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Evil Timmy
Posted - 2004.10.07 12:49:00 - [31]
 

Personally, I find the Character Manager (and by extension, the character sheet) to be very useful. My university work is done almost exclusively by computer, so I'm at my desk most of the day. A popup a few minutes before a skill is going to finish gives me time to finish off what I'm working on, fire up EVE, and set my skills. With a queue set up, I know what I should train next, and how long that'd take, and it'll pop up another message when that's done. Otherwise, I'd have to be constantly setting and re-setting alarms, and updating a list of what I've trained and what I need to train. It just makes things simpler.

One solution would be a separate server hosting the XML data, and users would have to choose to enable it in their profile @ MyEve. The main server would then check to see if any skill training info has changed on, say, an hourly basis, and if it has, it'd export the data to the XML server. Clients could first check the timestamp on the file to see if they need to bother downloading it, to avoid excess pointless traffic, and they'd have to check at maximum once per hour, which would lighten the load significantly. It would require a bit of work for both the EVE web team and the programmers of the various clients, but it's a workable solution for both sides.

Hornymatt
Posted - 2004.10.07 13:04:00 - [32]
 

No change in forum speed (or lack thereof) for me Sad

Wizardpete Draconis
Last Rites Corp
Posted - 2004.10.07 13:14:00 - [33]
 

Change is real big here. Normally it would take me a minute to load a single page!! Now its there in two seconds. Laughing

Although I like the charcter sheet and use it a lot, its more a point of reference I can also check from work. I rather have the forums working normally though than have the character sheet available.

CmdoColin
Posted - 2004.10.07 13:25:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Meehan
You're right, I will be telling you you need a diary. But you seem sound and aware about it so I won't be yelling at ya Wink


Ahhhhhhh!

The nasty man is scaring me! I want my mummy!

Thraxll
Minmatar
D'Ahrk Prophesy
Posted - 2004.10.07 13:37:00 - [35]
 

I went to Wal Mart and bought a lovely digital timer for the low-low price(tm) of $3.99. It has two (count em, TWO!) timers AND a clock! Haven't missed a skill since Wink




Harriet99
Posted - 2004.10.08 08:35:00 - [36]
 

Hmmm, haven't noticed any imporvement in loading speed of Eve-online forum pages

Mojo JoJo
Minmatar
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2004.10.08 09:05:00 - [37]
 

i understand why it was disabeled but i still used it about 3 time a day for each account

no i have to log in each account about 3 times a day , takes longer

so please find a way to bring it back soonish

Jazzatola
Gallente Research Institute
Posted - 2004.10.08 12:21:00 - [38]
 

Its not just about knowing when your current skill will finish training, the ECM has way more functionality than that. Here's my use case:

Like many, I have a job and a personal life and prefer to schedule Eve skills around them rather than the other way around. I try to plan my training such that skills finish at a time when I can guarantee I'm going to be at home and online. ECM provides the ability to sort skills by training times and to then juggle the skills into an order that suits me. Sure, this can be done with a pen and paper but then so can all the calculations a computer does. That's why computers are beneficial - they handle boring repetitive computations. Should I throw mine away and start using a Turing machine?

To sum up, I'm greedy. I want slick speedy forums *and* as many hooks into game data as CCP can provide.

MaiLina KaTar
Posted - 2004.10.08 12:46:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: "CmdoColin"
Hence - no I don't need to refresh it 6 or 7 times a second - but having visablity a couple of times a week is really useful. Especially if I fire up the game I get cuddly girlie turning into hell hath no fury like a woman seeing her man on the pc yet again. And with that gentleman goodnight.


Well you look at the charsheet a few times a week as you stated. I'm looking at these forums at least 5 times a day and whenever I'm playing the game. So while you have to deal with a missing charsheet a few times a week at best I'd have to deal with forumpages taking half a minute to load 5 to 6 times a day at least.
I think that's a little unfair, considering all the alternatives you have while I don't have any. There is only one eve-online.com forum but there are millions of clocks in this world you could use just as good to time your skilltrains.

Originally by: "Jazzatola"
Like many, I have a job and a personal life and prefer to schedule Eve skills around them rather than the other way around. I try to plan my training such that skills finish at a time when I can guarantee I'm going to be at home and online...


That's good, but don't you think that in some cases you can prove to be a considerate person by taking a step back so other's can enjoy what they like?
If the whole situation would be the other way around - with the forums crippling the performance of the entire eve-online.com website and the charsheet barely using any resources at all - I'd be happy to waive the privilege of using the forums so that other's can use the charsheet without taking more than a minute for it to load. It would suck for me because I really like browsing the forums and discussing with people to improve my english and get to know people I normally would never talk to, but I'd be fine with it, knowing that it allows others to be happy with whatever they like to use on the site.

Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to offend or mark you guys as reckless or something, but I think it's a bit ruthless to demand something that basically prevents other people from doing what they want to do in a place where thousands of people come together.
While the charsheet can be replaced by several workarounds and isn't a vital feature of the game, these forums are (amongst some other things) the driving force for this community, shaping the game in many ways.

Jazzatola
Gallente Research Institute
Posted - 2004.10.08 14:11:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: MaiLina KaTar
That's good, but don't you think that in some cases you can prove to be a considerate person by taking a step back so other's can enjoy what they like?

Well, that argument works both ways.

But I agree with you. It shouldn't be a choice between the two services but if it comes down to it, I'd take the forums. They are such an important communication tool it would be impossibly hard to do without them.

I was just pointing out that the ECM has a larger benefit that just being able to see when your next skill finishes.


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