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Jakra Crase
Posted - 2009.09.30 04:50:00 - [1]
 

Hi all,

Some time back I was in a corp and I was in on a few fights. It was awesome! Working as a group and engaging another group of ships was chaos, adrenaline, and eventually that rush that comes after you win!

It's my crack. I need my fix.

But I have so many questions I could fill a forum with them all...

I learned so much from SNLY, but there's more I need to learn I know.

I can fly a lot of ships, but do I do them credit? Should I just get a small Assault Ship and engage through faction warfare, or should I join a corp and find out where they need me? I always try to fill the need, so the latter is very attractive, but how many corps actually use someone who likes to be the jammer, scrambler part of the team? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to get the kill credits a few times, but honestly I thrive on the focus of "Jam that guy and don't let up!" thing. Or the "Get in there and scram them and we'll rep you" thing. To me its a lot more fun being in a team and working as one than just sitting around waiting for someone to open a container so I can pod them. I've never had to resort to being that lame for my thrills.

And if I join a corp, do I want one where I have to be in a group to survive? Sort of like, they are so outnumbered that they stand zero chance of making it through the war dec and everyone bails out of the corp...

If anyone was more confused at all the paths before them than I, I'd like to meet them and find out how they decided. It's daunting.

I'm eager to learn from someone if they'd just give me their valuable time.

Any suggestions?

Intigo
Amarr
Genos Occidere
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.09.30 06:49:00 - [2]
 

Join Red vs Blue (R-V-B channel ingame) and have a ton of risk-free PvP. Then when you feel you have learned a lot you can set out to find a corporation that fits your needs - you'll learn a lot in R-V-B and get a ton of fights (which is the easiest way to get experience).

Other than that, fly different ships and try to find out which role you enjoy playing the most.

Mikayla Grey
Gallente
Posted - 2009.09.30 11:34:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Jakra Crase
HI always try to fill the need, so the latter is very attractive, but how many corps actually use someone who likes to be the jammer, scrambler part of the team?


All corps love tacklers. Aim for flying dictors in 0.0 if you want exciting tackling roles. You generally get blow up a lot but most alliances have dictor replacement programs.

Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.09.30 13:18:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Don Pellegrino on 30/09/2009 13:19:04
Hey Jakra,

I think you should join a FW corp.

You learn faster by being in a corp. It's more exciting because you get to know new people and
working as a team is easier this way. FW also has a lot of large battles.
FW happens in lowsec, so you get to fight the 2 enemy militias, mission runners in Rifters that want a 1v1,
pirates and a lot of stuff.

0.0 is different, but not that much. There's bubbles, a lot more POS and it requires more teamwork:
you can't really go anywhere if not scouted (or in a scouting ship). The rest is the same.

And by the way, if you're looking for a good small gang pvp corp, send me a mail :)

Cordarouy Pants
Amarr
Real Salmon
Posted - 2009.09.30 15:33:00 - [5]
 

Confirming that RvB is a fantastic entry point.

Info URL: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1182525

Public Channel: R-V-B

Faction warfare is a moist, steaming turd.

Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
Posted - 2009.09.30 16:35:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Jakra Crase
Hi all,

Some time back I was in a corp and I was in on a few fights. It was awesome! Working as a group and engaging another group of ships was chaos, adrenaline, and eventually that rush that comes after you win!

It's my crack. I need my fix.

But I have so many questions I could fill a forum with them all...

I learned so much from SNLY, but there's more I need to learn I know.

I can fly a lot of ships, but do I do them credit? Should I just get a small Assault Ship and engage through faction warfare, or should I join a corp and find out where they need me? I always try to fill the need, so the latter is very attractive, but how many corps actually use someone who likes to be the jammer, scrambler part of the team? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to get the kill credits a few times, but honestly I thrive on the focus of "Jam that guy and don't let up!" thing. Or the "Get in there and scram them and we'll rep you" thing. To me its a lot more fun being in a team and working as one than just sitting around waiting for someone to open a container so I can pod them. I've never had to resort to being that lame for my thrills.

And if I join a corp, do I want one where I have to be in a group to survive? Sort of like, they are so outnumbered that they stand zero chance of making it through the war dec and everyone bails out of the corp...

