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steveid
Viziam
Posted - 2009.09.01 19:54:00 - [1]
 

I would like to start by saying that DEV's playing eve is a good thing. It keeps them grounded in the game, gives them the opportunity to experience what we experience and hear from their customer's what they actually think.

Dev's in major alliances is also a good thing for much the same reasons.

What worries me is the information that can be gleaned from these people about future expansions.

The coming sov changes have the potential to really shake eve up. That linked with DUST will have lasting and massive effect upon the current status of alliances in eve.

When we look at these changes as the average Joe in eve we wait and see what will happen. What I find interesting is that there are reactions going on in eve right now that we dont know about in relation to this due to information that people have gotton from places unknown.

An example of this is the wonderful goonswarm. Currently building outposts at an impressive rate. When questioned on the forums about this they respond with "in three month's you will understand". Do they know something we dont? Perhaps and tbh I wish them good luck.

This kind of thing falls over into the market also. How many illicit fortunes are made from anything as varied as buying up cargo expander bpo's at the right time to market trading in T2 BPO's and bulk buying goods for resale at a later date.

We will never know throughout eves history the impact upon the economy of this but if they ever find the cupboard that economist hides in I would really like to see how and when the market reacts to stimuli that should be secret until its release.

Now i'm not screaming dev misconduct or !!11!! omg T20 !!11!! here but I do think its interesting how Eve is reacting if at all to an expansion whp's content has yet to be revealed.

Iamanoo bandyousuck
Posted - 2009.09.01 19:55:00 - [2]
 

not a new issue.

whats the point of thread? you got idea to solve it ?

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
Posted - 2009.09.01 20:57:00 - [3]
 


This is a strawman.. you've said there is no problem with Devs playing, a non-issue, then you attempt to spread fear and doubt.

The paint isn't even dry on the name Dominion; we don't even have a complete feature list for Dust yet. Why start conspiracy theories early?


Carniflex
StarHunt
Fallout Project
Posted - 2009.09.01 21:06:00 - [4]
 

Then again it might be speculation on goons part. Or they might want to use those outposts for something else and if they end up counting for sov thats also uber.

I mean - if sov will get complete overhaul it's logical that outposts will be somehow involved in there. To what degree and how - who knows. But you do not need to be rocked scientist to suspect they will have some effect. Outposts are at planets, right. And Planets will see also some considerable use when dust will hit - will it not.

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2009.09.01 21:11:00 - [5]
 

This is always going to be a valid point. We aren't playing WoW here, Devs and GMs can use inside knowledge to much greater personal benefit, and even shape the universe with it. To expect them not to is naive.

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2009.09.01 21:13:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Professor Tarantula
This is always going to be a valid point. We aren't playing WoW here, Devs and GMs can use inside knowledge to much greater personal benefit, and even shape the universe with it. To expect them not to is naive.

Other than the fact that Internal Affairs would not be happy.

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2009.09.01 21:15:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
This is always going to be a valid point. We aren't playing WoW here, Devs and GMs can use inside knowledge to much greater personal benefit, and even shape the universe with it. To expect them not to is naive.

Other than the fact that Internal Affairs would not be happy.


Who watches the watchers?

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2009.09.01 21:20:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: De''Veldrin on 01/09/2009 21:20:53
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
This is always going to be a valid point. We aren't playing WoW here, Devs and GMs can use inside knowledge to much greater personal benefit, and even shape the universe with it. To expect them not to is naive.

Other than the fact that Internal Affairs would not be happy.


Who watches the watchers?


Human Resources.
They who possess the keys to the paychecks.

I mean let's face it, if you're willing to risk your real life job to make some additional not-real life money in a game - that takes a special kind of stupid.

Not that it hasn't happened, obviously, but it's still pretty damned dumb.

Siona Windweaver
Placeholder Holdings
Posted - 2009.09.01 21:20:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Siona Windweaver on 01/09/2009 21:20:16
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
This is always going to be a valid point. We aren't playing WoW here, Devs and GMs can use inside knowledge to much greater personal benefit, and even shape the universe with it. To expect them not to is naive.

Other than the fact that Internal Affairs would not be happy.


What would IA do if the said dev says he has nothing to do with it and he's just a member? Everyone uses Teamspeak these days, unless IA records every ts conversation I don't see them being anything but a joke to be quite honest. They can view the logs all they want, but they won't be able to catch a dev if the dev doesn't want them to.

T20 was silly enough to get relaxed, and he got cought. What happens if a dev acts carefully?

/tinfoilhat on

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2009.09.01 21:23:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Siona Windweaver
Edited by: Siona Windweaver on 01/09/2009 21:20:16
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
This is always going to be a valid point. We aren't playing WoW here, Devs and GMs can use inside knowledge to much greater personal benefit, and even shape the universe with it. To expect them not to is naive.

Other than the fact that Internal Affairs would not be happy.


What would IA do if the said dev says he has nothing to do with it and he's just a member? Everyone uses Teamspeak these days, unless IA records every ts conversation I don't see them being anything but a joke to be quite honest. They can view the logs all they want, but they won't be able to catch a dev if the dev doesn't want them to.

T20 was silly enough to get relaxed, and he got cought. What happens if a dev acts carefully?

/tinfoilhat on


Sucessful cons are not long term affairs. Human nature is exactly what caught T20 - he waited to long, got too happy with the results, and got comfortable. He relaxed, because that's what humans do.

A good con artist (or criminal in general) gets in, gets the loot, and gets the hell out.

Then they relax.

No Homo
Gallente
Big Heart Industries
Posted - 2009.09.01 21:23:00 - [11]
 

Wild Speculation? Check.
Conspiracy Theory? Check.
Blamed Goons? Check.

Good post.


 

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