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Resdayn
Amarr
Genos Occidere
Posted - 2009.08.28 22:35:00 - [91]
 

Navy mapc costs 5-4m, with awu 5 and weapon rigging 4 you can fit my fit with this and have 2 damage rigs

worth it imo

Wellbing
Posted - 2009.08.30 16:16:00 - [92]
 

I eat Taranis for breakfast in my Harpy 8)


Even so, Taranis is a great ship .

Mickey Simon
Genos Occidere
Posted - 2009.08.30 23:03:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: ropnes
Just saying you can replace the neutrons in the cheap fit, keep the price almost the same and get some extra dps

You lose range though, so your effective DPS isn't as good in some cases, and it's not like you really need the extra tracking on the ranis.

Morel Nova
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.08.31 09:15:00 - [94]
 

Edited by: Morel Nova on 31/08/2009 09:19:31
Originally by: Wellbing
I eat Taranis for breakfast in my Harpy 8)


Even so, Taranis is a great ship .


most assault frigs do (except maybe vengeance :P), but only if you can catch it, which should be tricky. It holds true for AB fits anyway, I'v beated mwd jaguars, but its pretty close.

Trade Brah
Posted - 2009.09.04 22:41:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Hidden Snake
sorry to say that but that about rapiers and huggins is bulls.@.t .. any semi competent FW recon pilot will smash u in no time ... you will also die in case you will engage AC thrasher or properly fited wolf ... ranises are nice, however not win button ship


cool
story
bro

btw minnie assault frigates don't inherit the rifter's tracking bonus, so they will miss you quite a bit when you're in a 500m orbit. the more you know.

Suas
Perkone
Posted - 2009.09.06 12:54:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Trade Brah
Originally by: Hidden Snake
sorry to say that but that about rapiers and huggins is bulls.@.t .. any semi competent FW recon pilot will smash u in no time ... you will also die in case you will engage AC thrasher or properly fited wolf ... ranises are nice, however not win button ship


cool
story
bro

btw minnie assault frigates don't inherit the rifter's tracking bonus, so they will miss you quite a bit when you're in a 500m orbit. the more you know.


To be fair, he did say competent pilots. I don't think IRON pilots (and one that fits cloaks to Vagas at that) and Jaguars with plates or ODs fall under that category. ;)

He's still an idiot, don't worry - jus' sayin'.

Polkageist
Minmatar
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2009.09.06 13:06:00 - [97]
 

/me wanna fly Shocked

Reikso Feesh
Posted - 2009.09.13 02:34:00 - [98]
 

The 'expensive fit' will also work if you use AWU 4 and Hybrid Rigging 5 - AWU 5 is better in the long run, but it takes a lot less time to train Hybrid Rigs 5 (by about 10 days!). Also, if you fly Gallente a lot, that rigging skill will come in handy eventually...

Great video! Very Happy

Dasalt Istgut
Posted - 2009.09.13 14:26:00 - [99]
 

Edited by: Dasalt Istgut on 13/09/2009 14:31:08
Edited by: Dasalt Istgut on 13/09/2009 14:26:58
In the brave new world of ridiculously cheap frigate rigs, there is one incursus to raype all blaster-ranis's. Just hit "keep at 7km" overload them railguns and let the fun begin.

[Incursus, Blasteranis Killer]
F85 Peripheral Damage System I
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

1MN MicroWarpdrive I
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Ancillary Current Router I
Ancillary Current Router I
Ancillary Current Router I


Hobgoblin II x1

And edited yet again to state that, imho, while the blaster-taranis is awesome, the incursus is also incredibly good without the "holy **** its a ranis, gtfo" reaction that the Taranis has. Use that to your advantage.

Raimo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.09.13 18:20:00 - [100]
 

Edited by: Raimo on 13/09/2009 18:20:34
Originally by: Dasalt Istgut
Edited by: Dasalt Istgut on 13/09/2009 14:31:08
Edited by: Dasalt Istgut on 13/09/2009 14:26:58
In the brave new world of ridiculously cheap frigate rigs, there is one incursus to raype all blaster-ranis's. Just hit "keep at 7km" overload them railguns and let the fun begin.




Nice idea, but my unrigged Ranis fit does 16 DPS more than that at 7km, my rigged one(the one I use normally) tops it by 33 DPS... While having close to the same EHP so... Close call as the Incursus can apply some damage on approach but I will still bet on the Ranis, at least with rigs.

Vidi Angelus
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.09.14 13:57:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Wellbing
I eat Taranis for breakfast in my Harpy 8)


Even so, Taranis is a great ship .


