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Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2009.08.15 13:11:00 - [1]
 

Congratulations, Foiritan.

For the first time in a long time you appear to have done what's right for the Federation.

Where were you when the Federation was betrayed, and the FNS Wandering Saint all but destroyed Ishukone's headquarters, leaving your only hope for negotiation with the State dead and gone?

You were dumbfounded and indecisive, in command of a bickering government you could barely control.

Where were you when the invasion started, when Caldari troops set down on the dirt in Luminaire and began to evict and murder thousands of the people you were sworn in with a Presidential oath to protect and to serve?

Cowering, and turning to your advisers to show you the way because you were too weak to act on your own initiative.

From the second that the hull of a Federation designed starship first slammed into Malkalen V - Moon 1's station, it's been apparent that you failed on every level to retain even the most fundamental control over your own armed forces.

From the second that the first boot of a Caldari stormtrooper set foot on Caldari Prime, the downdraft from Caldari designed landing thrusters throwing up clouds of dust from the soil of Luminaire VII, from Luminaire, the very heart of the Federation, it's been apparent that you've failed to provide even the most fundamental level of protection for the Gallente people. People you were sworn in to protect.

Even before that you failed to act decisively, causing a breach of the Caldari Border Zone by the Federation Navy into Kassigainen, in November 108.

For the first time since your re-election, with the prospect of impeachment looming in the wake of a mess of bad decisions, hideous failures, and territorial losses, you have chosen to do the right thing.

Your stepping down will allow someone with the competence, knowledge, courage and backbone to lead the Federation and it's people through times of conflict to step up and take leadership.

For once Souro, we agree.

You've done the right thing.


Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2009.08.15 17:27:00 - [2]
 

I am hesitant to imagine the next long haired, hand wringing fruitcake they appoint to oversee the process of gradually fracturing the Federation.

Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2009.08.15 17:41:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I am hesitant to imagine the next long haired, hand wringing fruitcake they appoint to oversee the process of gradually fracturing the Federation.


Although you have to admit, it's going to be funny to watch the next circus of an election.


Nur AlHuda
Amarr
Callide Vulpis
Posted - 2009.08.15 18:17:00 - [4]
 

Yeah they will vote about who wil sit where, vote when it will happen, vote about where, vote about list of candidates and insane ammount of votes in progress. Next president can be elected in 109-110.

That he decided to resign was the worst thing actualy what he could do. Gallentes will be as headless chickens in hands of caldari but serves them right.


Pulivin Motic
Caldari
Outer Limits Trading Company
Posted - 2009.08.15 18:27:00 - [5]
 

*takes a puff of his cigar*

I dont really take sides but Foiritan was a good president while he lasted. No doubt his attempts at patching up caldari relations failed pretty bad but hell the thought is what counts.

*takes another puff of his cigar*

Now his handling of the militia wars thats another thing all together.

*clicks off the camera*

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2009.08.15 21:08:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Stitcher on 15/08/2009 21:08:41
Every so often, people succeed in surprising you. I certainly didn't see this coming... I was expecting a flat impeachment and vote of no confidence, like what happened to Karin Midular. not a resignation..

So, that's two democratic leaders in fairly short order forced to stand down. Maybe Foiritain and Midular can write the forewords to each others' memoirs.

Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
Posted - 2009.08.15 21:35:00 - [7]
 

Better to quit while you're still winning, huh? He saved himself the total loss of face when he would have been voted out. Clever.

Caellach Marellus
Gallente
Nephtys Ventures inc
Posted - 2009.08.15 21:40:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I am hesitant to imagine the next long haired, hand wringing fruitcake they appoint to oversee the process of gradually fracturing the Federation.


Although you have to admit, it's going to be funny to watch the next circus of an election.




No doubt we'll be given a blow by blow account through Seraphyn's ra..observations.




That said, he isn't considering running himself I hope.

Sumerio Rayej
Gallente
Intaki Liberation Front
Posted - 2009.08.15 21:51:00 - [9]
 

Now if Heth would just get the heck out, we might actually avoid another full-blown Gallente-Caldari war.

Lord Maximullis
Amarr
Stillwater Corporation
Posted - 2009.08.15 21:57:00 - [10]
 

I do hope, for the sake of the citizens of the federation that the new president will have the strength of will to take control and drive the Caldari forces out of federation space.

Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2009.08.15 22:03:00 - [11]
 

Aren't you just going to ridicule the next president regardless of his identity, kainta?

Caellach Marellus
Gallente
Nephtys Ventures inc
Posted - 2009.08.15 22:05:00 - [12]
 

This is what concerns me, Caldari excessive Military action leads to a failing Gallentean government and an sudden change of leadership. This happened 200 years ago and turned the Gallente Federation away from its ideals and into a vengeful war machine that would have left itself unchecked if it weren't for the travesty of Hueromont.

I fear the Federation has no middle ground between being too afraid to commit and being an uncontrollable state of hatred against it's enemies.

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2009.08.15 22:18:00 - [13]
 

Whenever a Gallentean calls Hueromont a "travesty" or something similar, I swear I grind my molars down by about half a millimeter.

Pulivin Motic
Caldari
Outer Limits Trading Company
Posted - 2009.08.15 22:18:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Caellach Marellus
This is what concerns me, Caldari excessive Military action leads to a failing Gallentean government and an sudden change of leadership. This happened 200 years ago and turned the Gallente Federation away from its ideals and into a vengeful war machine that would have left itself unchecked if it weren't for the travesty of Hueromont.

I fear the Federation has no middle ground between being too afraid to commit and being an uncontrollable state of hatred against it's enemies.


*lights a new cigar*

The federation is a democratic country driven by the people and their media. Or as I like to call it the mob mentality, if the federation doesn't learn to control its people and media they will face a bloody collapse.

*takes a puff of his cigar*

The Caldari know how to control their countries mob mentality, thats why we didn't rush into a premature and costly war after gaining independence.

*savors the taste of his cigar before continuing*

In my opinion we will see the Gallente people elect a far right wing government, who will as the people want attempt to push back the Caldari. Once this happens there will be no turning back and Heth will most likely declare full blown war and succsessfully conquer the entirety of Gallente space.

*takes another puff of his cigar*

but hell im just a cynical opportunist and a full blown war would really help me make some side cash in the munitions business.

William Ytiri
Caldari
Posted - 2009.08.15 22:51:00 - [15]
 


It is ironic that Foiritan has to resign beause of pressure from Corporate leaders like Jacus Roden.

One might wonder if Jacky (Roden) is up for the next race towards becoming the next President or stays sensible and keeps his seat of power right behind the elected strawman, after all, Gallente businessmen do not differ much from us Caldari. Only they have a democtratic farce to hide behind and fool the people to think they have control. It takes away the Corporate responsibility to take care of their employees/consumers and lays it down neatly in the 'trusted' hands of the "Government".

I think a few Caldari corporate leaders are now warned that Gallente Corporate Leaders are pretty '****ed off' by a indecisive Federal Government loosing them billions of ISK and Heth auctioning away "their" opportunities for much needed expansions to Caldari competitors. No better time than to remove their faltering strawmen to install the next.

I love powerstruggles.

Sahaquiel Faust
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2009.08.15 23:27:00 - [16]
 

I'm inclined to agree with Mr. Verone on this.
Former President Foiritan has made the right move by resigning. Hopefully the election will see some fresh faces though my cynicism tells me it will probably not bring much of anything we haven't seen before.

Vendrin
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2009.08.16 00:14:00 - [17]
 

The boss is right of course, but you have to give it to Foritan, he certainly knows how to give a speech. The man has taken a giant dump on the Federation and if he plays it right, will probably walk away smelling like daisies.

Goshien Aiel
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.08.16 04:28:00 - [18]
 

Poor Foiritan, turned into a laughing stock. I doubt any replacement has a chance in hell of turning it around though.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2009.08.16 04:34:00 - [19]
 

This whole thing is a stage show. He went down too easy, after that nationalization of the arms producers stunt.

Something dark is planned, I can sense this. There is little motivation to defend the Federation, now that it's not what it sells itself on. No, this "leadership" cannot motivate people to put their lives on the line to protect pirate infested systems long forsaken by the Federation anyway.


But a show like this, perhaps the plan on something else, some "inspiring leadership" that makes people want to fight for nothing, but with the trapping of 'honor' and 'glory' and all that other worldly mind trinket bonanza garbage.

