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Trok Mienal
Posted - 2009.09.18 17:31:00 - [151]
 

Edited by: Trok Mienal on 18/09/2009 17:36:23
Originally by: Jaliri Naskad
Hello, Joe.

My questions are regarding your recruitment practices, prior to the SSS incident. Despite whatever else may be said about you, you seem to have had the knack for recruiting both experienced players who were willing to spend much time and ISK for the good of the corporation (such as Trok), and fresh newbies who were willing to stick around despite many losses.

Were and how did you find these recruits?
What was your recruitment process?
Why, in your opinion, did they stick around for so long?



I can answer most of these from personal experience being in the corp so long. However I still would LOVE to hear Joe's answer. Its got to be worth a good laugh. Joe basically did very little recruiting himself. He asks all members to recruit and get people to go and apply. This comes down to just spamming in local with very little info about the corp then getting those people to invite there friends where the cycle repeats. Kinda like a pyramid scheme where Joe collects more and more taxes. If you spam in local and message random people long enough you eventually find someone willing to give a new corp a shot. Especially new players. Despite how I pleaded with Joe, he never supplied any pre-made recruitment messages, or basic info those recruiting can tell people. So what was said was random and only what people knew from personal experience. But Joe wants all members to try and recruit so people did.

There was no interview when people applied just a quick approval. Only recently did he even ask for API's and only to try to stop spies. Most members only stayed as long as they did because they had a friend in the corp. Mind you this wasn't very long at all. The I.C. had a very very high turnover rate. People were joining and leaving all the time, I mean every day. During the war with the SSS we only had about 4 or 5 regulars besides Joe including me.

So to shorten this.

Question:Were and how did you find these recruits?
Answer: Random spamming in local chat in starter zones as required by Joe.

Question:What was your recruitment process?
Answer: There wasn't one, random recruiting followed by approval with no interview.

Question: Why, in your opinion, did they stick around for so long?
Answer: If you consider members leaving after a 1-3 days and then being quickly replaced by other new players long, then they stayed that long because that's how long it took to find out Joe was a terrible CEO and the I.C. had few redeeming qualities besides the few helpful members such as myself.

-Trok

Zedrik Cayne
Gallente
Standards and Practices
Posted - 2009.09.18 18:36:00 - [152]
 

Originally by: Gavin DeVries
That's the same Joe Phoenix all right. I'm surprised he didn't have any warp core stabilizers on that Drake.


Fortunately having seen previous kills with up to four stabs fitted, a full six points were put on the brutix before going out. The drake had a co-processor, power diagnostic and 2xwarp core stabs fitted in the lows.

His mids were reasonable. And, well...I suppose crap t1 launchers are fine if you stuff caldari navy missles inside.

In other news...The Giant Squids have apparently killed Viceroy Jane in Luminaire a couple times. Um..what?

Infinitus Perrenis
Gallente
Posted - 2009.09.18 19:27:00 - [153]
 

Originally by: sitar seaton

Joe is your irl name barack?


Geezus, have some perspective.

Greasy Khan
Posted - 2009.09.19 00:10:00 - [154]
 

Edited by: Greasy Khan on 19/09/2009 00:30:00
FFS. Please copy and paste your posts into a word program and spellcheck this garbage please.

edit: I know it's been covered already but your killing me.

Ulaanbator Tiki
The Yaar Offices of Pointe Webb and Podemall
Posted - 2009.09.19 00:54:00 - [155]
 

Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
And in fact i own nothing, everying i posess belongs to the corp, as the commander of the commonwealth i don't own anything as an individuel.
Here's an interesting question, then! Please choose your favorite Communist leader from the list below, and tell us why you chose that particular person:
  • Josef Stalin
  • Carl Marx
  • Mao Zedong
  • Kim Jong Il
  • Barack Obama



I pick any of them except Obama, because none of the other guys ever supported a bill allowing the federal government to kill my grandmother.

AdmiralJohn
Gallente
Origin of Sanshaa
Posted - 2009.09.19 01:10:00 - [156]
 

Originally by: Ulaanbator Tiki
Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
And in fact i own nothing, everying i posess belongs to the corp, as the commander of the commonwealth i don't own anything as an individuel.
Here's an interesting question, then! Please choose your favorite Communist leader from the list below, and tell us why you chose that particular person:
  • Josef Stalin
  • Carl Marx
  • Mao Zedong
  • Kim Jong Il
  • Barack Obama



I pick any of them except Obama, because none of the other guys ever supported a bill allowing the federal government to kill my grandmother.


