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BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.22 11:58:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: BigBold on 24/01/2010 12:02:18
Edited by: BigBold on 12/01/2010 06:55:07

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Welcome to BigBold's Massive Craps Game!


~ Terrifically Exciting ~ Stunningly Simple ~ Easy to Play ~ Easy to Win ~ Tons of ISK ~ Fair and Secure ~ Runs EVERY DAY! ~






Update 24.Jan 2010:The game has moved on to a new and improved version, and this thread is for the history books only. See here for the new thread!








1. Guess the result of rolling a single, normal, 6-sided die.

2. Give money (in 1,000,000-s of ISK) to the character whose number you think will come up on the die.

  • To bet on 1, send ISK to Craps1

  • To bet on 2, send ISK to Craps2

  • To bet on 3, send ISK to Craps3

  • To bet on 4, send ISK to Craps4

  • To bet on 5, send ISK to Craps5

  • To bet on 6, send ISK to Craps6

3. Wait for the independently and openly conducted daily dice roll

4. If you guessed correctly, your character will automatically receive 3x to 8x the money you bet!


Simply transfer your bet to the character matching your guess at any* time, and if your guess was correct, the next day you log in to EVE you'll see your wallet icon blinking with a much larger amount!

Dice rolls for the game are conducted by an independent third party, licensed and audited gambling operator random.org, whose random values are used for real-world sweepstakes and lotteries around the world. Every day at midnight they generate a single, unchangeable, verifiable, daily list of random numbers from 1 to 6, the first two of which are being used as the daily dice roll in this game.

  • The first random number in their list is the Winning Roll. If this roll matches the number you made your bet on, you have won!


  • The second random number in that list is the Prize Roll. This determines how much money does the winner win. If your bet won, then you will win Prize Roll (1-6) plus 2 times your money back - from minimum 3x to maximum 8x your original bet!

Get 8x your money for correctly guessing the result of a single dice roll - not bad, eh? :)

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.22 11:59:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: BigBold on 28/12/2009 14:17:57

Additional Rules and Information


  • How the dice rolls work:

    • In simple terms: every night random.org rolls a die 1000 times and writes the numbers down on a single piece of paper, in the order that those dice were rolled.

      I ask for 2 daily numbers to use for my dice rolls, and they "read" for me from that piece of paper the first 2 results.

      There is only one piece of paper written for each day. Nobody knows the numbers on it beforehand. Once written, the piece of paper cannot be changed by anyone, nor can a new one be "written" for any given day. Everybody can openly see and read from that piece of paper. The winning numbers for this game are always read in order and from the top of the paper.

    • In technical terms: the winning dice rolls are determined using the "Pregenerated randomization of the day" feature of random.org's random integer generator, number range 1-6, using "Pregenerated randomization of the date" that follows the given betting period, using the first two numbers in the sequence. The link to the winning numbers is in every official results post in this thread.


  • Be careful that you send your bets to the right character(s). The characters to send bets to are named Craps1, Craps2, Craps3, Craps4, Craps5 and Craps6 - no spaces or zeroes anywhere. All of them are members of BigBold's Games [EZWIN] corporation. In fact, why not just put those characters in your addressbook?

  • If you like, then you are free to make more than one bet, on more than one number.

  • Minimum bet is 1,000,000 ISK. In order to minimize mistakes, all bets must be rounded to the next million. Fractions of millions will be rounded down and considered tips. <3

  • Maximum bet is 1 billion ISK. I'm fully committed to honor any and all winnings. Having 25+ billion in assets to put on the line for this, I'm quite confident of being able to handle any payout. To avoid keeping too much of the prize fund idly in cash, I reserve the right to pay multi-billion prizes in parts of 1 maximum bet (1 billion) each following day.

  • One betting period ranges from 00:05 to 23:55 UTC (EVE time). Bets made outside of that, in the 10 minutes of midnight, will be returned. When interpreting results, please make sure the results apply to the time period you made your bet at. Due to timezone differences, the official results will normally be posted in this thread later, at around 0500-0700 EVE. Keep in mind that the bets made after midnight, and before the results post, will participate in the next day's drawing.

