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Dasfry
Caldari
Demio's Corporation
United Stellar Alliance
Posted - 2009.09.23 18:06:00 - [61]
 

Edited by: Dasfry on 23/09/2009 18:07:29
I support the idea of fuel, for cloaking.

You could make it something small.
I does not have to take up a lot of space m3.

It also adds a bit of tactics and fore thought requirement.

Do I have enough cloak-fuel to scout all the systems on my list?
Where would be my nearest refueling stop, in order to continue my objective?

Baaldor
Black Sail Anarchists
Yarr Collective
Posted - 2009.09.23 18:18:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Dasfry
Edited by: Dasfry on 23/09/2009 18:07:29

It also adds a bit of tactics and fore thought requirement.


Oh like undock, warp to belt, go afk, shoot rat, mine rock?

Saerynn
Lost Intentions
Posted - 2009.09.23 20:36:00 - [63]
 

Not supported.

darius mclever
Posted - 2009.09.23 20:40:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Dasfry
Edited by: Dasfry on 23/09/2009 18:07:29
I support the idea of fuel, for cloaking.

You could make it something small.
I does not have to take up a lot of space m3.

It also adds a bit of tactics and fore thought requirement.

Do I have enough cloak-fuel to scout all the systems on my list?
Where would be my nearest refueling stop, in order to continue my objective?


CVA pet detected!

Hun Jakuza
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming
Posted - 2009.09.24 06:25:00 - [65]
 

Edited by: Hun Jakuza on 24/09/2009 06:26:38
Originally by: Larkonis Trassler
Originally by: Sir Muffoon
Supporting, it's too easy to just cloak in a system and be able to give intel with no risk at all.


If he's giving intel then he's not AFK.


But they are in local, when he not playing. So, he is in safe because noone can catch him. Easy for cloaking when, no one can catch him. They just reserve the server capacity, when they not playing.
Yes, not need to make against afk cloakers, if the cloaked ship catchable. But now, everyone use the cloak on ceptor to capital.
This is the second problem. Would be logical, if just the cloak ships (recon,covops,sb,black ops) can just use it them.
I knows the 0.0 players always cry for some eploits and easy lurking, but this is b*llsh*t. We need back the old times when those players who was AFK minimum 30 minutes the server kicked them. Play or go out, don't waste the costly server times.

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2009.09.24 06:47:00 - [66]
 

Edited by: Hirana Yoshida on 24/09/2009 06:53:02
Originally by: darius mclever
[CVA pet detected!

Wrong forum, dear. I think you wanted COAD one tick up.

There is no need to introduce fuel for cloaks when we already have the capacitor to build on.

Make cloaks draw a constant amount while operating with CovOps drawing considerably less to allow for extended cloaked operations.
Combine it with capacitors not recharging while cloaked (including gate cloak) and people have to decloak once in a while to recharge.
No more cloaked Ravens, Capitals, AFK'ers .. with new probes the small window is more than adequate for a hit provided you have a general location of victim/client/hostile.

Removing local wouldn't make sense as CCP has used the gates internal communications as a reason for local in their WH fiction .. where gates exists, local exists.
Would be nice if null-sec was delayed though. A three to four minute delay applicable to all parties with a sovereignty holder able to online a module to cut it in half for "his side" .. not safe, but safer.

Aniel Zaar
Gallente
BIG
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2009.09.24 07:21:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Make cloaks draw a constant amount while operating with CovOps drawing considerably less to allow for extended cloaked operations.
Combine it with capacitors not recharging while cloaked (including gate cloak) and people have to decloak once in a while to recharge.


To be honest, I like the complete immunity I get with on a CovertOps frigate in hostile space. I haven't seen a single good argument so far as to why that should change.

Br41n
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2009.09.24 08:19:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Ephemeron
I would support this idea if local channel was also removed

no more 23/7 intel


This and also remove local in highsec.

Uzuki Shootmenow
Caldari
Posted - 2009.09.24 09:32:00 - [69]
 

not supported. deal with cloakers. grow some balls.

Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
Posted - 2009.09.24 12:02:00 - [70]
 

Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 24/09/2009 12:03:38
Originally by: Uzuki Shootmenow
not supported. deal with cloakers. grow some balls.


Cloakers have balls ?
Everyone knows, the story is not the AFK cloak and everyone know the 0.0 players why dont wanna changes.
Who using them ? Pilots who using cloak for belt ratting, for anomaly, for plexing in 0.0. Cloak on Ishtar,Cloak on ceptor,cloak on everything lol in 0.0.
Oh yes. They using cloak and they cry a river against CCP and players who want to change the cloak MWD tricks, AFK cloak, cloak on not cloak user ship rules. Better if you don't speak from balls and don't speak the other 0.0 coward lurker.
This cloak rules need to change. Want to use cloak ? Do it! If you sit in covops or recon, but forget it, if you fly with a HAC.

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.09.24 16:50:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: Anah Karah

Ummm you do know that the stilleto is the only inty with 4 mids that could actually pull this off.
Great to see we have CSM members intersted in 'balance' and not just trolling.....did i mention that i might have been just slightly sarcastic when i just said that? no? oh well...next time i'll make myself more clear


There are lowslot ECCM modules too.

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Light Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S
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Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Rocket

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
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Same results on an Ares.

[Malediction, Sup]
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Overdrive Injector System II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
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Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Rocket
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP S

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
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Same results on a Malediction.



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