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Leopold Caine
Amarr
Stillwater Corporation
Posted - 2009.10.23 12:25:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Whos threatening whom exactly?


Don't advise what I should or shouldn't be careful about. I don't need such preaching from the likes of you.


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There are many battlefields colonel, and ability is nothing without opportunity. Your battlefield nostalgia is of no importance in this matter. Though it must be said that your service is deeply apreciated and serves as an inspiration to many, and you will one day see me in your system channel.


It is of highest importance, when you are presuming I would denounce the Reclaiming, whilst I have ironically been active in it. And I'm looking forward to seeing you in the system channel. I'm sure you'll be greeted with all honours, in either Goinard or Akila.

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As far as the reclaiming undertaken by our *ancestors* goes, it seems some, if not many mainstream Amarrians denounces it. And sees it as some type of minstake. Well Tribunus Colonel, do you see the glorious reclaiming as a mistake, do you denounce it? Or, do you as all loyal Amarrians long for it's revial?


Reclaiming doesn't come from killing innocent matari slaves. The point of Reclaiming is to bring peace to our waring races, not exert our power and violence over civilians. A good amarrian is like a shepherd to his matari kin. Your actions bring nothing but death and chaos to the Reclaiming.
Your problem is that your vision of the Reclaiming is wrong. Look up to Jamyl, look up to Heideran. And if you ever do come in my system channel, stop by, I'll lend you my Pax Amarria.

Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
Posted - 2009.10.23 12:48:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Leopold Caine


Don't advise what I should or shouldn't be careful about. I don't need such preaching from the likes of you.


I was simply advising you to be careful of how you might be perceived. There are many who lurk in these channels, and one might never know what perceptions they have.


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It is of highest importance, when you are presuming I would denounce the Reclaiming, whilst I have ironically been active in it.


I must commend you on your fitness. You bear your age well.


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Reclaiming doesn't come from killing innocent matari slaves. The point of Reclaiming is to bring peace to our waring races, not exert our power and violence over civilians. A good amarrian is like a shepherd to his matari kin. Your actions bring nothing but death and chaos to the Reclaiming.
Your problem is that your vision of the Reclaiming is wrong. Look up to Jamyl, look up to Heideran. And if you ever do come in my system channel, stop by, I'll lend you my Pax Amarria.


The line between civilian and soldier in matari society is a blurred one, and you know that.
And is there even such a thing as an innocent heathen? While I agree in principle with what you say, I realize that in order to bring chaos to order, one must often invoke disorder....to identify the bacteria so one could fight it.

As far as your copy of Pax Amarria goes, I must respectfully decline. Heideran was a great lawmender, but my loyalty lies with god and god only. Anything else would be heresy.

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2009.10.23 13:14:00 - [33]
 

I consider the execution of uninvolved slaves in situations such as this to be a disgraceful act.

Kazuma Ry
Amarr
Defensores Fidei
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.23 16:08:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Haraldhardrade

Heideran was a great lawmender, but my loyalty lies with god and god only. Anything else would be heresy.



Mr Hardrade,

I can understand that your loyalty is to God, but this sounds like you have no loyalty to the Empress, and I know you know this, the Empress is the voice of God. So I do pray, I am misreading this, and you do have loyalty to the Empress also. If not, I feel that you should pray, and find the path, that I feel you might be straying from.


Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
Posted - 2009.10.23 16:42:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Haraldhardrade on 23/10/2009 16:42:56
Originally by: Kazuma Ry
Originally by: Haraldhardrade

Heideran was a great lawmender, but my loyalty lies with god and god only. Anything else would be heresy.



Mr Hardrade,

I can understand that your loyalty is to God, but this sounds like you have no loyalty to the Empress, and I know you know this, the Empress is the voice of God. So I do pray, I am misreading this, and you do have loyalty to the Empress also. If not, I feel that you should pray, and find the path, that I feel you might be straying from.




My loyalty, naturally belongs to god. Since the empress is the voice of god, there is no conflict. In fact, the empress has strengthened my faith in ways you cannot imagine.


Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2009.10.23 17:19:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Haraldhardrade


My loyalty, naturally belongs to god. Since the empress is the voice of god, there is no conflict. In fact, the empress has strengthened my faith in ways you cannot imagine.




Perhaps then you could refer us all to where the Empress revoked Emperor Doriam's edict regarding the humane treatment of slaves?

Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
Posted - 2009.10.23 17:52:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Rodj Blake


Perhaps then you could refer us all to where the Empress revoked Emperor Doriam's edict regarding the humane treatment of slaves?



These are bold accusations you bring forward mr.Blake. I would like to see some evidence that supports your claim that I, Harald, has treated slaves inhumanely.

Dame Death
Minmatar
Core Impulse
Posted - 2009.10.23 18:59:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Due to the rude sillyness of Vall Kor. 5000 elderly Minmatar slaves will be executed at midnight.


Your Proof Admiral Blake much as I dislike helping PIE

Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari
Original Sin.
Posted - 2009.10.23 20:51:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Originally by: Vall Kor
Only the Amarr would find the fight for freedom 'silly'.. So typical of your kind and the reason you need to be removed from the face of New Eden.


You are deluding youself if you think there is such a thing as 'freedom'. All must submit to god, or be destroyed. Your elders have been placed in the cago bay, in a few hours they will be exposed to the vacuum.


Oh wow, like this hasn't happened before on the IGS.

You might want to just pick a number and get in line with everyone else who's looking to make themselves look all dark and evil.

Honestly... if you're going to apparently brag about performing pointless executions at least be creative.

Rolling Eyes




I for one will be executing a hundred slaves in response to the OP's misspelling of the word "Matari". Evil or Very Mad

Stratio
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Damu'Khonde
Posted - 2009.10.24 06:03:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Rodj Blake
I consider the execution of uninvolved slaves in situations such as this to be a disgraceful act.

I can see why Poreuomai always seemed to have a grudging respect when he spoke to me about Pie.

Therran Promitz
Caldari
Posted - 2009.10.24 07:33:00 - [41]
 

While the passion in your statement is admirable, you are only urging the violence we humans strive to cause.

Lord Murkon
Amarr
SPCS
Posted - 2009.10.24 17:40:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Originally by: Rodj Blake


Perhaps then you could refer us all to where the Empress revoked Emperor Doriam's edict regarding the humane treatment of slaves?



These are bold accusations you bring forward mr.Blake. I would like to see some evidence that supports your claim that I, Harald, has treated slaves inhumanely.


I would agree with even the Minmatar present... executing 5000 elderly slaves because someone said something you didn't agree with certainly seems inhumane. While there is no doubt the original poster of this communication is misguided and her message is full of untruths I would suggest bringing her and her ilk to justice a better solution. I'm sure slavery would do wonders for her and finding a relationship with God in service to Amarr would give her a real purpose.

Lord Murkon
Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Slaves

Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
Posted - 2009.10.24 21:57:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Lord Murkon
I would agree with even the Minmatar present... executing 5000 elderly slaves because someone said something you didn't agree with certainly seems inhumane. While there is no doubt the original poster of this communication is misguided and her message is full of untruths I would suggest bringing her and her ilk to justice a better solution. I'm sure slavery would do wonders for her and finding a relationship with God in service to Amarr would give her a real purpose.

Lord Murkon
Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Slaves




So she could wear a robe and memorize scripture without any real purpose? Even a parrot can memorize scripture.
I take it you are against all death penalty? If not, I would be inclined to call you a hypocrite.

It's a sad day indeed when an Amarrian feel alienated by his own kind. No wonder our enemies see us as weak and feeble. I was planning on aiding the Amarrian establishment with ships and pilots, but I now realize that it would be counter productive. A new order must be formed, a new order consisting of loyal Amarrians and allies that will not hesitate, that will not let the meddling of power mad politicians interfere with Amarrian traditions.

Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Slaves? Hah! Our enemies say that slavery is cruelty, you are between us and them. You must decide where you stand, either you are for 'cruelty' i.e slavery, or you are against it and you can be called a Gallente sympathizer. What are your gains, in this society of yours? Better trade deals, tax benefits?

My father taught me about the decadent ways of the many, how the proud will fall. Times will change for the better, even if it will take generations, times will change.

Louella Dougans
Amarr
Sovereign Hospitaller Order of Saint Katherine
Posted - 2009.10.24 22:31:00 - [44]
 

So, did you throw 5000 slaves into space at midnight as the date changed from the 22nd to the 23rd?

Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
Posted - 2009.10.24 22:39:00 - [45]
 

I did not 'throw' anything, anywhere. A custodian had the honor of pressing the button that opened the bay doors that sucked the elders into space, right before ending his shift. After freezing rock solid, they fell towards the atmosphere of a nearby planet that the freighter was orbiting, incinerating them quite effectively.

Louella Dougans
Amarr
Sovereign Hospitaller Order of Saint Katherine
Posted - 2009.10.24 22:46:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Haraldhardrade
I did not 'throw' anything, anywhere. A custodian had the honor of pressing the button that opened the bay doors that sucked the elders into space, right before ending his shift. After freezing rock solid, they fell towards the atmosphere of a nearby planet that the freighter was orbiting, incinerating them quite effectively.



Your freighter?

Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
Posted - 2009.10.24 22:53:00 - [47]
 

Do you suffer from some type of disease that makes you echo words?

Louella Dougans
Amarr
Sovereign Hospitaller Order of Saint Katherine
Posted - 2009.10.24 23:03:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Do you suffer from some type of disease that makes you echo words?


No, just asking if you were at the command of the ship that the slaves were dropped from.

So, you are saying that at midnight on the 22/23rd your ship was in orbit of a planet, and jettisoned 5000 slaves. Is this correct?

Mr Reeth
Posted - 2009.10.25 03:19:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Due to the rude sillyness of Vall Kor. 5000 elderly Minmatar slaves will be executed at midnight.


You are a heretic and a murderer, no better than the Blooders. May you be captured by Matari and never be allowed to die.

Kazzzi
Amarr
Heathen Legion
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.10.25 07:43:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Mr Reeth
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Due to the rude sillyness of Vall Kor. 5000 elderly Minmatar slaves will be executed at midnight.


You are a heretic and a murderer, no better than the Blooders. May you be captured by Matari and never be allowed to die.


Though I do agree with Mr Reeth, there are loopholes in Amarrian law which would prevent Harald from being prosecuted. I'm sure if charges are ever levied against him, the the Ministry of Internal Order will find his acts to be justified somehow.

Merdaneth
Amarr
Defensores Fidei
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.25 11:12:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Due to the rude sillyness of Vall Kor. 5000 elderly Minmatar slaves will be executed at midnight.


You slaves are your property and it is within your rights to do with them as you wish. However, destroying your own property because some obviously poorly educated Matari who can barely spell offends you is unwise. You might as well destroy a thousand Matari-produced webifiers because you think someone is being silly. It serves no purpose but to make yourself look foolish at best, and a psychopathic lunatic at worst.

Additionally, it makes you look powerless. It seems a transparant attempt to influence other from speaking out on this summit. Do you really think a ms. Kor will suddenly not be rude and silly anymore if you execute slaves? Such attempts make you look weak and easily agitated, and by extention it makes the Empire look weak.

As a further suggestion, know that arguing publicly with well-known and highly regarded loyal servants of the Empire in this thread makes the Empire look divided.

Your intentions I cannot read, that is between you and God, but your words are highly ill-advised, no matter how you look at it. With one line of poorly thought-out response you have managed to turn to focus of this thread on disagreement between Empire loyalists, rather than having a good laugh at the poor and silly attempt of ms. Kor.

Louella Dougans
Amarr
Sovereign Hospitaller Order of Saint Katherine
Posted - 2009.10.25 13:36:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Merdaneth
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Due to the rude sillyness of Vall Kor. 5000 elderly Minmatar slaves will be executed at midnight.


You slaves are your property and it is within your rights to do with them as you wish. However, destroying your own property because some obviously poorly educated Matari who can barely spell offends you is unwise. You might as well destroy a thousand Matari-produced webifiers because you think someone is being silly. It serves no purpose but to make yourself look foolish at best, and a psychopathic lunatic at worst.


I wouldn't say psychopathic lunatic. More like delusional.

You see, Captain Merdaneth, I read these comments made about throwing the slaves into space at midnight on the night of the 22nd/23rd.
So I asked some people, and found out where this was likely to happen, which was Hisoufad.

So, I went, and watched, and waited. Midnight came and went, and still, the Navy people I talked to said the ships were all docked and inactive.

So, no slaves were thrown into space at midnight. Which makes them a delusional lunatic, rather than a psychopathic one.