  • Payouts will be made the day following the betting period, before the results for the betting period are posted (usually ~0500-0800 EVE time). There may be a delays in the rare cases I'm out of town or away from EVE for some reason, but those occasions will be announced in this thread, and the bets and winnings from those time periods will obviously be honored.

  • Unlike many other forms of EVE gambling, this game is safe and secure from abuse by design. The dice will roll every day, which means if this were a scam, the best I could get away with is a single day's bets - certainly not worth the effort thus far. To date there have been over 100 rounds of the game played, with tens of billions in prizes paid out to every winner. Not only does this game have better chances of winning than any other currently running lottery, but it's also fast and completely safe.

  • For comments, questions, errors and other reasons, post here or EVEmail BigBold.

  • Bookmark this thread to easily find the latest results!


BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.22 12:02:00 - [3]
 

Official roll of dice for bets placed from 2009-08-21 00:00 to 2009-08-21 23:59, based on random numbers for 2009-08-22

.-----. .-----.
|* *| | *|
Winning roll: | * | Prize roll: | * | + 2
|* *| |* |
'-----' '-----'

Winning roll is 5, paying out 5x the bets sent to Craps5. Congratulations!!!


To play and win at the next roll tomorrow, simply send your bets (in 1,000,000-s of ISK) to the respective character(s):
Craps1 to bet on 1, Craps2 to bet on 2, Craps3 to bet on 3, Craps4 to bet on 4, Craps5 to bet on 5, Craps6 to bet on 6.
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This is the kind of results message I will be posting in this thread every day from now on. Good luck!

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.23 07:07:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: BigBold on 23/08/2009 07:16:35
Official roll of dice for bets placed from 2009-08-22 00:00 to 2009-08-22 23:59, based on random numbers for 2009-08-23

.-----. .-----.
| *| | *|
Winning roll: | | Prize roll: | * | + 2
|* | |* |
'-----' '-----'

Winning roll is 2, paying out 5x the bets sent to Craps2. Congratulations!!!


To play and win at the next roll tomorrow, simply send your bets (in 1,000,000-s of ISK) to the respective character(s):
Craps1 to bet on 1, Craps2 to bet on 2, Craps3 to bet on 3, Craps4 to bet on 4, Craps5 to bet on 5, Craps6 to bet on 6.
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First day done :) Bets paid out.

Dunan Sanis
Caldari
State Protectorate
Posted - 2009.08.23 08:09:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Dunan Sanis on 23/08/2009 08:10:41

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.23 08:26:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: BigBold on 29/08/2009 04:09:37

DmitryEKT
Clandestine.
Posted - 2009.08.23 08:39:00 - [7]
 

posting in another "send me isk, im legit, i dont need a 3rd party" thread.

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.23 09:22:00 - [8]
 

Hello,

I'm a great fan of third party services. In fact, I'm already using one to draw the numbers. The question here is - what else could a third party do?

I'm open for suggestions, but can't really see how anyone else could help making it any more secure, apart from running the whole operation. To help my case, the game in itself is by design such that foul play is unfeasible. Wish there was an easier way, but I need to bite that bullet, and earn such trust myself the hard way.

Go on, try me. :)


Unity Love
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.08.23 09:44:00 - [9]
 

Sounds pretty cool.

The only problem I can see is lets say only one person bets on 3. You then use the random generator a few times till 3 comes up. Hell you could just say you used the generator and say 3 came up.

Not being completely negative, but is there a way the roll could be verified more completely?

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.23 10:07:00 - [10]
 

Thanks for your comments! It's good that you pointed out that the cool way the numbers are drawn needs clarifying.

Only one set of random numbers are being drawn, and only one set of numbers can be drawn each day, by the "randomization of the day" feature at random.org, that my game is using.

It's definitely not the case of mashing button and rolling new numbers until I get the ones I like - that's not possible. Thanks again for pointing out that people could've gotten that impression. Only one set of numbers can be generated with the method my game is using, and that one set of numbers is what my game uses.

You can try it yourself by going to the advanced mode integer generator at random.org, selecting that the values should be between 1 and 6, and from part 4 select "Use pregenerated randomization from <today's date>". You'll get the same numbers, and only these same numbers, that the first two of which are used in determining my dice rolls.

