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Ehranavaar
Gallente
Posted - 2009.08.25 16:04:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: Joe Skellington

... letting the more impatient younger crowd play the more action oriented "console" element and the more intellegent crowd stay in the game that has a higher learning curve...




Way to go.
Lemme guess: you will stay in the game - coz you are all brainz.
And all the ones playing consoles are just ADHD kiddos.


We need more cliches. They are fun and easy to apply...


cliches are cliches because there is underlying truth to them.

Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service
Posted - 2009.08.25 16:05:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Ehranavaar
Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: Joe Skellington

... letting the more impatient younger crowd play the more action oriented "console" element and the more intellegent crowd stay in the game that has a higher learning curve...




Way to go.
Lemme guess: you will stay in the game - coz you are all brainz.
And all the ones playing consoles are just ADHD kiddos.


We need more cliches. They are fun and easy to apply...


cliches are cliches because there is underlying truth to them.


i have a ps3, but i rarely play on it. this will probably change soon enough

Hereon Herinnger
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.08.25 16:17:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Synex
CCP made EVE.

Eve is mostly awesome (by far the best MMO out there, despite it's flaws).

CCP are going to make DUST.


I'd just like to point out the logical conclusion here:

Dust will be mostly awesome (by far the best FPS out there, despite its flaws).

(It also won't destroy the universe.)

Jarna
Amarr
Air EVE
Posted - 2009.08.25 16:49:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Joe Skellington
Edited by: Joe Skellington on 24/08/2009 15:10:29
I may have been a bit hasty in my knee-jerk reaction to this console game with my comments about possible negative ramifications on the game. Change is like anything else, the unknown can induce fear and doubt. One thing is for sure, it may polarize the community, letting the more impatient younger crowd play the more action oriented "console" element and the more intelligent crowd stay in the game that has a higher learning curve, thus making the deviding line more distinct. Not sure if this is a good or bad thing, but it will give those that crave more "action" and simplicity a nitche that they can go to, plus draw millions of more real money in sales and potential sequels for even more money to help develop our universe. At least that's what I'm hoping.


Well, it quite well defines the difference between Commanders and Grunts in the real world. lol
I like your description.

Chaosgabe TWC
Caldari
Posted - 2009.08.25 17:49:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Chaosgabe TWC on 25/08/2009 17:53:31
I dont want to derail this thread, but atm PlanetSide shows some lifesigns.
There was a 45 day free to play phase, where all the guys with an old acc could play for free. And there was talk about a servermerge, should happen today.
And there are quite a lot of players returning, c-chat was full of old memories. Yesterday we had a goodbye werner event, gathering in a Warpgate for some awesome screenshots. And ive seen Oste back, running around in his trusty Dualcycler Max.

Ive even seen a poplock, for the first time in years! (Though to be honest, that was on gemini)

Btw: Werner-NC ftw :D

Edit:
Before i forget it: There is talk about Dust in PlanetSide, id think quite some ppl came here after they left PS.

Salmeria
Tovarsky Pharmaceuticals
Posted - 2009.08.25 18:08:00 - [36]
 

what they need to do is allow producers to build stuff and arm the dusters.

make it so that someone running l4s could easily supply a small dust outfit.

like if you were to reprocess a rifter and build guns out of it, it would be enough guns to really keep you going for a while

trash77
Posted - 2009.08.25 18:29:00 - [37]
 

Just looks like eve is going backwards. It started with universal domination, now were getting world domination.
Lets see how long it will take for ccp to buy EA games, so we can play Spore in the eve universe Very Happy

Rakessh
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.08.25 18:30:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Rakessh on 25/08/2009 18:30:01
Originally by: Joe Skellington

Hehe, that reminds me of a joke I heard in Minmatar chat:

Question: What happens when an EVE player logs out to play WoW?

Answer: It raises the average IQ of both servers.


Fixed.

Slave 2739FKZ
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.08.25 18:56:00 - [39]
 

My only problem with Dust is that's only to be going to be released on consoels (for now at least), and that's a major ****up. Apart of that the concept is kinda cool, but IMo people is dreaming too much on the interaction elvel between the two games (at least at the release).