Ah yeah with the rigs patch the Harpy is pretty evil

[Harpy, 75mm]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

1MN MicroWarpdrive II
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler II
Medium Shield Extender II

75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Ancillary Current Router II
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

Takes a Ranis over three quarters of a min to take out the tank on this, while the DPS isn't astounding, its more than enough to kill any intie. If they orbit at more than web/scram range, you can switch to Iridium and still retain enough gank/tank ratio to force them off ^^




MadAtTheWorld
Posted - 2009.09.14 22:43:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Vidi Angelus
Originally by: Wellbing
I eat Taranis for breakfast in my Harpy 8)


Even so, Taranis is a great ship .


Ah yeah with the rigs patch the Harpy is pretty evil

[Harpy, 75mm]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

1MN MicroWarpdrive II
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler II
Medium Shield Extender II

75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Ancillary Current Router II
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

Takes a Ranis over three quarters of a min to take out the tank on this, while the DPS isn't astounding, its more than enough to kill any intie. If they orbit at more than web/scram range, you can switch to Iridium and still retain enough gank/tank ratio to force them off ^^






that fit fails but do you honestly think you are special cause you beat an inty in an af?

Shander Maxum
Shander Maxum Universal Ltd.
Posted - 2009.09.17 20:32:00 - [103]
 

Thanks for the guide and I enjoyed the movie ! majorly fun and helpful!

I don't have nearly the ~human~ game skills to touch what you do nor the sp skills like thermo dynamics so I'm going to be half as effective I guess...hopefully I can still find a use to flying the ship.

I got all excited about getting one of these when I read about it on the BC loadout. a few weeks ago. I decided to invest the sp in evasive maneuvering 5 before getting my HAC or other stuff.

I re-read the thread after equipping my brand new Taranis last night, to refresh myself on what I should be looking to take out in low sec. Now I'm not sure what they should be. Well, I guess I shouldn't have expected it to be that easy to magically get lots of new things I could solo.

How would I fly this fit as part of a 3 person gang taking on say a drake and some cruiser or something? (that would be superior than using a thorax to tackle & dps ?)

Another noob question, but if I'm getting in a multi ship sort of confrontation, if I'm speed tanking my primary target orbiting at 500-1000 would that speed tank be effective against the other enemies nearby that I wasn't orbiting?

I'd love any other ideas on how to get my feet wet looking for solo pvp opportunities, more about how or where I'd find good targets for this ship, (or an ishkur, thorax, or incursus if that has anything going for it beyond being cheaper)

Oh, one more thing for other low sp players reading this:

You mentioned that it fits with awu 3 . That works for the power supply but CPU will also be an issue for lower sp players just getting into inties. To fit the CPU for the mods from what I can figure out a player needs regular Weapons Upgrades to level 5 . (swapping one neutron for an ion makes it work though) Weapons Upgrades 4 comes .1 cpu short!

Thanks again for the guide!



Meckle Moiyal
Posted - 2009.09.17 23:07:00 - [104]
 

AWU requires Weapon Upgrades V...

Milo Melano
Posted - 2009.09.18 01:26:00 - [105]
 

Edited by: Milo Melano on 18/09/2009 01:27:32
delete

Spectre3353
Gallente
Heavy Risk...
Posted - 2009.09.22 14:31:00 - [106]
 

This thread must live on!

Wensley
Minmatar
Matari Exodus
Posted - 2009.09.23 11:43:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Dasalt Istgut
Edited by: Dasalt Istgut on 13/09/2009 14:31:08
Edited by: Dasalt Istgut on 13/09/2009 14:26:58
In the brave new world of ridiculously cheap frigate rigs, there is one incursus to raype all blaster-ranis's. Just hit "keep at 7km" overload them railguns and let the fun begin.

[Incursus, Blasteranis Killer]
F85 Peripheral Damage System I
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

1MN MicroWarpdrive I
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Ancillary Current Router I
Ancillary Current Router I
Ancillary Current Router I


Hobgoblin II x1

And edited yet again to state that, imho, while the blaster-taranis is awesome, the incursus is also incredibly good without the "holy **** its a ranis, gtfo" reaction that the Taranis has. Use that to your advantage.



How exactly does that keep a dual-prop 'Ranis at range?

Thenoran
Caldari
Tranquility Industries
Posted - 2009.09.23 13:15:00 - [108]
 

Edited by: Thenoran on 23/09/2009 13:18:30
Seriously people, what's up with all the Micro Auxiliary Power Core fits?
You don't need one!

[Taranis, Rawr]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters
1MN Afterburner II
Warp Scrambler II

Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Auto Targeting System I / OFFLINE (for overheating, also gets you +2 targets to lock)

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I

Hobgoblin II x2

240 DPS and the best tracking the world.
Also, you get to fit 200 charges in each gun so you probably won't have to reload in a fight.

