happy for your friend and the girl.

But then your maybe your "friend" is right. Seriously, if you think giving someone your steam ID is akin to a blood-pact, I have to think his advice that you get real friends might be spot on.

General advice: Don't post negative statements about anyone online. It doesn't matter if you delete it, there is a permanent record somewhere of anything you do online, including e-mail. If you can't avoid the drama, just delete your facebook account and cut yourself off.

As far as the rest, if you are attracted to a woman, make a move. If you don't it's your own fault. In the adult world, hot chicks get hit on by men probably 30 times a day. If you are too much of a ***** to make a move, then you better get used to rosy palms.

Darius JOHNSON
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.11.16 22:44:00 - [22]
 

you're going to die alone

mettisitis sindicis
Posted - 2009.11.16 22:53:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Cridil

I think you should stop seeing yourself as some kind of misunderstood nice guy in a Disney Teen drama, and accept the fact that you are coming across as some kind of creepy weirdo.
Seriously every time you think of yourself as victim in all this, or use Emo Disney teen style rock music as a way to identify with your emotions. Ask someone to beat you with a big stick until reality and the real world become clear.




QFT. Having a sympathetic character being obsessed with some girl he can't have or are too much of a ***** to make a move, seems to be a common element in TVs in movies. In real life, it doesn't make you sympathetic or "nice" it's just makes you a creepy, possessive stalker.

Madam Forumalt
Posted - 2009.11.16 23:18:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Laciter

To add to this, some people misinterpreting the bro-code. You didn't make a move, she was never your girlfriend, therefore you have no right to be ****ed to at him or her. Adherence to the bro-code would state that you put aside your own feelings and be happy for your friend and the girl

Oh no, you underestimate this abomination that I once considered my friend.
He will, and has gone out of his way just to **** people off, just never this distance (with me at least).
he then proceeded to make multiple comments in a manner that could be described only as rubbing it in my face..

However, it seems that people still dont understand. I get it, that me and her would never happen anymore (as stated, I had my chance and didnt take it), and I am largely over that. However, 'bro code' my ass, this jerk doesnt deserve her and she deserves better, even if that isnt me (and as stated, the popular opinion is that im a misunderstood stalker who will never get anywhere *shrugs*)

And as per giving someone my steam ID being a blood pact, im still laughing about that. It was merely a way I could describe to other introverted peoples our friendship. It was a rather odd one ill give you that..

'dont post negative statements about anyone online'
Not entirely sure where that came from, as I havent, well except for this thread Laughing I am typically a rather composed person, and very rarely will you see me to the point of physical violence; mental violence is where I specialize, and that simply cannot be done when you are clouded by anger.

So naturally, I write this up to de-cloud myself. And it rather did work wonderfully. As stated MANY times above, this was merely my way of clearing my head.

As per dieing alone, then so be it. A life seems so much simpler when you take out girls from the picture.

And let me reiterate, The disneyland ending I really dont care about. Yes sure, I probably did write my story to that angle.. Probably could have done that better. Unfortunately, too late to rewrite the whole damn thing. Besides, I havent the state of mind for writing now.

And as a side note, I do love the eve-o forums. You tell them that a thread might as well be a troll, and they still respond...
Not entirely sure why yet.. So as an addendum, why did you respond to this thread? Was it just an awesome story and thought I could use a bit of refinement in my writing?

Bestofworst
Gallente
Posted - 2009.11.16 23:19:00 - [25]
 


Laciter
Posted - 2009.11.16 23:34:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Madam Forumalt

However, it seems that people still dont understand. I get it, that me and her would never happen anymore (as stated, I had my chance and didnt take it), and I am largely over that. However, 'bro code' my ass, this jerk doesnt deserve her and she deserves better, even if that isnt me (and as stated, the popular opinion is that im a misunderstood stalker who will never get anywhere *shrugs*)



She chose to go out with him. It sounds like you think she is too stupid and weak to make her own decisions about whom to date. How can she deserve better if she is that dumb and weak? How can she deserve better if she did in fact choose him over other guys?

Madam Forumalt
Posted - 2009.11.17 01:37:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Laciter
Originally by: Madam Forumalt

However, it seems that people still dont understand. I get it, that me and her would never happen anymore (as stated, I had my chance and didnt take it), and I am largely over that. However, 'bro code' my ass, this jerk doesnt deserve her and she deserves better, even if that isnt me (and as stated, the popular opinion is that im a misunderstood stalker who will never get anywhere *shrugs*)



She chose to go out with him. It sounds like you think she is too stupid and weak to make her own decisions about whom to date. How can she deserve better if she is that dumb and weak? How can she deserve better if she did in fact choose him over other guys?

Right you see..
I cant for the life of me figure out what she saw/sees in him. I seriously cant. but *shrugs* as stated, it no longer really matters what I think anymore, as I've forfeit that privilege when I didnt make my move.
Anyway, nice picture BoW/WoB/whatever you call yourself today.

Teetxe
Posted - 2009.11.17 05:27:00 - [28]
 

I wouldnt stress bro, you've accepted that theres not much you can do. Now just be cool, dont react to drama. As for the so called friend i woudlnt stress about that either. I once had a friend for 5 years, my best friend. He decided his new group of drughead friends and him should play a prank on me ... when I found out i told him i'd kill him if i ever saw him again. He's never attempted to contact me. Long story short, **** comes and **** goes .. just keep rolling.

If the guy truely is a douche bag, then eventually she'll figure it out. If not, just remind yourself .. women are stupid and always pick jerks over the nice guy =P Sad but true when it comes to hotties.

Madam Forumalt
Posted - 2009.11.17 05:35:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Teetxe
I wouldnt stress bro, you've accepted that theres not much you can do. Now just be cool, dont react to drama. As for the so called friend i woudlnt stress about that either. I once had a friend for 5 years, my best friend. He decided his new group of drughead friends and him should play a prank on me ... when I found out i told him i'd kill him if i ever saw him again. He's never attempted to contact me. Long story short, **** comes and **** goes .. just keep rolling.

If the guy truely is a douche bag, then eventually she'll figure it out. If not, just remind yourself .. women are stupid and always pick jerks over the nice guy =P Sad but true when it comes to hotties.

Probably because the nice guy is too nice to properly compete with the jerk. Subservience isnt exactly something that (most) women seem to want..

Whatever. Doesnt really matter at this point.
Not even sure why im still posting here at this point. I suppose itd be fair to say that while im no longer angry, I am still rather confused, and trying to figure it out.. But then again, you people couldnt really help with any of that.. you hardly know anything except what ive given you, that is rather skewed at best.

Thanks to everyone anyway Very Happy


 

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