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Belle Tristesse
Posted - 2009.10.08 09:06:00 - [1]
 

Hello boys and girls

Not seen anything on this topic so thought I'd post. Bought my 1st Loki and fitting today. Now obviously this is an epeen ship, but I'm also hoping it will be useful to the gang whilst being able to mix it in a way that the claymore can't quite frankly.

This is for low sec skirmish pvp in a mainly minnie specced gang. Can't show the fitting cos I'm at work, but basically it's a vaga with a cap booster, bigger drone bay, twice the who and a fully specced rapid deployment link. Now I think this is sexy and cool, but there must be some flame potential there somewhere, so...

Adacia Calla
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.10.08 09:32:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Adacia Calla on 08/10/2009 09:35:49
How about you just fly a Claymore and send me the leftover 500mil isk.

I'm not great at putting together T3 cruisers since I haven't flown one yet, but I think this is more or less what you're looking for:

Edit: With AWU 4 it fits with 1.7 PG.

[Loki, Claybond]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Corelum A-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
Skirmish Warfare Link - Rapid Deployment

Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Auxiliary Thrusters I
Polycarbon Engine Housing I

Loki Defensive - Warfare Processor
Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization


Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5

Belle Tristesse
Posted - 2009.10.08 09:47:00 - [3]
 

Already have the fit thanks. Very similar to yours, power mod sub system instead though. Drops a nano but let's you fit a cap booster and neut. It's more the concept I'm interested in. Obviously what a Claymore can't do is manouvre out to orbit at 4km/s and spaff barrage with a nice fallloff bonus.

Dunno if that's worth 500mil, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who pay that just to pimp their vagas. Discuss : P

Perry
Amarr
The X-Trading Company
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.08 10:26:00 - [4]
 

Sleipnir can fit a Ganglink too. Has also nice Bonus for ACs. But the above fitting looks solid for a more mobile epeen.

Emperor Ryan
Amarr
The Illuminatii
Mildly Intoxicated
Posted - 2009.10.08 12:32:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Belle Tristesse
Already have the fit thanks. Very similar to yours, power mod sub system instead though. Drops a nano but let's you fit a cap booster and neut. It's more the concept I'm interested in. Obviously what a Claymore can't do is manouvre out to orbit at 4km/s and spaff barrage with a nice fallloff bonus.

Dunno if that's worth 500mil, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who pay that just to pimp their vagas. Discuss : P


Care to Tell me how you plan to Track at 4km. hell even a vaga cant hit at 2km speed if orbiting.

Belle Tristesse
Posted - 2009.10.08 12:43:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Emperor Ryan
Care to Tell me how you plan to Track at 4km. hell even a vaga cant hit at 2km speed if orbiting.


I won't be orbiting at 4. I'll be burning out at that speed smoking tackle before settling in to orbit to munch on the main body. The vaga's speed is all about range control.

Emperor Ryan
Amarr
The Illuminatii
Mildly Intoxicated
Posted - 2009.10.08 14:23:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Belle Tristesse
Originally by: Emperor Ryan
Care to Tell me how you plan to Track at 4km. hell even a vaga cant hit at 2km speed if orbiting.


I won't be orbiting at 4. I'll be burning out at that speed smoking tackle before settling in to orbit to munch on the main body. The vaga's speed is all about range control.


Im talking. Going at a Speed of 4k ms..

if one is to read your post it clearly says you will be orbiting at a undifined range at the speed of 4km per second thus, how do you plan to track.

Davinel Lulinvega
Posted - 2009.10.08 14:28:00 - [8]
 

You guys are missing the obvious bonus of using a t3 over a command ship. A sleipnir has no bonus to warfare links, it just fits one. A claymore has 3% per level. A loki has 5% per level.

Perry
Amarr
The X-Trading Company
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.08 14:45:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega
You guys are missing the obvious bonus of using a t3 over a command ship. A sleipnir has no bonus to warfare links, it just fits one. A claymore has 3% per level. A loki has 5% per level.


And you are missing the point of this Bonus beeing damn worthless if it comes with a 500m isk pricetag. It just increases the base value (22,5% with level V and a +2% link module):

Field Command: +22,5%
Fleet Command: +25,87%
T3 Cruiser: +28,12%

It IS the combination of a cruiser hull, high performance AND a stronger then usual gang bonus that might make this investment wortwhile, not the +5% Bonus alone.

Davinel Lulinvega
Posted - 2009.10.08 15:03:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Perry
Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega
You guys are missing the obvious bonus of using a t3 over a command ship. A sleipnir has no bonus to warfare links, it just fits one. A claymore has 3% per level. A loki has 5% per level.


And you are missing the point of this Bonus beeing damn worthless if it comes with a 500m isk pricetag. It just increases the base value (22,5% with level V and a +2% link module):

Field Command: +22,5%
Fleet Command: +25,87%
T3 Cruiser: +28,12%

It IS the combination of a cruiser hull, high performance AND a stronger then usual gang bonus that might make this investment wortwhile, not the +5% Bonus alone.
Did I say that was the only bonus? The other factors are obvious, but nobody mentioned the stronger gang bonus so far.

Belle Tristesse
Posted - 2009.10.08 15:12:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Belle Tristesse on 08/10/2009 15:14:25
Someone mentioned T3 and worthwhile in the same sentence. Does that mean I get a prize? Razz

Thanks for the feedback. Probably also worth noting that I'm not inclined to train command ships to 5 whereas the defensive sub is a level 1 skill.

One last thing, for Ryan, I will orbit at whatever speed is appropriate to the situation. Having the ability to do 4k is nice for obvious reasons. I apologise if my text is in anyway unclear and sincerely hope this goes some way to mitigating any offence I may have caused.

Best wishes

Belle

Belle Tristesse
Posted - 2009.10.09 12:43:00 - [12]
 

I thought it only right that I should warn the S&M community of my disturbing findings after paying out 500mil for this ship.

It is FUGLY.

Marko Riva
Posted - 2009.10.09 13:01:00 - [13]
 

yeah, they really could have done better with the looks tbh, but the choice for a command/nullifier/ECCM/covert T3 is a sound one.

Susy Assulu
Caldari
Atomic Mexicans
Posted - 2009.10.09 16:43:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Belle Tristesse
I thought it only right that I should warn the S&M community of my disturbing findings after paying out 500mil for this ship.

It is FUGLY.
Can sue the preview window

Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
Posted - 2009.10.10 23:31:00 - [15]
 

Bear in mind the T3 gang boosting Loki can be made unprobeable..

Davinel Lulinvega
Posted - 2009.10.10 23:53:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Durzel
Bear in mind the T3 gang boosting Loki can be made unprobeable..
You can, but since the loki can actually be a decent combat ship with a gang link there isn't much point. You wouldn't hide a sleipnir in a safe spot would you?


 

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