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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2009.09.26 21:04:00 - [31]
 

You die to bombers? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are terrible at this game.

Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.09.26 21:20:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 26/09/2009 21:20:45
If anything, I think bombs need a bit of a boost. The way it is now, you need to all be using the exact same type of bomb or they instapop each other..Then again, I suppose that's not too huge of an issue.

Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
Posted - 2009.09.26 21:30:00 - [33]
 

Of course bombers are not overpowered you fool.

The age of the interceptor fleet has come!

Irida Mershkov
Gallente
The Reformed
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2009.09.26 21:43:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 26/09/2009 21:20:45
If anything, I think bombs need a bit of a boost. The way it is now, you need to all be using the exact same type of bomb or they instapop each other..Then again, I suppose that's not too huge of an issue.

So, if two bombs of the same damage go off? one won't blow the other up? But if they're different types, ie thermal and kinetic, one will pop the other?

Big Tortillaboy
Posted - 2009.09.26 21:58:00 - [35]
 

Op is definitely an ATLAS or goon alt, the timing of this post and the time of the SB group that hit an Atlas fleet is impeccable

Kythren
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.09.26 21:59:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Kythren on 26/09/2009 21:59:34
Edited by: Kythren on 26/09/2009 21:59:11
bombs have 96-99% resistance to the damage type they do.(cant remember atm) you can use 10 or more bombs of the same type at once(they have arround 5k hp? if im not wrong and deal 6k damage).


@ OP:

1. show your alliance & corp(and dont alt post ffs)
2. leave 0.0
3. ???
4. profit
5. let your small support use MWD to die faster.

if you die to bombers(if its not a 50 man PL gang, +1 for you guys, you shouldnt die), you are stupid.

Xing Fey
Posted - 2009.09.26 22:10:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Kythren
Edited by: Kythren on 26/09/2009 21:59:34
Edited by: Kythren on 26/09/2009 21:59:11
bombs have 96-99% resistance to the damage type they do.(cant remember atm) you can use 10 or more bombs of the same type at once(they have arround 5k hp? if im not wrong and deal 6k damage).


@ OP:

1. show your alliance & corp(and dont alt post ffs)
2. leave 0.0
3. ???
4. profit
5. let your small support use MWD to die faster.

if you die to bombers(if its not a 50 man PL gang, +1 for you guys, you shouldnt die), you are stupid.


6-8 bombs at a time, depending on the skill level of the bomber pilots.

Kythren
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.09.26 22:19:00 - [38]
 

we had 5 bombers throwing bombs at us just a few days ago(we were in rr-bs). and ended up in 50-60% armor(i was in a scorpion, which has not the best armor tank ...). even a caracal was able to get away in armor(well he jumped after the first or second bomb hit hehe).

Sacul
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.09.26 22:28:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Kythren
we had 5 bombers throwing bombs at us just a few days ago(we were in rr-bs). and ended up in 50-60% armor(i was in a scorpion, which has not the best armor tank ...). even a caracal was able to get away in armor(well he jumped after the first or second bomb hit hehe).


The atlas alt is talking about 17 to 20 bombers against the atlas sniper 'glass cannon' battleships. The Tri and Init RR bs fleet was bombed aswell and just 5 bs died while Atlas lost 50-ish in the first bridge in wave.

My point being is that 5 bombers is easily survivable but 17 is very different if well executed (as the goon and RA bombers clearly were).

Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
Posted - 2009.09.26 22:36:00 - [40]
 

They're not overpowered, and take note I'm saying this about 5 minutes after I undocked and a huge WTFpwn PL bomber blob atomized my thorax.

No they're not overpowered.

Greg ours
Posted - 2009.09.26 22:39:00 - [41]
 

PL is overpowered.

5pinDizzy
Amarr
Pillow Fighters Inc
Posted - 2009.09.26 22:49:00 - [42]
 

Just hang out in lowsec and Wheee your BS gang is invincible again.

Kythren
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.09.26 23:01:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Sacul

My point being is that 5 bombers is easily survivable but 17 is very different if well executed (as the goon and RA bombers clearly were).


exactly, but as you see bombs coming in your fcs needs to get you out fast, since the first wave will most likely not kill you in an rr-bs.
and yes if someone gets 17 stealthbombers on a good spot to your snipers you are ****ed.

but then again snipers should always be full speed aligned to GTFO, and even atlas should be able to press the warp button within 15 seconds... or is everyone on ts screaming bomb while waiting for your capital fcs orders, because your subcapital fc is getting a coffe?
moreover the bombers will decloak each other on warping in, so you have another 5-10 seconds till the **** is comming. and even if they are bridged in with a covert cyno, they are visible and need to align to your gang before they are able to drop something on you.
please dont *welp*.

whops, now i told atlas how to use sniper bs, damn.