If anyone was more confused at all the paths before them than I, I'd like to meet them and find out how they decided. It's daunting.

I'm eager to learn from someone if they'd just give me their valuable time.

Any suggestions?


Skip FW unless you want to run around in 20 to 30 man blobs all day ganking lone targets on gate, with the occasional fleet fight. Red vs Blue is where the real fight is. I'm in FW with this alt but I stuck a noob toon in RvB and it blows FW away in a big way.

RvB is controlled by players and the general idea is everyone wants to avoid blobs and get good fights in reasonably affordable ships. This means you can undock T1 frigs all day if you want and typically always find a fight with in 2 jumps.

In most cases so far it's just been a lot of T1 frigs, cruisers and BC's with some T2 frigs mixed in. This keeps things cheap and allows you to afford to lose many ships with out going broke in the process.

Typically the general idea is to keep the BS's, Ewar, T2 cruisers and so on in the hanger and leave it for when one of the corps gets a outside war dec. This keeps the fights fun, cheap and typically keeps the arm's races to a minimum. However if you want to fly something nice you can always set up a fight.

Another benefit, is because we are all there to fight and have fun podding is typically looked down on. It doesn't mean you will never get podded, but in most cases people have been cool about not doing it "much".

It's just in general a much better atmosphere than FW is and you can always get a 1v1 if you want it.

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2009.09.30 19:02:00 - [7]
 

RVB is where it's at. Joining it with a alt ;)

Draeklore
Unknown-Entity
Maru Ka'ge
Posted - 2009.09.30 19:42:00 - [8]
 

Quote:
I can fly a lot of ships, but do I do them credit? Should I just get a small Assault Ship and engage through faction warfare, or should I join a corp and find out where they need me? I always try to fill the need, so the latter is very attractive, but how many corps actually use someone who likes to be the jammer, scrambler part of the team? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to get the kill credits a few times, but honestly I thrive on the focus of "Jam that guy and don't let up!" thing. Or the "Get in there and scram them and we'll rep you" thing. To me its a lot more fun being in a team and working as one than just sitting around waiting for someone to open a container so I can pod them. I've never had to resort to being that lame for my thrills.


Well you will have a role in PvP and be expected to perform that role. No one will really be directing you other than giving you a primary target. In my experiences this is most often the case.

If you're a tackler you put a point on the primary and don't die. If you're a scout you fly ahead of the group and relay intel.

If you want to learn PvP fast then join a 0.0 corp and take a cheap ship out there. Make sure the corp can provide you with T1 frigs/cruisers to PvP with. After a few small roams you will pretty much have your hands around PvP Razz

Aurorae Andromedae
Posted - 2009.09.30 22:42:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Mutnin

It's just in general a much better atmosphere than FW is and you can always get a 1v1 if you want it.
Just go back to CS Rolling Eyes

Marko Riva
Posted - 2009.10.01 00:11:00 - [10]
 

RvB is where to go atm, although you should realise/learn that pvp is more than headfirst skull bashing, it's great fun though.

Intigo
Amarr
Genos Occidere
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.10.01 08:28:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Aurorae Andromedae
Originally by: Mutnin

It's just in general a much better atmosphere than FW is and you can always get a 1v1 if you want it.
Just go back to CS Rolling Eyes


Eh?

What's wrong with 1v1s? You will learn a lot from them about tracking and optimal, not to mention what ammo types you should use. All this needs to be in order for 1on1s.

David Devant
Gallente
CTRL-Q
Posted - 2009.10.01 13:38:00 - [12]
 

Sounds to me like you're especially into well thought out combat ops rather than the usual head on face mashing that a lot of corps are into. This is to be commended!

My advice would be to make sure you join an organisation which will engage in this kind of activity. Not really that easy to find in all honesty. FW would be a good place to start however. Bear in mind that the 4 racial types carry with them their own inherent playstyle, if a Corp doesn't seem to pay attention to this they're probably not any good.

Good luck.

Jakra Crase
Posted - 2009.10.01 18:39:00 - [13]
 

Thank you all for the feedback.

I decided to join RVB and see what I can learn, share what I can, and get some more experience in PvP.


 

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