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Neme Nishta
Posted - 2009.09.10 16:29:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Doomed Predator
Maybe not industy, but as a trader i would like to see:


-my order colored blue instead of green(if in range) or not colored at all. Would make thins much easier to track

-separate modify price and cancel order or at least add a ''Are you sure you want to cancel?'' window(which can be disabled)

-double clicking an order in the orders subsection of the wallet no longer gives the items info, but the modify price window


/agreed

I'd also like a UI change to the market window so that the buy and sell order list stay put when you switch from the order tab to the detail tab and back again instead of scrolling to the top.

Martosh Toma
Gallente
Fraction Investment
Posted - 2009.09.10 16:41:00 - [32]
 

Some form where economy of scale provides a benefit like:

- an advantage for industrialists to band together in a corp other than central blueprint availebility, perhaps by using corp standings to influence production overhead costs
- make producing a single batch of 200 items cheaper than 10 batches of 20
- splitting manufacturing rights (can create factory runs, can cancel (and see) own factory runs, factory overseer (access to all active corp factory jobs)
- something similar for pos based production
- same for research
- make the corp trader thing mean something, maybe diversify like manufacturing.
- scheduled contracts (pick up and/or deliver x every thursday / first saturday of the month (for x times))

Martosh Toma
Gallente
Fraction Investment
Posted - 2009.09.10 16:52:00 - [33]
 

introduce a form of billing option, perhaps trough an contract interface

like a contract: corp (x) will attack (y/n) corp (y) as long as corp (x/y/z) pays some amount every week trough an automatcally issued bill (billing automatically ended is war is made/dropped, contract failed if either party fails to uphold terms (list breach reason)

or a contract for standings, soverignty access, area access/denial (stay at/away from x and we pay you amount)

flakeys
The Great cornholio's
Paper Tiger Coalition
Posted - 2009.09.10 16:57:00 - [34]
 

Since i have stepped down from trading i will not ask for much.Th only thing that allways annoyed me to hell is the cancel order button.Eihter move the cancel order button down a bit instead of right under the adjust order button OR ask a verification.

I had it a numerous times where i was asked:The order is 97% below market value are you sure you want this, wich was annoying since i obviously wanted it to be that low but when i tried updating 500ish orders every week i had it a few times where orders where cancelled because of lag-misclicking.I wish at those times i did get the question if i really wanted to cancel it.





XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
Posted - 2009.09.10 16:59:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Jastvale
Edited by: Jastvale on 10/09/2009 16:17:26
I posted this in the features and idea forum and it was suggested that I post it here as well. I do hope this is the correct place to post this, if not I apologize for the intrusion.

While many of the ideas here are with actual UI changes and behaviors I would like to see a Trade Hub POS module ("Trade Hub Array" so named by XXSketchxx in the thread below) or control tower created to extend limited local market functionality to colonized WH space.

To save time and not to repeat a wall of text I have provided a link to the "Features and Ideas Discussion" Forum below.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1176442



quoting this cause a Trade Hub Array would be pretty useful

tl;dr an anchorable POS array with about as much space as a SMA, requires a lot of cpu/grid so only really plausible to put on a large tower, and the main part, allows for contracts to be put up by corp/alliance/blues to facilitate trade in remote areas (i.e. wormhole space).

OwlManAtt
Gallente
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2009.09.10 17:12:00 - [36]
 

API method for listing blueprints with their ME/PE levels. Please.

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2009.09.10 17:58:00 - [37]
 

Price History Table view - Show the 5 and 20 day moving avgs and the median here in the table format and not just on the graph.

My orders in Blue/yellow/Purple/Chartruse, don't care long as I know they are mine/corp.

Bond Market with ratings enforced by the cold unthinking code using past history as the data point, meaning we all start out with crap tripple D rating.

Stock Market of non voting shares.

Market Agent - Allow hire/rent of npc agent/broker in another region so you can open two market windows and not play alt meta game. Number of agents based on a skill, five agents max maybe.

Find a use for all trade goods in high/low and null, allow players to produce all trade goods in high/low and null.

Increase marginal return on courier contracts to contractor by reducing risk to contractee.