Alternative Character
Posted - 2009.09.23 13:23:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Resdayn
Originally by: JeremyCricket
Yet more proof that Taranii are the new FOTM

BAE Taranis




Taranis has allways been the fotm of interceptors


You obviously never flew back when crows could dual MWD + use cruise missiles.. which at the time didn't suffer from sig radius issues. They could pop most things very easily and were probably the most powerful interceptors ever fielded.

Spectre3353
Gallente
Heavy Risk...
Posted - 2009.09.24 14:25:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Thenoran
Edited by: Thenoran on 23/09/2009 13:18:30
Seriously people, what's up with all the Micro Auxiliary Power Core fits?
You don't need one!

[Taranis, Rawr]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters
1MN Afterburner II
Warp Scrambler II

Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Auto Targeting System I / OFFLINE (for overheating, also gets you +2 targets to lock)

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I

Hobgoblin II x2

240 DPS and the best tracking the world.
Also, you get to fit 200 charges in each gun so you probably won't have to reload in a fight.


Seriously, do you have any idea how bad small electron blasters are on a ship with no optimal bonus? Your optimal is literally 700-800m with antimatter loaded which is just ****ing atrocious. You will never be able to keep within your optimal for most of a fight which means your DPS will actually NOT be 240 DPS for most of the engagement. If you can't fit ions or neutrons, I would not even bother flying that ship.

beppe1985
Steady Mobbin
Posted - 2009.09.27 14:37:00 - [111]
 

I reckon the taranis, or any inty would have dramas taking down a sentinel, especialy if its got a rsd with a targeting rang script fitted

Savlena Torilles
Posted - 2009.09.27 14:48:00 - [112]
 

How do one deal with the scramble/disruptor bonus range on a, lets say, stiletto? Once you'r ranis is scrambled and orbited at 13-15km not ever your AB will save you, how do I counter this?

Gibbo3771
Posted - 2009.09.27 15:55:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Savlena Torilles
How do one deal with the scramble/disruptor bonus range on a, lets say, stiletto? Once you'r ranis is scrambled and orbited at 13-15km not ever your AB will save you, how do I counter this?


learn to orbit break with overheating ab and overheating scram, hes orbitin at like 13km, his speed is gonna be ****e

Larshus Magrus
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
Posted - 2009.09.28 20:36:00 - [114]
 

Great thread and great videos.

Quick question though. What exactly are the implants you are using and are you popping any boosters when in the taranis? I see the boosters in the shield tanking BS's but what about the ranis?

fmercury
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.10.02 02:07:00 - [115]
 

if you're going to pop anything the sig radius ones would probably do pretty nicely. i'm not sure the penalties make it worth it though.


Ian Morbius
Gallente
Posted - 2009.10.04 05:50:00 - [116]
 

Great guide on the Taranis. Thanks for the posting it.

steveid
Viziam
Posted - 2009.10.05 14:42:00 - [117]
 

Originally by: Gibbo3771
Originally by: Savlena Torilles
How do one deal with the scramble/disruptor bonus range on a, lets say, stiletto? Once you'r ranis is scrambled and orbited at 13-15km not ever your AB will save you, how do I counter this?


learn to orbit break with overheating ab and overheating scram, hes orbitin at like 13km, his speed is gonna be ****e


If he's got you at that range he'll be keeping range rather than orbiting. In this case you de-engage wait out his loldps with your :realmenhulltank: and jump. This ofc is if you have yet to discover the joys of ecm drones on a ranis.

I've also tried:

[Taranis, new rig 1]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Ion Blaster II, Null S
Light Ion Blaster II, Null S
Light Ion Blaster II, Null S
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin II x2

with some success.

steveid
Viziam
Posted - 2009.10.05 14:50:00 - [118]
 

Also if your primarily ceptor dogfighting are you not better going web / scram / mwd rather than ab / mwd / scram? I understand the point in using ab in other situation but not in dogfights.

[Taranis, Ion]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Ion Blaster II, Null S
Light Ion Blaster II, Null S
Light Ion Blaster II, Null S
[empty high slot]

Hybrid Locus Coordinator I
Hybrid Locus Coordinator I


Hobgoblin II x2

would give you better damage with a larger optimal but .6 less in the falloff. Ofc you have better tracking due to smaller guns and the webbing. Even in the event you meet a player with an ab fitted if you web him down 60% in most cases you should still be able to dictate range.

Raimo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.10.06 07:31:00 - [119]
 

TBH the dual prop fit is much better than either of the fits posted above, even for dogfighting just beacause of the flexibility. (CCC's, really? Shocked )

Count MonteCarlo
Genos Occidere
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.10.06 08:53:00 - [120]
 

The MWD + AB fit is the one that dictate ranges against Web fits, it goes 60-70ms faster


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