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 Acid Flipper Sock Robbers Inc.
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Posted - 2009.10.06 11:30:00 - [ 31]
Originally by: N'tek alar
Originally by: Acid Flipper
this of course only works if there isnt also a space navy of the planet X.
ohwell.
Ofc it works even if there's also a space navy of planet x.
Said space navy wouldn't be called "Federation Navy" as the navy of planet x represents planet x, Not the whole Federation.
The Federation Navy = the navy of the federation, ie, Not the navy of some random planet within the federation.
you missed that point. If the president called and said "give me the navy of planet X" he would get the answer: "the space navy or the watery navy?" And then we are back to the main problem as posted by the OP. |
 Wacktopia Sicarius. Legion of The Damned. |
Posted - 2009.10.06 11:37:00 - [ 32]
Edited by: Wacktopia on 06/10/2009 11:38:08 A 'flock' of dodos and a 'flock' of seagulls share the same collective noun. There is no reason why a sea navy and a space navy shouldn't.
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 Tellenta Gallente versic LLC
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Posted - 2009.10.06 12:45:00 - [ 33]
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 Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards |
Posted - 2009.10.06 12:51:00 - [ 34]
Edited by: Nova Fox on 06/10/2009 12:52:41 Army - Targets ahead and threats from above Marines - Targets ahead and threats from above Airforce - Targets ahead and threats from ahead and below Navy - Targets and threats from ahead below and above
This is generally speaking though there are alot of exceptions but this is mostly what the forces are dedicatingly built up to deal with.
Out of any sort of military the Navy is already used to a 360 battlefield. The tools dont change much they're still pertty much the same animal in a different environment. Who is to say that operations arent much different between the two as well?
Its only natural for us to consider calling the space equivalent of a military a naval command as well even though has little to do with water.
Now if you where a bunch of aliens living on a desert planet then im sure it would be refered to as something else other than a navy. Maybe a Stratoforce or something weird and in that case theyll probably use the same exact names and analogies inherited from thier long time military traditions of warfare.
In my science fiction im peicing together the space navy is water capable, saves quite alot on the landing bills |
 Gantak Indofani Gallente EVE University Ivy League |
Posted - 2009.10.06 12:54:00 - [ 35]
Wow! I managed to start a topic that has gone all over the place. It's like a 3 year old trying to do a painting. Messy:)
So, someone said about US Navy Space Command - thats the the US Navy having jurisdiction over a particular aspect of US Space ops. Not an actual Space-based Navy. The USAF also have alot of involvement in that arena.
And someone said something about the astronaut training program including underwater training because it most closely resembles 'space conditions'. Errr, no it doesn't and thats NOT the reason why.
They use the underwater testing as it is the nearest to micro-gravity effects, it's not for simulating ALL conditions of space. They use it to test tools, foot and handholds on the outside of spacecraft, procedures and also to give the astronauts a very general idea of movement and the adjustments necessary to normal movement activities in a micro-gravity environment (note: MICRO-gravity, NOT Zero. You are always under the influence of gravity to some extent in space unless you are in deep-deep space far from any celestial bodies. What do you think keeps the planets aligned?)
Have fun ya'll. |
 Bethany Blaze Amarr Cool Story Bro |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:05:00 - [ 36]
Originally by: Gantak Indofani And someone said something about the astronaut training program including underwater training because it most closely resembles 'space conditions'.
Originally by: Gantak Indofani They use the underwater testing as it is the nearest to micro-gravity effects, it's not for simulating ALL conditions of space. [...]