Fix smuggling, not exactly market but kinda is.

If it can be repackaged, allow it to be listed on the market.

Decentivise 0.01 isk wars by increasing cost to small moves and/or frequency.

Allow self to plastic wrap, but not double wrap to avoid recrusion probs. (would "fix" smuggling though ;) )

Krathos Morpheus
Legion Infernal
Posted - 2009.09.10 18:27:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Krathos Morpheus on 10/09/2009 18:45:50
Originally by: Takakura Hirohito
1. Highlight my sell/buy orders when I view the regional market.
2. With #1 implemented, allow me to modify my sell/buy orders by right-clicking in the regional market.

THIS

Originally by: Ta'jek
Personal wallet divisions similar to what is available for corporate wallets.
And this

Originally by: Trebor DeCaldar
List faction / deadspace items on Market.
Ships and Mods.

Tired of having to dig through contracts to find these
Either this or CONTRACT UI REVAMP

Quote:
-double clicking an order in the orders subsection of the wallet no longer gives the items info, but the modify price window
This is useful too

Quote:
Bond Market with ratings enforced by the cold unthinking code using past history as the data point, meaning we all start out with crap tripple D rating.
Ratings are manipulable through friends or alts, so just a matter of time until they are useless, so no thanks. I would like instead a Bond and Share Market wich links to a COSMOS page where you can find the usual info and discussions we make here at MD, with a dedicated place for the info and discussions ordered from recent to old. Keeping changes record would help too. Also tools to customize payments and shares privileges.

flakeys
The Great cornholio's
Paper Tiger Coalition
Posted - 2009.09.10 18:40:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Krathos Morpheus
Originally by: Takakura Hirohito
1. Highlight my sell/buy orders when I view the regional market.
2. With #1 implemented, allow me to modify my sell/buy orders by right-clicking in the regional market.

THIS


Well , this would be tha bomb for traders indeed.If i had this when i did regionals it would made work SO much easier.


Terrible Karma
Posted - 2009.09.10 19:02:00 - [40]
 

0. End 0.01 isk Wars!!!! Allow players to buy from ANY market listing as opposed to defaulting to the cheapest. Alternatively, use a proxy bidding system.
1. Public POS research slots! Create an option to make POS labs and assemblies available for public usage in the same way that public station facilities are available.
2. Remote POS research/manufacturing! Allow remote science and manufacturing at a POS from a distance greater than 'within solar system'.
3. Create tools for player run stores

  • a. A market subsection containing a list of player run stores

  • b. Ability to display a store interface (perhaps similar to a mini market interface.

  • c. Ability to list store inventory

  • d. Ability to place store orders

  • e. other obvious store requirements


4. Create a public loan contract. It must have:

  • a. Item(s)/isk available for loan or item(s)/isk requested as a loan

  • b. Duration of the loan

  • c. Duration of contract offer


Alain Kinsella
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.09.10 19:21:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Alain Kinsella on 10/09/2009 19:31:52
Originally by: Terrible Karma
0. End 0.01 isk Wars!!!! Allow players to buy from ANY market listing as opposed to defaulting to the cheapest. Alternatively, use a proxy bidding system.


I believe this is possible already; Right-click on the appropriate order and buy. I'm not certain if the same can be done for selling through a specific 'green' buy order.

EDIT - Can you give an example of what you want implemented?

Quote:
1. Public POS research slots! Create an option to make POS labs and assemblies available for public usage in the same way that public station facilities are available.


I like this idea, but is unlikely that any corp will willingly offer up unused research slots (even at 2x/3x+ public costs). They're much more likely to more aggressively ask those in NPC corps to join them.

Quote:
2. Remote POS research/manufacturing! Allow remote science and manufacturing at a POS from a distance greater than 'within solar system'.



I'm kinda surprised by this one, and agree to this suggestion if its correct; The current format defeats the long-term usefulness of skills that allow remote research and manufacturing up to regional level.

On a related note, if you *do* have those skills it would be nice to allow remote job requests to cross region boundaries (the max of 20 jumps at L4 would apply in this case).