Gonada
The Scope
Posted - 2009.09.26 23:08:00 - [44]
 

sorry idiots, post started by goons to brodcast their first? win in a while.

that being said, good show.

Will that ever happen again? highly unlikely, but it does spell the end of undefended sniper blobs for the future.

did it hurt atlas/aaa ? um no.

did you tip your hand early showing off a new tactic? um yes.

do you think that youll ever get away with that again? um, doubt it :)

c u on the battlefield.



Rebnok
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.09.26 23:18:00 - [45]
 

BOMBA DOWN BOMBA DOWN......
BS DOWN BS DOWNShocked

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2009.09.26 23:41:00 - [46]
 

Begun, the bomber wars has.

Fortum Peccavi
Posted - 2009.09.26 23:50:00 - [47]
 

Relevant to my interests, this topic is.

RedSplat
Posted - 2009.09.27 00:03:00 - [48]
 

Atlas alts with sore bottoms in this thread.

Bombs are intended as an anti blob weapon, they work as such, as intended.

Next time try splitting your fleet into 4 mini balls of death and not failing quite so hard.

Respute
Minmatar
The Foreign Legion
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.09.27 00:44:00 - [49]
 

I used to moan at the Zealots in our HAC gangs that loved to fit them double Sensor Boosters for more killmails.

I've now learned to love them after watching bomber after bomber after bomber get insta f*#ked by these fast locking alpha machines ugh

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2009.09.27 03:18:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Ranger 1 on 27/09/2009 03:19:25
Originally by: Respute
I used to moan at the Zealots in our HAC gangs that loved to fit them double Sensor Boosters for more killmails.

I've now learned to love them after watching bomber after bomber after bomber get insta f*#ked by these fast locking alpha machines ugh


Interesting. I prefer watching gank fit, sensor boosted zealots die to 2 bombs.
Especially pleasing in that those sensor boosters don't help the zealot a bit in the split second between bomb release and entering warp. Very Happy



Ryhss
Caldari
The Excecutorans
Posted - 2009.09.27 03:24:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Lickalotopus
has anyone came up with a good defence for them.
1. Don't bunch up.
2. Shoot them.

3. Add detroyers in your gang. MWD them too.

Allen Ramses
Caldari
Zombicidal Mania
Posted - 2009.09.27 03:33:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Lickalotopus
Edited by: Lickalotopus on 26/09/2009 17:59:52
what if your in a RR fleet
Then you deserve what you got. I say hooray for SB spammage just for the RR tears it creates.

Manu Hermanus
FaDoyToy
Posted - 2009.09.27 03:41:00 - [53]
 

hmm maybe I should get the bomb launcher skill, already got torps 5, cov ops 5, and bombardment 5

Twisted Evil

killerkeano
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.09.27 03:51:00 - [54]
 

firslty goons play as if they created the "bomber gang" like its a new thing, its the PL fad of the month, along with nano scimitar , hac gangs/ but to give goons credit they doing well with sb's at the moment no denying it.

overpowered? nah

counters yes there are a few

only victims moan, cant beat em join em

they are a useful gang for alliances far from home a cheap and effective anti blob method, and I for one hold my hand up and say anyone using these gangs is not stupid and is making the most of the game mechanics. some people spend more time on forums than they do playing the game im sure?

if you cant beat em join em, it will be nerfed thoguh as the whinin gcarebears as always get the point accross

aetherguy881
Gallente
Posted - 2009.09.27 03:52:00 - [55]
 

Got hit by one in a WH yesterday... Hardly scratched the shields... Maybe they need a boost?

Juan Valhdez
Posted - 2009.09.27 04:54:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Lickalotopus
Go ahead flame me mother truckersShocked
Whaaa, a game mechanic is working as intended!

Cyprus Black
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.09.27 05:12:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Cyprus Black on 27/09/2009 05:16:28
The OP has described the most ideal situation for stealth bombers to strike at peak efficiency. Unfortunately such situations are rare and stealth bomber gangs have to pick and choose their battles.

Stealth bombers don't need a nerf. This is an issue of FC judgment failure rather than game design failure. Players shouldn't be giving these SB gangs such extremely favorable odds.

Any FC worth his salt will tell you: "Don't bunch up".

Typhado3
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.09.27 05:35:00 - [58]
 

umm....

bombs will blow each other up if you launch more than 7 at once. and that's if their the same damage type.

So mutiple waves (3 to be sure) would be needed to take out a bs gang. This really isn't something broken having mutiple co-ordinated waves of bombers taking out the enemy they where designed to kill.



Unless ccp changed something rather drastic about em while i wasn't looking

Mikayla Grey
Gallente
Posted - 2009.09.27 06:50:00 - [59]
 

Bombers are finally doing the job they were supposed to do.

debbie harrio
Posted - 2009.09.27 06:55:00 - [60]
 


Suprised Goons have any bombs left after we popped their delivery of shrapnel bombs.


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