They never used the term " all space conditions" (bolded for emphasis of missing word). You simply elaborated on what was a very acceptable summarization, given this is Eve GENERAL Discussion, not Out of Pod (Off Topic) discussion. |
 Mercurye Nubian Sundance |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:12:00 - [ 37]
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 Bethany Blaze Amarr Cool Story Bro |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:14:00 - [ 38]
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 Gantak Indofani Gallente EVE University Ivy League |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:14:00 - [ 39]
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 Korovyov Cool Story Bro |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:17:00 - [ 40]
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 Korovyov Cool Story Bro |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:18:00 - [ 41]
Originally by: Gantak Indofani Yet, you are missing the context. The response of the poster I quoted was itself posted below a quote from another which mentioned vacuums and water-tightness (if there is such a word). The water-testing tanks of Nasa are nothing to do with testing for those conditions.
0/10 This thread is now about Gallente fashion failures and the implications of The Village People in the EVE universe. |
 Bethany Blaze Amarr Cool Story Bro |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:20:00 - [ 42]
I've always wondered why Gallente females paint racing stripes on their faces. Heck, I've wondered why they're glossy. Also, do they rub off like normal makeup can, or is it permanent? If it is, are there any harmful side-effects to skin health? |
 Mercurye Nubian Sundance |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:28:00 - [ 43]
Originally by: Bethany Blaze I've always wondered why Gallente females paint racing stripes on their faces. Heck, I've wondered why they're glossy. Also, do they rub off like normal makeup can, or is it permanent? If it is, are there any harmful side-effects to skin health?
Theyre tramps...what can we, ehh..I say. Im Intaki, and I take pride in a subtle yet charming marking Never understood those "gals"  |
 Gaborelle Gallente The Motley Crew Reborn Warped Aggression |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:30:00 - [ 44]
the Jove must call their fleet "the collective" seeing as they are the most borg like race.
u will all be assimilated by the Jove -- resistance is futile -- the collective must grow - the collective seek perfection |
 Korovyov Cool Story Bro |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:32:00 - [ 45]
Edited by: Korovyov on 06/10/2009 13:33:08 Originally by: Gaborelle u will all be assimilated by the Jove -- resistance is futile -- the collective must grow - the collective seek perfection
That certainly explains why they don't come around anymore. |
 Gantak Indofani Gallente EVE University Ivy League |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:37:00 - [ 46]
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 Korovyov Cool Story Bro |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:40:00 - [ 47]
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 Bethany Blaze Amarr Cool Story Bro |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:43:00 - [ 48]
I'm now fascinated by the idea that the Village People are, in fact, a well-known and perhaps popularly collected band among Caldari pod pilots. |
 Mercurye Nubian Sundance |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:43:00 - [ 49]
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 Korovyov Cool Story Bro |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:44:00 - [ 50]
The real question is which corp in EVE is the YMCA. |
 Mercurye Nubian Sundance |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:51:00 - [ 51]
Originally by: Korovyov The real question is which corp in EVE is the YMCA.
YMCA ticker belongs to ....tada, surprise.. The Village People corp ^^ Only one member in it, so not a great succes in the future :P |
 Korovyov Cool Story Bro |
Posted - 2009.10.06 13:54:00 - [ 52]
Originally by: Mercurye YMCA ticker belongs to ....tada, surprise.. The Village People corp ^^
Only one member in it, so not a great succes in the future :P
Oh, I meant in a more metaphorical sense. Let me rephrase... Which NPC corp, by its fictional background and standings, is the EVE equivalent of the YMCA? I'd say the Sisters of EVE offhandedly, but that conflicts with the M. |
 Mercurye Nubian Sundance |
Posted - 2009.10.06 14:04:00 - [ 53]
Originally by: Korovyov
Originally by: Mercurye YMCA ticker belongs to ....tada, surprise.. The Village People corp ^^
Only one member in it, so not a great succes in the future :P
Oh, I meant in a more metaphorical sense. Let me rephrase...
Which NPC corp, by its fictional background and standings, is the EVE equivalent of the YMCA?
I'd say the Sisters of EVE offhandedly, but that conflicts with the M.