Imma let you finish, but I just wanted to say Stalin abused his power way better than Obama.

Infinitus Perrenis
Gallente
Posted - 2009.09.19 02:35:00 - [157]
 

Originally by: AdmiralJohn
Originally by: Ulaanbator Tiki
Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
And in fact i own nothing, everying i posess belongs to the corp, as the commander of the commonwealth i don't own anything as an individuel.
Here's an interesting question, then! Please choose your favorite Communist leader from the list below, and tell us why you chose that particular person:
  • Josef Stalin
  • Carl Marx
  • Mao Zedong
  • Kim Jong Il
  • Barack Obama



I pick any of them except Obama, because none of the other guys ever supported a bill allowing the federal government to kill my grandmother.


Imma let you finish, but I just wanted to say Stalin abused his power way better than Obama.



Well I am glad that the brain trusts have finally chimed in. You two are proof that a minimum IQ is not required to post on message boards.
BTW, this thread is about an idiot named Joe, but it isn't your hero Joe the un-licensed Plumber.
Now doesn't Glen Beck have some protest for you to do, something about teabagging each other?Laughing

AdmiralJohn
Gallente
Origin of Sanshaa
Posted - 2009.09.19 02:55:00 - [158]
 

Actually I just felt like using that phrase, so I searched many different threads until I found something marginally suitable so I could get it out of my system.

But politics is good, too.

azalea anastasia
Posted - 2009.09.19 10:25:00 - [159]
 

Really joe has to be a troll , no one can be THAT dumb.No really ...



RedSplat
Posted - 2009.09.19 12:46:00 - [160]
 

I leave the Internets for a few days and then THIS happens. You're off your game RedSplat. You're old man, worn out. You die a forum warrior or live long enough to see yourself become Zymurgist.

Trok Mienal
Posted - 2009.09.19 14:15:00 - [161]
 

Edited by: Trok Mienal on 19/09/2009 14:33:36
Today's Update

Total Members: 11
Total Active Within the Past 10 Days: 4 - Including Joe

Total Wars: 5
Corporations at War with the I.C.:
Standards and Practices - Member Count 8
Serene Storm Society - Member Count 26
Empire Arms Dealers - Member Count 3
Yakiya Tovil-Toba Memorial Foundation - Member Count 2
Caelestis Iudicium - Member Count 1

Total Pilots at War with Joe Total: 40

Yes, you read that right. The Serene Storm Society has declared war on I.C. once again. From what CEO Abraxus Max tells me they decided to declare war on Joe once again for the following reasons.

1. Joe should not be running a corporation until he is able to be a more effective leader.

2. The members of the SSS asked if a war could be declared until he resigns as CEO.

I think both are good reasons. Needless to say 40 pilots all going after a single incompetent CEO who has no financial backing is really really funny.

Oh and Joe, I am happy to re-apply on Trok at any time and accept the Job as CEO. You know, if you get tired of running in fear in your multiple warp core stab'd drake. Mind you there is a very high probability I will dissolve the corp. But hey, you never know. :)

-Trok





Abenham
Posted - 2009.09.19 19:39:00 - [162]
 

Hi all - just another little update on the Joe watch for those who aren't bored to tears yet.

Was trawling the forums for lack of a better thing to do and came across this little gem.

PVP Joke

For those too lazy to click the link. the joke went like this:

A pirate with a warp disruptor attacks a missioner with a warp drive stabilizer. The missioner warps away. The pirate finds him later and attacks him again but the missioner once again warps out.

The missioner asks "Why do you keep attacking me?"

The pirate replies, "I'm not sure now, I'm starting to think this might be pointless."

This made me think fondly of Joe so I eve mailed him the joke to peruse in his spare time (didn't want to drag him away from any important CEO duties so that's why I eve mailed him instead of the good old private convo)

Unfortunately. I don't think Joe appreciated the joke.

Baillif
AQUILA INC
Posted - 2009.09.20 02:47:00 - [163]
 

What happened I went to go get some food?

Is the press conference over?

Trok Mienal
Posted - 2009.09.20 04:35:00 - [164]
 

Edited by: Trok Mienal on 20/09/2009 04:36:09
Originally by: Baillif
What happened I went to go get some food?

Is the press conference over?


