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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2009.11.14 07:29:00 - [91]
 

Edited by: Nova Fox on 14/11/2009 07:30:21
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Nova Fox
PC games have been dying they been dying for the last 5 years.
Traditional store distributed pc games have been dying. Just check any of the current online shops like steam or impulse and you will see pages and pages of brand new pc games from both big name developers and indy devs that have really good games but could never convince a major publisher to take the risk of pressing and distributing the disks. I don't even bother with regular stores anymore and just buy from whatever online shop is selling it the cheapest.


Last thing I bough from steam was Cogs over a month ago. None the less that one thing that has changed lately is the rise of indi developers but they're not a pc only phenom, theyre on all platforms.

N'tek alar
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.11.14 08:00:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: Nova Fox
Edited by: Nova Fox on 14/11/2009 07:30:21
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Nova Fox
PC games have been dying they been dying for the last 5 years.
Traditional store distributed pc games have been dying. Just check any of the current online shops like steam or impulse and you will see pages and pages of brand new pc games from both big name developers and indy devs that have really good games but could never convince a major publisher to take the risk of pressing and distributing the disks. I don't even bother with regular stores anymore and just buy from whatever online shop is selling it the cheapest.


Last thing I bough from steam was Cogs over a month ago. None the less that one thing that has changed lately is the rise of indi developers but they're not a pc only phenom, theyre on all platforms.


Yes, Clearly because you haven't bought anything for a WHOLE MONTH from steam, PC gaming is dying!11!

Dramaan
Posted - 2009.11.14 08:26:00 - [93]
 

Edited by: Dramaan on 14/11/2009 08:48:18
This is not good game and why is so short game?
The story urgh where did they get so horible story form?

And you get send from difrent places in world so many times that you wonder is this realy helping or is a side mission.

Best bet buy Gost Recon There you get good fps game good story and you feel like you doing difrens only negative is the gfx but realy good game that is worth the money.

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2009.11.14 11:20:00 - [94]
 

Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 14/11/2009 11:26:07
Heh I guess them having made a lazy ass copy of the previous game has some benefits. It seems they just altered the original code, so all the things required to use dedicated servers, console and lean is still part of the program. From reading about the few mods trying to get it working, it seems workable, but IW is threatening some of them with legal action if they don't stop the development.

I don't think that will stop people from making such a mod, but the guy who does it will propably want to remain anonymous.

AlleyKat
Gallente
The Unwanted.
Posted - 2009.11.14 11:22:00 - [95]
 

I have the first game on PC. It was good in parts and I think I got my monies worth, but this new game...doubt I'll get it until it drops in price, which could be quite a while given that it's gonna be more popular than toast.

The game I'm really waiting for is BATTLEFIELD III - just knowing the game is on the way is awesome, before mentioning the facts; PC exclusive...Frostbite 2 game engine...DX11...DICE on-board...destructible environment.

It should be the second coming of multi-player fps...fingers crossed.

AK

Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr
Inadeptus Mechanicus
Posted - 2009.11.14 11:31:00 - [96]
 

I think i might get it in half a year or so if my computer can handle it.

Then the price have gone down and i want to play through the singleplayer. I rather liked it in the first game.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2009.11.14 11:58:00 - [97]
 

Edited by: Nova Fox on 14/11/2009 12:00:36
Originally by: N'tek alar
Yes, Clearly because you haven't bought anything for a WHOLE MONTH from steam, PC gaming is dying!11!


Let me rephrase that, COGs the only thing I have ever bought from steam.

Ghost Recon the first one, was probably the last PC shooter I bought for PC and I'll agree with PC users here, consoles bastardized that game's sequels.

Gartil
Posted - 2009.11.14 12:16:00 - [98]
 

I tried a "demo" version of it, and the entire singleplayer campaign took me a little under 5 hours to complete, now you do have the spec ops bite size missions, but they're not that hot.

So since multiplayer is kinda sucky. You're paying 50 euros or so for 5 hours of gaming.... not exactly a good deal.

Captian Conrad
Minmatar
Empyrean Warriors
Posted - 2009.11.14 12:27:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Bestofworst
Not paying for it at all, but I will have fun playing it.

hehe, this

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2009.11.14 15:31:00 - [100]
 

Edited by: Mag''s on 14/11/2009 15:42:16
Originally by: Nova Fox

Last thing I bough from steam was Cogs over a month ago. None the less that one thing that has changed lately is the rise of indi developers but they're not a pc only phenom, theyre on all platforms.


None is disputing the fact that console are a massive part of the gaming community, but to say PC gaming is dying because retail stores have small areas for it, is frankly stupid.
You may not PC game as much now, but that doesn't mean many others don't.