In fact, you can go to that page and determine the results of my draw before I even post them here, the moment the option of choosing a new day's randomization shows up there at midnight UTC.

Hope this clears it up!

Zhor
Caldari
The Alpha Company
Posted - 2009.08.23 15:52:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Zhor on 23/08/2009 18:43:34
Edited by: Zhor on 23/08/2009 18:41:43
I like the idea of this, hard for the OP to screw with things I think. However my question is, how do you determine the prize roll? I understand the process that you use for determining the winning roll, and that works flawlessly. However I don't believe you have explained how the prize roll is determined. Obviously the exact same process cannot be used because you'd just have the same number. Care to shed light on this? Forgive me if you did already explain this, but it doesn't seem like you have?

Edit - Nevermind, after re-reading it, i'm just an idiot and overlooked the fact that u can generate several numbers off of the same data while maintaining consistency.

Unity Love
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.08.23 16:03:00 - [12]
 

Cool, was hoping it would work like that. As I said just wondering, don't think you would due that.

Will probably start sending in the iskies soon.

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.23 19:50:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Zhor

I like the idea of this, hard for the OP to screw with things I think. However my question is, how do you determine the prize roll? I understand the process that you use for determining the winning roll, and that works flawlessly. However I don't believe you have explained how the prize roll is determined. Obviously the exact same process cannot be used because you'd just have the same number. Care to shed light on this? Forgive me if you did already explain this, but it doesn't seem like you have?


I see the edit, but just to clarify, random.org generates a sequence of random numbers each day, rather than just one random number.

To put it simply, every night they roll dice 1000 times and write every result down on a piece of paper, in the order that they were rolled.

Then, when I or anyone else asks for, say, 2 or 20 random numbers of the day, they would "read" down that "piece of paper" and give the first 2 or 20 numbers on the list, in the exact order that they were written down. All of those numbers are individually random, but the list of them is written down once and does not change, and they always start reading from the top.

For the game I'm asking for the first 2 numbers of the sequence. First one will be the winning roll, determining the winner. The second is the prize roll, which will be added a hard 2 to determine the payout of the winner. These numbers are both random and independent of eachother, but permanently "written down" and unique to the day they are rolled.

I'll be putting this explanation in the original post later, if it helps make it clearer. :)

Zhor
Caldari
The Alpha Company
Posted - 2009.08.24 01:32:00 - [14]
 

Thanks for the reply on that. I do believe that your post will make it much clearer overall.

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.24 04:59:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: BigBold on 24/08/2009 05:00:54
Official roll of dice for bets placed from 2009-08-23 00:00 to 2009-08-23 23:59, based on random numbers for 2009-08-24

.-----. .-----.
|* *| | |
Winning roll: | * | Prize roll: | * | + 2
|* *| | |
'-----' '-----'

Winning roll is 5, paying out 3x the bets sent to Craps5. Congratulations!!!


To play and win at the next roll tomorrow, simply send your bets (in 1,000,000-s of ISK) to the respective character(s):
Craps1 to bet on 1, Craps2 to bet on 2, Craps3 to bet on 3, Craps4 to bet on 4, Craps5 to bet on 5, Craps6 to bet on 6.
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All winners paid out. From now on I'm simply going to pay first and post the numbers later. So if your number wins, you should already be paid when this is posted.

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.25 04:55:00 - [16]
 

Official roll of dice for bets placed from 2009-08-24 00:00 to 2009-08-24 23:59, based on random numbers for 2009-08-25

.-----. .-----.
| | | |
Winning roll: | * | Prize roll: | * | + 2
| | | |
'-----' '-----'

Winning roll is 1, paying out 3x the bets sent to Craps1. Congratulations!!!


To play and win at the next roll tomorrow, simply send your bets (in 1,000,000-s of ISK) to the respective character(s):
Craps1 to bet on 1, Craps2 to bet on 2, Craps3 to bet on 3, Craps4 to bet on 4, Craps5 to bet on 5, Craps6 to bet on 6.