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2009.08.25 19:33:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Chaosgabe TWC
Btw: Werner-NC ftw :D
Pff! Jackhammer nubbins, the lot of you! Razz

Irida Mershkov
Gallente
The Reformed
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.25 20:29:00 - [41]
 

I'm waiting for it now.

NERF SNIPERS THEYRE TOO OP. NERF SHOTGUNS. NERF GRENADES.

BOOST MACHINEGUNS!

Raffi derWucherkater
Posted - 2009.08.25 21:15:00 - [42]
 

Havent even certed JH. ^^
But yeah, the Gauss is a lovely gun. :D

Per Bastet
Amarr
B.O.O.M
Obsidian Mining Coalition
Posted - 2009.08.25 21:54:00 - [43]
 

Emerald VS - GoTR For Life!!

Oddymandius
Minmatar
Red Federation
Posted - 2009.08.25 22:28:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Irida Mershkov
I'm waiting for it now.

NERF SNIPERS THEYRE TOO OP. NERF SHOTGUNS. NERF GRENADES.

BOOST MACHINEGUNS!

BECAUSE OF JETPACK

Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2009.08.25 22:41:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Rakessh
Edited by: Rakessh on 25/08/2009 18:30:01
Originally by: Joe Skellington

Hehe, that reminds me of a joke I heard in Minmatar chat:

Question: What happens when an EVE player logs out to play WoW?

Answer: It raises the average IQ of both servers.


Fixed.
I'm going to play WoW again once Cataclysm comes out, unless it sucks.. which it will after 2 months and everything is soloable.

But I digress.. I play WoW

Frobos
Weird Cat Research
Zombie Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.26 02:58:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Del Narveux
Haven't really followed the main thread as I'm out of town, but the real problem I see with Dust is this. Anyone who's played for any length of time knows there's three truisms in Eve:

1. Player missions are a joke because people tend to do themselves rather than pay another.
2. Players who take Eve seriously (e.g. sov warriors) tend to have lots of accounts and alts and/or heavy alt support through their alliance.
3. MMO players are pretty elitist and FPS players rank up there with WoW in the LOL GO AWAY list. The opposite is true too of course.

So it's easy to see where this is going. Big alliances will take out a bunch of accounts in Dust and keep all their stuff in-house, just like they do in Eve. Meanwhile there will be epic level forum PvP as the two communities go at it. Fine if they're separate, but tie one game to the other and I see one of the following things happening, based on how other attempts have turned out:

Face of Mankind: Everyone who's not already part of the alliance system gets left out in the cold. Eventually they run out of money, get ****ed and quit. CCP gets flamed hard and spends two years after Dust release focusing on damage control.

Tabula Rasa: The sov wars angle stagnates and it basically becomes PvE. Alliances get bored and go back to blobbing, regular players hang around but with no incoming drama from Eve they quickly tire of it. Game withers away.

Faction Warfare: Basically same as the Tabula Rasa ending except alliances don't leave. Dust fighting becomes sporadic raid empty plexes type stuff. Heavy blowback in Eve as people feel like sov wars are now a crapshoot. Obviously this one's the most dangerous, and is why I'm posting this, as Dust done poorly could do a lot of damage to both games.

Don't get me wrong, I applaud CCP for trying to make an MMOFPS that doesn't suck. But I really don't see any good coming from trying to tie the two games together.



Incredibly sad but sooo true. Except I would add more lasers and podding references to the first sentence about face of mankind.

Komen
Gallente
Capital Enrichment Services
Posted - 2009.08.26 03:43:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Chaosgabe TWC
Edited by: Chaosgabe TWC on 25/08/2009 17:53:31
I dont want to derail this thread, but atm PlanetSide shows some lifesigns.
There was a 45 day free to play phase, where all the guys with an old acc could play for free. And there was talk about a servermerge, should happen today.
And there are quite a lot of players returning, c-chat was full of old memories. Yesterday we had a goodbye werner event, gathering in a Warpgate for some awesome screenshots. And ive seen Oste back, running around in his trusty Dualcycler Max.