I, quite honestly, find console gaming to be dull and moronic, filled with teenagers and bad language.

As far as buying games is concerned, I cannot remember the last time I bough a game from a retail store in the street.
All my games are bough on-line from either steam or play.com, depending on the price.

Also I'm quite aware the Nvidia /AMD ATi make other things than Gaming cards, but graphics cards are a massive part of their industry.
Hence why they get so much support and new cards are released on a regular basis.

Edit: Oh and on the piracy thing, do you really think that's limited to the PC.
Hell the first pirate copy of MW2 was an XBox version.
Piracy is rife upon the console gaming scene.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2009.11.15 04:51:00 - [101]
 

Piracy isnt limited to PC of course, but on consoles its alot easier to make that 300$ investment locked out of all the offical stuff.

Vaerk One
Amarr
Red Federation
Posted - 2009.11.16 01:18:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: 0n 1
^^ lol another console 'settle for less' nubbie Laughing


wow, an actual fanboy.Rolling Eyes

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2009.11.16 05:10:00 - [103]
 

currently running around dual weilding shotguns and when asked why I said 'to make things fair'

Crewman Jenkins
Caldari
Malicious Demi-Lancers
Posted - 2009.11.16 10:27:00 - [104]
 

Ill not pay for this atrocity

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2009.11.16 14:00:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Nova Fox
PC games have been dying they been dying for the last 5 years.


They have been dying for over 30 years now, though the "console vs pc" gaming argument has only truly begun to raise it's head above the ****pool since the playstation 1.

PC games won't be dying any time soon. The PC is the primary platform for new technologies aswell as the primary platform to go online on, despite what MS execs would have you think. A console is static, and while it serves to make developers use every inch of hardware they're given, true progress is only made on the PC. If there were no PC gaming we'd all still be playing Double Dragon in glorious 320x200 pixels and 256 colors, since there would be no incentive to improve the hardware, and as a result, gameplay possibilities. Do i even have to mention mods?

And lets not gloss over the most important thing: Here you are, saying PC games are dying while you and 300,000 other people are shelling out $15 a month to play just 1 game online, a game which is a pc exclusive through and through.

MaxPower 519
Gallente
Dirt Nap Squad
Posted - 2009.11.16 14:44:00 - [106]
 

beat the game on Regular took about 4 hours.. Tried Hardened took about 5 hours.... now I'm on Veteran and it wont take more then 6 hours...

the single player is ok and nothing more just ok... cant play online yet because I didn't buy the game :) not wasting my money on this fail boat! The thing that ****es me of the most is that there is no leaning to the left/right its all strafe all over the map... its rather gay! Now I wait for the Haxxorz to come out with a online crack with dedicated servers :)

Irida Mershkov
Gallente
The Reformed
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2009.11.16 16:33:00 - [107]
 

Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 16/11/2009 16:50:41
Wish the single player was a bit longer, I'm two missions from the end apparently but damn it's very fun.

Been having some good games with EVE players on the 360, brofist to lordswift1 especially. Cool

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2009.11.16 21:55:00 - [108]
 

Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 16/11/2009 22:35:16
It didn't take that long before the game got altered. Not the most flattering example of what is possible, but an example of getting rid of the initial constraints. Looking forward to see what they can come up with in the coming weeks.Linkage


Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2009.11.16 23:13:00 - [109]
 

and that one example you showed is very along the lines of the 12yr old player wants.

Bestofworst
Gallente
Posted - 2009.11.16 23:16:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Nova Fox
and that one example you showed is very along the lines of the 12yr old player wants.
Sometimes a server to just **** around and have fun with is great, especially ina ging games like TF2 and COD 4. The video was more of a demonstration that they CAN modify the servers.

Laciter
Posted - 2009.11.16 23:41:00 - [111]
 

I'm still waiting for the next Rainbow Six installment.

Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
Posted - 2009.11.17 00:06:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Laciter
I'm still waiting for the next Rainbow Six installment.


Rainbow Six: Town just south of Vegas, about 32 miles away?

MooKids
Caldari
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.11.17 05:50:00 - [113]
 

DEDICATED SERVERS FOR MODERN WARFARE 2!

The only catch, it isn't officially supported since hackers got access to the console and were able to set up the dedicated server support themselves. No response from IW or Activision yet, this should be interesting.

Ella C'Tronix
Posted - 2009.11.17 07:55:00 - [114]
 

I had the opportunity to play COD MW2 for 3 days at release.

I must say - I was pretty appalled that a modern game with such strong sales and so much hype was released with HORRID graphics, a campaign that can be beat in 2 hours and multiplayer featuring the most boring maps ever created for an FPS multiplayer experience (with possibly one or two exceptions).