--A_K

Mme Pinkerton
The pink win
Posted - 2009.09.10 19:35:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Alain Kinsella
Originally by: Terrible Karma
0. End 0.01 isk Wars!!!! Allow players to buy from ANY market listing as opposed to defaulting to the cheapest. Alternatively, use a proxy bidding system.


I believe this is possible already; Right-click on the appropriate order and buy. I'm not certain if the same can be done for selling through a specific 'green' buy order.



You're wrong, this just makes you overpay on the cheapest order.

Annika Petrovich
Posted - 2009.09.10 19:54:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Annika Petrovich on 10/09/2009 20:00:59
Edited by: Annika Petrovich on 10/09/2009 20:00:16
Originally by: Takakura Hirohito
1. Highlight my sell/buy orders when I view the regional market.
2. With #1 implemented, allow me to modify my sell/buy orders by right-clicking in the regional market.



I would love anything that let me visually identify if my orders have been 0.01 sniped.

Also, it would be nice to "add to hotbar" from a specific item's details screen. Right now you have to search for the item and add it from the results list or find it in the browser tree.

e: and the "Cancel order" option next to "update order" is awful.

mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
Posted - 2009.09.10 20:56:00 - [44]
 

I have a suggestion that needs to be added!

You know how, when you open the market, buy orders out of range are grey and the ones in range are green?

Well, we need a second color... Personal buy and and sell orders should be highlighted blue. That way, you can quickly glance at the market and see if your orders are priced right. No more "signature .37" at the end of every order to try and track them, the blue highlighted order will be quickly visible!

I think this is an easy change that will greatly help every trader in eve. As someone with 200+ orders, if you push this through, I'll be forever grateful.

Slave 2739FKZ
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.09.10 21:32:00 - [45]
 

- Hightlight my own orders, damnit.

- Introduce variable taxing depending on trade volume! (will leave balancing to CCP) will create a MUCH more dynamic economy and more trading hubs.

- Probably related with the last: make empire larger! travelling must be longer, removing some links between empires may help this, mroe dynamic and changing market.

Chicus
Gallente
Council Othala
Posted - 2009.09.10 23:07:00 - [46]
 

As a beginner/noob marketeer, I too would like to see my orders highlighted.

Also, more graphs and the like dealing with my own wallet. Average income per day etc.

And (if you cant already) the ability to have multiple personal wallets. I'd like one for marketeering, one for missioning, or just isk for a rainy day wallet.

HawkBlade
Posted - 2009.09.10 23:14:00 - [47]
 

Alot of great ideas as well as some weird or bad ones. My small contribution:

- Have the S&I Interface/API log who delivers/cancels a job.

Kyle Nav
Posted - 2009.09.10 23:38:00 - [48]
 

I would love to see a developed stock market take hold

Banking on the other hand would be too difficult to enforce without changing major components of the game? How would you handle it? Have Concord take away sec status? Integrate it into a reformed bounty system?

IF i were to implement such a feet as a stock market or bank, the only way i could figure about going through that is from faction NPC corps. Player corps would align themselves with some sort of faction (or not if they are going to do things old school) the credit is then pulled out underneth the NPC factions name, so if someone doesnt repay NPC standings or Faction standings will change against this character.

Of course any punishment such as this would have to be restricted ie. you couldnt pull out large loans or something along that line.

ps. I would love to be able to buy NPC corp stock, might be a way to introduce more of the eve fiction into the game. Might even be able to link stocks with faction warfare activitiy which could make it more independant and in players control

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2009.09.11 02:47:00 - [49]
 

Bump for relevance.

The only thing I wanted to add is something to consider for those throwing out ideas. One issue raised during previous discussions is that any feature that allows ISK to be generated out of nothing in the system (futures, banks, etc) has the potential for abuse since accounts can be nuked and consequences aren't tied to the player -- only the character. This isn't to say these can't be implemented into EVE directly, but it is a major hurdle that has to be overcome. If someone can game the system, they will.

This is just a basic idea thread though, so it's not overly important. But it still should be part of the thought process when making suggestions. Exploitable systems are bad. Options for doing new types of business or doing business better are good.

