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Subrahmaya Chandrasekhar
Amarr
J0urneys End
Posted - 2009.08.08 23:52:00 - [1]
 

In a nutshell:
6.85 standing with an NPC corp chgs to 6.88 after the mission - with Eve saying the % chg (in 'show transactions') is +1.0836

The calculation I did shows the percent change from 6.85 to 6.88 is actually closer to 0.4379562%.

So I'm asking myself if this is another unpublished bug I've found, or if I just don't fully understand the standings mechanic. At the same time I'm hoping I haven't made some outrageous error in calculation or reasoning ;)

I'm at social level 5 (this may or may not be connected - I don't see a clear relationship so it's just fyi at this point) and connections level 3 (shouldn't be related, but I can't be 110% certain).

Notes: I have tracked this anomaly through 2 missions at level 2, but I believe it may be happening globally, and was wondering if anyone else can verify my findings, i.e. ascertain that the percentages or values are off - I don't know if the % is wrong and I'm getting the correct standings increase, or the % is correct and I'm not getting the full and correct standings increase.

Thanks

Shamhat Arete
Aideron Robotics
Posted - 2009.08.09 01:03:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Shamhat Arete on 09/08/2009 01:03:36
Standings mechanics work a little differently than you might expect.

I found the following guide useful: http://www.newedenlibrary.net/eon/standings.shtml

In brief, an "increase of 1.0836%" actually means a reduction in the difference between your base standing (before Connections) and +10 of 1.0836% -- in other words, you move 1.0836% of the way towards +10, the limit. The closer you get to the limit, the slower your absolute standing will rise. If we ignore the effect of Connections for now, we can compute (10 - 6.85) * (100% - 1.0836%) ~= (10 - 6.88), showing that everything is as expected.

The non-linear relationship between standings gains and standings losses has fascinating implications for strategies for standings optimization.

Subrahmaya Chandrasekhar
Amarr
J0urneys End
Posted - 2009.08.09 01:14:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Shamhat Arete
Edited by: Shamhat Arete on 09/08/2009 01:03:36
Standings mechanics work a little differently than you might expect.




Someone actually replied! ...and what a reply, thanks so much, this is incredible detail, and as you say, the implications are fascinating. I daresay I will be contemplating this information until osmosis kicks in!

Jim Nakamura
Posted - 2009.08.09 07:44:00 - [4]
 

So, if it's a percentage increase each time, does it evetually reach the point where your displayed standing gets rounded up to 10.0? Or will you always be ever so slightly short of getting a perfect standing?

Estel Arador
Posted - 2009.08.09 09:54:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Jim Nakamura
So, if it's a percentage increase each time, does it evetually reach the point where your displayed standing gets rounded up to 10.0? Or will you always be ever so slightly short of getting a perfect standing?


It does eventually round up to 10.0 yes. That takes a long time though.


 

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