I'm glad I didn't buy it without trying it.
On the positive side, there were some cool things they did with the story, some neat character reveals and action sequences. I'd have been a lot more content if it was premium DLC content for the previous game somehow, as i've certainly played DLC for other games that cost me about 5-10 bucks that lasted 7x as long.

Of course, people buy/play it for the multiplayer too, but like I hinted at with the map comment, it's largely uninspired and not very interesting. The only thing that kept me going is the desire to unlock various upgrades. But ultimately, it wasn't enough. The maps were definitely the biggest problem for me, and I really have no interest in sitting on it for a few months to wait and be charged a bunch of money to download slightly better mediocre maps when they release them.

Kravick Drasani
Posted - 2009.11.17 08:11:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Ella C'Tronix

I really have no interest in sitting on it for a few months to wait and be charged a bunch of money to download slightly better mediocre maps when they release them.


Welcome to the era of nickel and dime gaming. This is why these companies use piracy as a scapegoat on the PC. They can't nickel and dime PC users as easily.

Piracy is a red herring anyway so it doesn't matter.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2009.11.17 10:15:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Crewman Jenkins
Ill not pay for this atrocity


I hope this isnt you.

SpaceMagic
Amarr
Posted - 2009.11.17 10:48:00 - [117]
 

Jst Completed the campaign i have to agree it is pretty small i dont it in 3 hours but it is an amazing story, and as for the graphics they seem to be pretty awsome to me, there is one map 'terminal' not to shore about the graphics on that seems to coulourful to me idk maybe jst me overall i think its a good game and 45 well spent

Ella C'Tronix
Posted - 2009.11.17 11:19:00 - [118]
 

On HD consoles, the graphics are absolutely horrid compared to other games.
Mostly the lighting and textures, less noticeable on characters than everything else.
Probably not as obvious on PC due to higher resolutions but the textures and colors would still look like crap and the lighting is still all wrong.


Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
Posted - 2009.11.17 11:30:00 - [119]
 

I don't know if that was the same everywhere with the ad-campaign, but here they kinda said, like superimposed on the screen "the most anticipated game of THE DECADE!". I read a few game magazines and not one of those has ever said something to that effect. I wonder why... haha

It's a game. I personally find it incredibly brave to put a game that has many or most common features missing, on the market, hoping people will still buy it. Let's see in three months what the actual selling stats were in the first few days, AND the stats after.

For me I'm much more excited about Mass Effect 2 which comes in spring. Sure, it's not like CoD but the first one was unique, great story, I cleared that one. To be honest I can't wait for the second.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2009.11.17 12:33:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Dan O'Connor
I don't know if that was the same everywhere with the ad-campaign, but here they kinda said, like superimposed on the screen "the most anticipated game of THE DECADE!". I read a few game magazines and not one of those has ever said something to that effect. I wonder why... haha

It's a game. I personally find it incredibly brave to put a game that has many or most common features missing, on the market, hoping people will still buy it. Let's see in three months what the actual selling stats were in the first few days, AND the stats after.

For me I'm much more excited about Mass Effect 2 which comes in spring. Sure, it's not like CoD but the first one was unique, great story, I cleared that one. To be honest I can't wait for the second.


This game broke day 1 entertainment product record.

Meaning on its first day this game outsold any other entertainment product you can think of, concert tickets, music albums, movie tickets, dvds/vhs, and video games.

Raking in an impressive 310$ million dollars which could have easily paid for the production of the flabergastic failsauce movie G.I. Joe places this ahead of the previous record holder Halo 3 which had been at the time the blame for hollywoods worst month in over a decade. The previous holder of the title before halo 3 was Jurrasic Park 2 and before then the Empire Strikes Back the first showing.

What has made CoD such a successful series is being able to 'experince' some of our favorite military fanatic moments we've seen in the media. The biggest nod was probably Saving Private Ryan, which itself changed wold war 2 movies forever, at the time medal of honor never came close to delivering. Other nods have been to Enemy at the Gates, The Rock, Black Hawk Down, News Media of the ac130 video and many more I cannot recall of. Then to top things off they continue to add thier own experinces that have yet to be seen anywhere. Fourtuante the first CoDs had a rich history of ww2 to pull from. Bringing that level of intensity to a mordern battlefield however had to be penned form scratch almost but in the end it vastly paid off becomming one of the more memorable and stacked against mordern shooters around for the higher octane arcade paced fighting.

However the number one driving factor for such negativity is probably from an activision board level decision to nix the ability for players to get thier own servers, this is probably the same reason why there are two studios working on call of duty and clear evidence that activision wants to milk the COD cow as much as possible. The other source of such negativity however is one particular mission where morals are questioned and can be extremly disturbing for a few. It grew a big enough stink that they had to patch it to allow 'skipping' the mission.


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