I wanted to say some randon Gallente corp....but then I thought "Hmmm...what about that "C" in YMCA? So I would say something Amarr...but lets not get into that  |
 Professor Tarantula Hedion University |
Posted - 2009.10.06 14:08:00 - [ 54]
Originally by: Gantak Indofani And someone said something about the astronaut training program including underwater training because it most closely resembles 'space conditions'. Errr, no it doesn't and thats NOT the reason why.
They use the underwater testing as it is the nearest to micro-gravity effects, it's not for simulating ALL conditions of space.
I didn't say it closely resembled space conditions. I said it was the best way we have to simulate space conditions, and it seems we agree on that. The poster i was responding to was acting under the impression that space and underwater were vastly different, and using underwater conditions in that way is evidence that they aren't so vastly different. Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Originally by: Professor Tarantula claiming they're looking for water
They're not, they're hoping to determine the average quantity of water in the soil.
They were pretending there was no water there until lately. The very idea of bombing it was originally supposed to be because they didn't find any on the surface, so they were looking deeper. You can read all the articles where NASA first announced the plans to bomb the moon, and every one, without exception, including the one i linked before, says they were looking for water. Not trying to find out how much. |
 Korovyov Cool Story Bro |
Posted - 2009.10.06 14:13:00 - [ 55]
Originally by: Mercurye I wanted to say some randon Gallente corp....but then I thought "Hmmm...what about that "C" in YMCA?
So I would say something Amarr...but lets not get into that 
I've been to Amarr. They greatly lack the charitable spirit of the early YMCA. And just because the Gallente are liberal doesn't preclude them from religion. In fact, their liberal tendencies would be a breeding ground for a charitable community organization like the YMCA. |
 Bethany Blaze Amarr Cool Story Bro |
Posted - 2009.10.06 14:15:00 - [ 56]
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 Gantak Indofani Gallente EVE University Ivy League |
Posted - 2009.10.06 15:04:00 - [ 57]
Originally by: Professor Tarantula I didn't say it closely resembled space conditions. I said it was the best way we have to simulate space conditions, and it seems we agree on that. The poster i was responding to was acting under the impression that space and underwater were vastly different, and using underwater conditions in that way is evidence that they aren't so vastly different.
Point conceeded  |
 Dust Irae Minmatar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore |
Posted - 2009.10.06 20:09:00 - [ 58]
I think a water-based navy wouldn't have a reason to exist. All planets seem to be owned by single nations, unlike our Earth of today with many warring nations owning bits of land here and there. Also, in the event of war on the planet's surface, troop deployment, bombardment, all of those things - could be done from space and sky. There is no need for water-based fleets when, in orbit, there might be a thousand battleships. |
 Amitious Turkey Gallente TarNec
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Posted - 2009.10.06 20:48:00 - [ 59]
Yarr, pirate be pirate whether flying or sinking...  |
 Dretzle Omega Caldari Global Economy Experts |
Posted - 2009.10.06 21:06:00 - [ 60]
Edited by: Dretzle Omega on 06/10/2009 21:06:52 Originally by: Professor Tarantula I said it was the best way we have to simulate space conditions, and it seems we agree on that. The poster i was responding to was acting under the impression that space and underwater were vastly different, and using underwater conditions in that way is evidence that they aren't so vastly different.
Underwater is the best way to simulate the loss in gravity in space, yes. That doesn't mean that spaceship design would be the same, and you could design some portions of a spaceship for the crew (airtight) and some portions of the spaceship that didn't need to be airtight in space. However, put water in those portions could do bad things for the ship. And I wasn't arguing that you couldn't design a spaceship that could fly through air and water. I'm not an engineer; I'm sure it's perfectly doable. I was arguing against this comment of yours: Quote: There's also how anything that can move through space could probabaly do the same with water.
Which is frankly not true. You can design (as I have tried to illustrate) spaceships that won't move well through water. You said "anything", I say no. In fact, it's perfectly realistic that a ship designed to work most efficiently in space can't even operate underwater. That's what I was illustrating. |