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.26 04:37:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: BigBold on 26/08/2009 04:50:49
Official roll of dice for bets placed from 2009-08-25 00:00 to 2009-08-25 23:59, based on random numbers for 2009-08-26

.-----. .-----.
| *| | |
Winning roll: | * | Prize roll: | * | + 2
|* | | |
'-----' '-----'

Winning roll is 3, paying out 3x the bets sent to Craps3. Congratulations!!!


To play and win at the next roll tomorrow, simply send your bets (in 1,000,000-s of ISK) to the respective character(s):
Craps1 to bet on 1, Craps2 to bet on 2, Craps3 to bet on 3, Craps4 to bet on 4, Craps5 to bet on 5, Craps6 to bet on 6.
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Ugh, what's with the crappy prize rolls. Really wish I could help it somehow, to get more people playing, but there simply is no way. Hey, they got to roll higher tomorrow, don't they? Still, we did have a person win 30 million ISK today. :)

Iella Wesirri
Caldari
Dead Rats Tell No Tales
Posted - 2009.08.26 04:58:00 - [18]
 

Well, I'd like to be the first to say he does pay out the winners. I won 30 mill off my winning 3 tonight. Will be playing again for sure. :)

One question though, would it be possible to post a list of winners from each night, at least for a while until it becomes too many to reasonably do that?

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.26 14:12:00 - [19]
 

I'm not yet sure whether to reveal the names of winners. It could bring more players, but some of them might like to stay anonymous, and it's somewhat more work. I'll think about it.

The best way, I'm sure, would be if the winners themselves posted in the thread and bumped it. That's very appreciated. :)

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.27 04:49:00 - [20]
 

Official roll of dice for bets placed from 2009-08-26 00:00 to 2009-08-26 23:59, based on random numbers for 2009-08-27

.-----. .-----.
|* *| | *|
Winning roll: | * | Prize roll: | * | + 2
|* *| |* |
'-----' '-----'

Winning roll is 5, paying out 5x the bets sent to Craps5. Congratulations!!!


To play and win at the next roll tomorrow, simply send your bets (in 1,000,000-s of ISK) to the respective character(s):
Craps1 to bet on 1, Craps2 to bet on 2, Craps3 to bet on 3, Craps4 to bet on 4, Craps5 to bet on 5, Craps6 to bet on 6.
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Two people won 50 million today. Grats!

Valeronx
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Fallen Angels Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.27 05:13:00 - [21]
 

ISK received for lucky number 5. Very Nice !


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Telo Vendo
Posted - 2009.08.27 10:43:00 - [22]
 

Isk received, number 5 was a lucky one :D


BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.28 04:31:00 - [23]
 

Official roll of dice for bets placed from 2009-08-27 00:00 to 2009-08-27 23:59, based on random numbers for 2009-08-28

.-----. .-----.
|* * *| |* *|
Winning roll: | | Prize roll: | | + 2
|* * *| |* *|
'-----' '-----'

Winning roll is 6, paying out 6x the bets sent to Craps6. Congratulations!!!


To play and win at the next roll tomorrow, simply send your bets (in 1,000,000-s of ISK) to the respective character(s):
Craps1 to bet on 1, Craps2 to bet on 2, Craps3 to bet on 3, Craps4 to bet on 4, Craps5 to bet on 5, Craps6 to bet on 6.
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I'll be out of down for the weekend, and there's a chance I won't be able to post and process the bets at the usual time on Sat/Sun. In that case, all bets and winnings made in the meantime will be processed and paid out on Sunday evening the latest. Nothing will be lost!

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.29 03:39:00 - [24]
 

Official roll of dice for bets placed from 2009-08-28 00:00 to 2009-08-28 23:59, based on random numbers for 2009-08-29

.-----. .-----.
| *| |* * *|
Winning roll: | * | Prize roll: | | + 2
|* | |* * *|
'-----' '-----'

Winning roll is 3, paying out 8x the bets sent to Craps3. Congratulations!!!