Who knows. Joe seems to have ran away with his tail between his legs. Either that or he is so incompetent he cant even remember to run his own press conference. Joe now has 5 war declarations on him with a combined strength of at least 40 pilots. But as Joe doesn't seem to be thinking rationally (not that he ever does), I don't think hes doing the smart thing and laying low. Instead he no doubt is hiding from the eve forums like a koala bear lost inside the chainsaw section of a Sears and just continuing to go about his old ways in-game.

-Trok Mienal ugh

Ace Greywolf
Greywolves
Emergent Dawn
Posted - 2009.09.20 09:07:00 - [165]
 

Edited by: Ace Greywolf on 20/09/2009 09:15:10
seems like Joe:s gone awall Laughing
i just don get it... guy sets up a press conference and when sh*t starts hitting the fan he runs and hides...
Greywolves will be joining coalition against Joe in 24 hours!
--Ace--

ShadowMaiden
Amarr
Atrocity.
Posted - 2009.09.20 15:00:00 - [166]
 

Joe, why are you taking a computer game so seriously?

Susy Assulu
Caldari
Atomic Mexicans
Posted - 2009.09.20 15:36:00 - [167]
 

Originally by: ShadowMaiden
Joe, why are you taking a computer game so seriously?
You must understand computer games a much more than just serious they are serious. This alone makes them serious.

Andrea Griffin
Posted - 2009.09.20 15:53:00 - [168]
 

Originally by: Baillif
What happened I went to go get some food?

Is the press conference over?
Maybe he took everyone's advice and he is hushing up for the time being until our tiny ADD brains forget about him. Very Happy

Grinik
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.09.20 21:15:00 - [169]
 

Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Maybe he took everyone's advice and he is hushing up for the time being until our tiny ADD brains forget about him. Very Happy


forget about Joe Phoenix?! NEVER!

Barakkus
Posted - 2009.09.20 23:39:00 - [170]
 

So is this Sairah Aida you hired recently, the "PR Expert" going to take over your press confrence for you Joe?

Maisonian
Amarr
The Green Machine
Posted - 2009.09.21 17:29:00 - [171]
 

Oh ho! Where is Joe?

Wasteland Baroness
Posted - 2009.09.21 18:15:00 - [172]
 

A/S/L?

g0ggalor
Posted - 2009.09.21 21:38:00 - [173]
 

So is the Joe show over?

Ninja Troll
Posted - 2009.09.21 21:44:00 - [174]
 

Errrr, x6 pages and the OP hasn't posted since pg 4!?!

Suggest thread title get changed to include "Dead Horse Beating"

Zedrik Cayne
Gallente
Standards and Practices
Posted - 2009.09.21 22:16:00 - [175]
 

Edited by: Zedrik Cayne on 21/09/2009 22:19:11
The latest on the Joe Show (tm) was put up on my blog over the weekend. But nothing since then. Sorry, no new Joe Show unless the star of the show actually does something.

Um...right..blog link... Here we go.

But nothing terribly exciting there.

Edit: You might want to check out the eve-tribune in a week or two though. Had a pleasant interview over the weekend.

AdmiralJohn
Gallente
Origin of Sanshaa
Posted - 2009.09.21 23:18:00 - [176]
 

Speaking of which: Linky

xDrAgOnSoUlWaRiOrx1996
BOUNTY. HUNTER. MINING. EXSPLORATION. CORPORATION.
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.09.22 01:19:00 - [177]
 

Someone is stupid in an MMO, I must spread the word via blogs, chat channels and incessant forums posting!!!
The world must know about this ground-breaking discovery!!!

THE L0CK
Posted - 2009.09.22 04:40:00 - [178]
 

Originally by: Joe
there is no lee wayn


You make Lee Wayn a sad panda bear Crying or Very sad

g0ggalor
Posted - 2009.09.22 15:44:00 - [179]
 

Originally by: AdmiralJohn
Speaking of which: Linky
Well, I guess the Joe Show has ended. It was entertaining while it lasted, but its good to see he finally woke up though.

Sen Roo
Gallente
Net 7
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2009.09.24 18:43:00 - [180]
 

Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 16/09/2009 22:07:41
trok, nobody cares.. we all know you'v been payed off.

And i don't have a favourity communist leader, there systems have always been flawed.

trustworthy joe

I think i should lead because i am a natural leader, basicly.. some people are biult to lead, others are biult to annoy people who lead.


Umm those aren't reasons Joe. Please restate with facts, please.

P.S. Keep up with the great work, Joe! The Joe Show rocks and I haven't laughed like this in a long time. Laughing


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