Kitchie
Gallente
Vikramaditya
Posted - 2009.09.11 03:14:00 - [50]
 

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this but I'd really an additional Marketing role in the corporation so that ANY member with this role can adjust Corp market orders, not solely the person who put the order up.


Calipha
Gallente
E.M.P. Industries
Malum Exuro
Posted - 2009.09.11 06:17:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: Calipha on 11/09/2009 13:48:14

1. Corporation market orders that can be modified/canceled by anyone with appropriate roles.

2. Personal wallet & hangar divisions.

3. Increase courier contract size limit.

4. Some way to tell BPOs from BPCs at a glance.

5. Ability to start multiple manufacturing/research/invention jobs of the same type/parameters at once, (i.e. shift-click to select multiple BPOs/BPCs, then the available slots).

6. Share transactions / trading. Option to force buyback of shares.

edit: Oh, and move "cancel order" to somewhere other than right next to "modify order."

Heroldyn
Posted - 2009.09.11 06:25:00 - [52]
 

ending the .1 isk wars is something ccp should not attempt, unless they have a !very! clever alternative system in mind.
just allowing buyers to choose the order to buy from would make the market worse for everyone. something people will realize almost imediatly after such a change were made.

Freya Lorell
Posted - 2009.09.11 08:00:00 - [53]
 

My requests would be:

1. Allow modification of corporate orders by others in the corporation (including proper roles).
2. When browsing through the corporate orders in the market view, do not scroll to the top when a sell/buy has occured.

KtoJest
Minmatar
Silkroad Partners
Posted - 2009.09.11 08:35:00 - [54]
 

1. search capability in wallet/orders
2. color code soon-to-expire orders (less than 24 hrs eg)
3. view and manipulate contents (add to, remove from) of station containers remotely (maybe this is now possible dunno)

Carniflex
StarHunt
Fallout Project
Posted - 2009.09.11 09:55:00 - [55]
 

(1) Decouple industry and research roles for corp. Make possible to grant member ability to install and deliver jobs, but not cancel jobs.

(2) Make new, better Science and Industry interface. At least make the damn thing remember last settings.

Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
Posted - 2009.09.11 10:16:00 - [56]
 

Edited by: Jin Nib on 11/09/2009 10:17:44
Originally by: Heroldyn
ending the .1 isk wars is something ccp should not attempt, unless they have a !very! clever alternative system in mind.
just allowing buyers to choose the order to buy from would make the market worse for everyone. something people will realize almost imediatly after such a change were made.
Thankfully I don't think anything like this will be implemented. Simply because it would make the illegitimate trade and transfer of ISK too easy.

Edit: Oh yes I agree with specially highlighted personal orders! If only one thing got done this would be the one I want.

Slave 2739FKZ
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.09.11 11:11:00 - [57]
 

Guys, there is a thread in S&I forum for industry related suggestions (half of the thread), could you please keep this related to trading? thanks.

- Introduce at once ingame stock exchange and more stock management etc. tools (and fix the ones we have).
- Tied to that, more roles to manage it all.

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2009.09.11 11:38:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Chicus

Also, more graphs and the like dealing with my own wallet. Average income per day etc.



(Bias alert: I'm the author of such a tool)

I'd leave that to the 3rd party developers. All we need for this is a rich API. Given that, the community has proven to come up with lots of useful tools since the API was first introduced.

Ad Valorem
Minmatar
Industrial Mite
Posted - 2009.09.11 11:40:00 - [59]
 

Edited by: Ad Valorem on 11/09/2009 11:42:04
Edited by: Ad Valorem on 11/09/2009 11:41:44
The ability to deny enemies or those with bad standing the ability to buy from my orders, or to levy an extra tax on their purchase.

Edit: And as mentioned above, richer API data, especially something to help sites like Eve-Central more accurately portray current prices.


Lashmar
Posted - 2009.09.11 11:47:00 - [60]
 

Another vote for personal wallet divisions in the same way there are corp wallet divisions. Even if this was implemented as a skill:

Money Management
30M to buy
Each skill level increases the number of wallet divisions by 1 for personal wallet.
training time multiplier as appropriate.

Balance as needed, but let people pay the money if they want the ability? I'd happily do this.


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