Cpt Constantinus
Corp 54
Posted - 2009.10.25 22:27:00 - [53]
 

Meh, executing 5000 completly uninvolved slaves because some random subhuman on Galnet said something you dont like is quite idiotic. Perhaps you and your family should be sterilized so that any further contamination of our blessed amarrian gene pool can be avoided.

It makes me sad to see more and more would-be slavers who see their subjects as nothing more than soulless chattel. Where are the days when we conquered the galaxy for the enlightenment of all our fellow men? We do no conquer and enslave just to fill our purses with vain riches, but to spread the word of god, to educate the ignorant masses of his divine, eternal glory!

Is it sometimes necessary to destroy those who reject our benevolent offers? Of course, just as we have to punish those who stray from the true path, for their own sake . But punishment without cause, just for cruelty's sake, is something that only the degenerate Bloodraiders would do.

Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
Posted - 2009.10.26 10:18:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Louella Dougans


I wouldn't say psychopathic lunatic. More like delusional.

You see, Captain Merdaneth, I read these comments made about throwing the slaves into space at midnight on the night of the 22nd/23rd.
So I asked some people, and found out where this was likely to happen, which was Hisoufad.

So, I went, and watched, and waited. Midnight came and went, and still, the Navy people I talked to said the ships were all docked and inactive.

So, no slaves were thrown into space at midnight. Which makes them a delusional lunatic, rather than a psychopathic one.



I see that lies is something thats not beneath you. The slaves were spaced by the hands of my director. I see no logic in your propaganda, other than perhaps agitate.

Graelyn
Amarr
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2009.10.26 10:53:00 - [55]
 

Embarrassed and revealed as the liar you are by a Space Nun! How fitting.

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It's a sad day indeed when an Amarrian feel alienated by his own kind. No wonder our enemies see us as weak and feeble.


We do not suffer fools. You have turned a discussion about the raging inane ramblings of a Matari terrorist into a sweeping condemnation of a sychophantic ****brained Amarrian. It seems both races have their share of mentally infirm pilots.

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I was planning on aiding the Amarrian establishment with ships and pilots, but I now realize that it would be counter productive.


It seems that you roll over loyalties at the smallest disturbances to your ego. I'm sure the first frigate lost in battle would have shattered your morale and faith. I will horribly regret not having you at my side! Rolling Eyes

Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet
Yulai Federation
Posted - 2009.10.26 11:17:00 - [56]
 

Edited by: Codo Yagari on 26/10/2009 11:18:41
We must not forget the virtues of decency and love for our brothers and sisters. Please remember, we all come from the same planet, and we would do very good to remember our past.

Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
Posted - 2009.10.27 08:39:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Graelyn

It seems that you roll over loyalties at the smallest disturbances to your ego. I'm sure the first frigate lost in battle would have shattered your morale and faith. I will horribly regret not having you at my side! Rolling Eyes



I was considering donating a carrier and a dread to the cause, but then the likes of thee made me question what purpose it would serve to support the bloated bourgeois elite. Dont worry, you will have me on your side sooner or later.

Kazzzi
Amarr
Heathen Legion
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.10.27 09:18:00 - [58]
 

I recall a recent high profile case of slave neglect, which is illegal in the Amarr Empire. Is it legal to kill slaves for no reason as long as they are well fed and in good health?

Do any Imperial capsuleer organizations claim jurisdiction for an investigation of Harry's alleged crime?

Malleus Andropov
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2009.10.27 13:34:00 - [59]
 

Amarr's enemies are gloating happily when they can prod around in internal Amarrian dispute.

This is caused by fools like Haraldhardrade.

You will answer to God, Haraldhardrade. As the scriptures say:

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In the beginning all things were as one.
God parted them and breathed life into his creation
Divided the parts and gave each its place
And unto each, bestowed purpose.

- The Scriptures, Book I Verses 1:4


Apparantly your perception is that their purpose was to be wasted in space, because someone ticked you off.

Well guess what, when you stand before God you will see how ticked off He is about what you have done.

Kazzzi
Amarr
Heathen Legion
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.10.28 01:24:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Malleus Andropov
Amarr's enemies are gloating happily when they can prod around in internal Amarrian dispute.



Your enemies aren't gloating, they are calling bullsh*t on all the hypocritical tripe you Imperialists post on IGS about how humanely slaves are treated in the Amarr Empire.

The fact that no Imperial capsuleer organizations have taken action or even considered sanctions against Harry or any other admitted slave murderer proves it.


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