Ive even seen a poplock, for the first time in years! (Though to be honest, that was on gemini)

Btw: Werner-NC ftw :D

Edit:
Before i forget it: There is talk about Dust in PlanetSide, id think quite some ppl came here after they left PS.


TR forever, though I don't remember what server I played on. Same character name in both games.

Blake Ice
Gallente
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.08.26 04:56:00 - [48]
 

I think dust instead of ambulation on planets is not a good move. They think that alliances between the two systems will form because sovereignty will be linked to dust. The alliances will end up doing the work on the consoles to keep their sov status.

I know they want to make money by selling something, and they got practically free labor to make it. But, the console users and the console itself isn't mmo friendly.

What they should do is the following:

1. Release the game as stand alone and make their money off of it.
2. Make an eve scope rts or civilization game where the hardware for the game must be manufactured within the eve economy. Isk sink anyone?

Irida Mershkov
Gallente
The Reformed
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.26 11:30:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Oddymandius
Originally by: Irida Mershkov
I'm waiting for it now.

NERF SNIPERS THEYRE TOO OP. NERF SHOTGUNS. NERF GRENADES.

BOOST MACHINEGUNS!

BECAUSE OF JETPACK

Haha, damn right. Also, CCP, I noticed the weapon in the dust trailer looked eerily like the XM8, this isn't going to be like Doctor Who, where we still use G36cs thousands and thousands of years into the future? Razz

ShardowRhino
Caldari
Torque Theory
Posted - 2009.08.26 11:44:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Joe Skellington
Edited by: Joe Skellington on 24/08/2009 15:10:29
letting the more impatient younger crowd play the more action oriented "console" element and the more intelligent crowd stay in the game that has a higher learning curve,


You sir are a complete moron for such a statement. I would say worse but you get the point.

ShardowRhino
Caldari
Torque Theory
Posted - 2009.08.26 11:58:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Chaosgabe TWC
Edited by: Chaosgabe TWC on 25/08/2009 17:53:31
I dont want to derail this thread, but atm PlanetSide shows some lifesigns.
There was a 45 day free to play phase, where all the guys with an old acc could play for free. And there was talk about a servermerge, should happen today.
And there are quite a lot of players returning, c-chat was full of old memories. Yesterday we had a goodbye werner event, gathering in a Warpgate for some awesome screenshots. And ive seen Oste back, running around in his trusty Dualcycler Max.

Ive even seen a poplock, for the first time in years! (Though to be honest, that was on gemini)

Btw: Werner-NC ftw :D

Edit:
Before i forget it: There is talk about Dust in PlanetSide, id think quite some ppl came here after they left PS.


Welcome to several years ago. Yeah lots of those stupid adhd kiddiez that the moronic OP mentioned came to PS. Some went went to eq2 and or wow. Of course theres going to be people talking about DUST. Hopefully CCP can make DUST close to Planetside when it comes to how all of the areas are always open and tons of people can flood into one sector or planet instead of being yet another small server FPS game.


Of course this idea that people that play FPS games could never have the brains or paitience to double click in a direction for our ship to fly towards goes against the OP's truly moronic statements. Does eve have a higher learnedededed curve then PS? I think its more about where to kilick da mouze then anything elze.


I could say that eve only players have the hand eye coordination of stevie wonders with both hands cut off. The mental speed of a ******ed sea urchin and barely enough skill to mash their hand and forehead against the keyboard to hit f1-f8. This leads to them hating any game that doesn't allow them to be "better" then other players because they have been subbed longer. I can also say they suffer from "little mans" disease to top it all off. Of course that would be a generalization,but a generalization are based upon experience with some eve only players.


So if people that just play fps games are stupid,hyper,kiddies and eve only players are cryin over their small ***** and hope that their f1-f8 can save them, what does that make those of us that can play FPS and EVE? Oh their overlords?:) Hmmm...perhaps....Laughing


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