Yes, having Gallente running about dying for "a cause greater than themselves" is surely victory for the Caldari, for they Gallente would have become just like the Caldari.

Or even more so.

Leopold Caine
Amarr
Stillwater Corporation
Posted - 2009.08.16 04:40:00 - [20]
 

I think the problem is in the Gallente Federation itself, believing democracy to be an infallible political system, which causes incompetent people like Foiritan to give a false impression of security and be elected onto a position he doesn't deserve.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2009.08.16 05:24:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Leopold Caine
I think the problem is in the Gallente Federation itself, believing democracy to be an infallible political system, which causes incompetent people like Foiritan to give a false impression of security and be elected onto a position he doesn't deserve.




That is no better really, than following royalty.

Whether it's for God or for the state as a god, people will kill.

We can choose not to.

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2009.08.16 07:49:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Originally by: Leopold Caine
I think the problem is in the Gallente Federation itself, believing democracy to be an infallible political system, which causes incompetent people like Foiritan to give a false impression of security and be elected onto a position he doesn't deserve.




That is no better really, than following royalty.

Whether it's for God or for the state as a god, people will kill.

We can choose not to.


There's a certain irony to be found in hearing a capsuleer saying that.

EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
Narwhals Ate My Duck
Posted - 2009.08.16 08:05:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Caellach Marellus
This is what concerns me, Caldari excessive Military action leads to a failing Gallentean government and an sudden change of leadership. This happened 200 years ago and turned the Gallente Federation away from its ideals and into a vengeful war machine that would have left itself unchecked if it weren't for the travesty of Hueromont.

I fear the Federation has no middle ground between being too afraid to commit and being an uncontrollable state of hatred against it's enemies.


Some of us look forward to this! Sometimes you have to fight for your freedoms.

Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
Posted - 2009.08.16 08:21:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Sumerio Rayej
Now if Heth would just get the heck out, we might actually avoid another full-blown Gallente-Caldari war.

I am convinced that if the Gallente had actually fought against the Caldari and conquered all their systems, it would've been Heth that was the one to resign at this point.

Kimochi Rendar
Veto.
Posted - 2009.08.16 12:50:00 - [25]
 

This is the second time Foiritan has surprised me with his actions... The first time was when he executed Anvent Eturrer.

But like the first time, I get the distinct impression that others have subtly informed him that it's now time to quit while he's ahead. Foiritan never really struck me as having the balls to do anything like this of his own accord.

Robert Kauliford
Kauliford Trading
Posted - 2009.08.16 20:34:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Sumerio Rayej
Now if Heth would just get the heck out, we might actually avoid another full-blown Gallente-Caldari war.

I am convinced that if the Gallente had actually fought against the Caldari and conquered all their systems, it would've been Heth that was the one to resign at this point.


Uhm so your saying that if Foiritan had been as brilliant and as ruthless as Heth and not the other way round then it would be Heth who was in trouble? Hmm guess I have to agree with you there.

Now I'm no supporter of the federation, but to be fair to Foiritan when he was elected the fed was going through a period of unprecedented prosperity and his mandate was mainly to see it through his term in office without a recession. In all honesty did anyone see even the hint of this war on the horizon 2 years ago? I think history will judge him as a mediocre president who found himself in extraordinary times and ultimately failed.

Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2009.08.17 23:01:00 - [27]
 

Good riddance I say. Foiritan made a mockery of basic Gallentean values and the Black Eagles were an invention of the Caldari. As long as that bigot Mentas doesn't run, this Federation might even benefit from him leaving.

Perhaps with a new guy in charge we might actually start fighting back, starting with liberating Intaki Prime from the fascist hordes.

Maybe now the road is open to return to the Federation of old: free, powerful, and dynamic!

Yilan Cheran
Posted - 2009.08.18 07:29:00 - [28]
 

And the successor will be... Jacus Roden, I suppose? Woop-tee-do, another Intaki. Mark me, the smiley-faces will keep shoving jobs to each other, like they have done ever since some naive fools thought it a funny idea to lead them out of that primitive stink-hole of theirs. And now they are all over us, like ticks on a warm skin!