To play and win at the next roll tomorrow, simply send your bets (in 1,000,000-s of ISK) to the respective character(s):
Craps1 to bet on 1, Craps2 to bet on 2, Craps3 to bet on 3, Craps4 to bet on 4, Craps5 to bet on 5, Craps6 to bet on 6.
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Tomorrow's results will be posted in the evening - sorry for the inconvenience. Remember to bet; without betting you can't win! :)

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.30 16:11:00 - [25]
 

Official roll of dice for bets placed from 2009-08-29 00:00 to 2009-08-29 23:59, based on random numbers for 2009-08-30

.-----. .-----.
| *| | |
Winning roll: | | Prize roll: | * | + 2
|* | | |
'-----' '-----'

Winning roll is 2, paying out 3x the bets sent to Craps2. Congratulations!!!


To play and win at the next roll tomorrow, simply send your bets (in 1,000,000-s of ISK) to the respective character(s):
Craps1 to bet on 1, Craps2 to bet on 2, Craps3 to bet on 3, Craps4 to bet on 4, Craps5 to bet on 5, Craps6 to bet on 6.

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.31 04:42:00 - [26]
 

Official roll of dice for bets placed from 2009-08-30 00:00 to 2009-08-30 23:59, based on random numbers for 2009-08-31

.-----. .-----.
|* * *| | *|
Winning roll: | | Prize roll: | | + 2
|* * *| |* |
'-----' '-----'

Winning roll is 6, paying out 4x the bets sent to Craps6. Congratulations!!!


To play and win at the next roll tomorrow, simply send your bets (in 1,000,000-s of ISK) to the respective character(s):
Craps1 to bet on 1, Craps2 to bet on 2, Craps3 to bet on 3, Craps4 to bet on 4, Craps5 to bet on 5, Craps6 to bet on 6.

Mishi Tr'ei
Posted - 2009.08.31 12:50:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: BigBold

There is no upper limit to bets. I'm fully committed to honor any and all winnings. Having 25+ billion in assets to put on the line for this, I'm quite confident of being able to handle any payout.



So what happens if I'm feeling lucky/stupid, and decide to put 5 bil on 3, and the dice roll is 3 and 6. How are you going to pay me my winnings of 40 bil?

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.08.31 13:30:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: BigBold on 31/08/2009 13:41:36
That's an interesting thought to entertain. :) I suppose at this point I would be forced to pay such sum in parts, over a longer period of time.

In the real world a company in my position would buy insurance against such "worst case" events, but in EVE that's a lot more difficult, particularly with the banking sector suffering a big blow this last week. Eventually I do intend to hedge, insure and distribute the risks to guarantee even greater payouts - as there are people and corporations who might have 40+ bil of at hand - but forging such contracts, just everything else financial in EVE, requires a credit of trust.

For now I suppose it'd easiest to just keep the current 25bil pot size in mind.

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.09.01 04:42:00 - [29]
 

Official roll of dice for bets placed from 2009-08-31 00:00 to 2009-08-31 23:59, based on random numbers for 2009-09-01

.-----. .-----.
| *| | *|
Winning roll: | * | Prize roll: | * | + 2
|* | |* |
'-----' '-----'

Winning roll is 3, paying out 5x the bets sent to Craps3. Congratulations!!!


To play and win at the next roll tomorrow, simply send your bets (in 1,000,000-s of ISK) to the respective character(s):
Craps1 to bet on 1, Craps2 to bet on 2, Craps3 to bet on 3, Craps4 to bet on 4, Craps5 to bet on 5, Craps6 to bet on 6.
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The first individual 100 million was won today :)

BigBold
BigBold's Games
Posted - 2009.09.02 04:57:00 - [30]
 

Official roll of dice for bets placed from 2009-09-01 00:00 to 2009-09-01 23:59, based on random numbers for 2009-09-02

.-----. .-----.
| *| |* *|
Winning roll: | | Prize roll: | | + 2
|* | |* *|
'-----' '-----'

Winning roll is 2, paying out 6x the bets sent to Craps2. Congratulations!!!


To play and win at the next roll tomorrow, simply send your bets (in 1,000,000-s of ISK) to the respective character(s):
Craps1 to bet on 1, Craps2 to bet on 2, Craps3 to bet on 3, Craps4 to bet on 4, Craps5 to bet on 5, Craps6 to bet on 6.
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There was another record single payout to date - 120 million!


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