How much longer will it take for real Gallente to realize that, perhaps, maybe, it might possibly a feasible notion to actually take notice of their own, Gallente, interest again and do something about the REAL problem of the Federation?

Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2009.08.18 19:45:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Bartholomeus Crane on 18/08/2009 19:57:14
As a student of Gallente politics, not to mention an expat Intake, with a fair share of political connections, I fail to see how Roden stands a realistic chance in the coming presidential election. He must know this, which means something else all together must be going on. Old Jacky Roden is just to wily to do something like this willy-nilly.

The legends about his past, his history with the shady side of business, and his close connections to the military/Vultures means there will be so many skeletons in his closet that Scope will have a field day selling Neocom broadcasts.

Not to mention that he hasn't been seen in public for years. He has no real weight to throw around in either the Senate or the Praesidium. He may have some of the Vultures on his hand, but Chemal Tech was fostered during Foiritan's reign, and they own 35% of CreoDron, and they are partners with Duvolle as well. FedMart, Inner Zone, and Poteque don't like Roden either. And Poteque has a minor share in the Scope, so he'll have an uphill battle PR-wise. And nothing is as influential to a presidential race as the Scope.

So the Vultures are probably split on Roden. Let's face it, he always had a knack for rubbing competitors the wrong way, stealing all their best talent away like he did. He even had to hand off his reign of Roden Shipyards to his granddaughter for fear of prosecution. Not to mention the rumours of his Syndicate connections no one wants to discuss. Too much dirt.

He maybe Intaki, but even the financial power of Jacky Roden can't buy him a clean history. Not in this political climate. This move is clearly a cover to clear the road for another hard-nosed backbenching senator with close but covert connections to Jacky and further Vulture backing.

That will be the man he really wants to be in that office. He, together with the rest of the Vulture oligarchy. And that guy won't show his face until he got his back cleared with a challenger in sight. Then Roden can step aside in a patriotic gesture to put in place the man he always wanted to be there anyway, cleaning his public record up in the meantime. That way the military industrial complex and the Vultures that go along with it, have their man, and Roden will have taken his premeditated fall to make up and to unite them all under one banner.

It's an old play, and very effective when stage managed well (the recluse reluctantly picking up the gauntlet ending with a patriotic endorsement for the good of the Federation?), but you don't have to study politics at Caille to recognise it. Anyone remember Eman Autrech dropping out of the previous race? Basically handed Foiritan the presidency. Just the edge he needed to beat Mentas. I'm sure Souro made it worth his while. I heard he got a nice cushy job at Chemal eventually. It's been a while since I heard that though ...

When it comes down to it, this is probably a business deal to old Jacky Roden, and you don't need to hear it from an Idama to believe it.

Personally I was expecting Senator Julian Hevard to step forward. Especially after the momentum he gained while he stood up against Mentas. But with him backing down so suddenly, I wonder if Mentas hasn't found something to keep him down.

But I tell you, it's the third candidate to step up you'll need to watch. Right now, everyone is still on the ropes, looking for a good angle to capture the public imagination. It's not the hawks, doves, or even vultures that will be the focal point of this election, it's the Ostriches and to a lesser extend a portion of the Magpies that count now. If these get rolling, this Federation is going to steamroller so hard, the Caldari won't know what hit them. And it's not going to be pretty either ...

Ohh, and it's not going to be an Intaki either. This is not the time for calm and thoughtful reflection. I won't be surprised if a Mannar stood up, but a Gallente is more probable. He'll need the mass appeal

Dante Vailatti
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
Posted - 2009.08.19 10:36:00 - [30]
 

I Honestly don't thing Rodan is a good choice. I think we need a candidate who has no ties to the whole mess.

Going back to Verone's original enrty I see a man who has totally lost faith in his government. It's a stance I'd expect to see against Caldari facism or the Amarr theocracy, not my government.

Not my government. That's a good tag line for our future leaders. We need to build an excecutive branch that works WITH the other two, not one that refuses to listen to the voice of the people.

We need a government that people like Verone and me can be proud of. Because at the end of the day, we cannot claim to have the high moral ground against the Caldari or Amarr way if we're as deeply steeped in corruption as they are.

And again, non-Gallente opinions on the Gallente elections are meddling at best, alien propoganda, at worst.


D.




 

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