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Dotiax Sivera
Posted - 2009.07.31 15:44:00 - [1]
 

Ok so I want to know how much can you make an hour with a Hulk and an Orca in high sec? Before I spend all my isk on this I need to know how much I make :) Assume I mine Veldspar only (The prices are reasonable a day)

My calculations say I can make 10mil a day, but I see topics where 10mil/hour are being done. So is 30mil a day (assume I can mine for 5 hours a day) a reasonable thing?

I hope someone can tell me how much it will pay out :D


Dictum Factum
Skill Training
Posted - 2009.07.31 15:49:00 - [2]
 

From a pure ISK/hour standpoint, you would be better off using those two characters to run level 4 missions. Not only will that generate a fair bit more cash, it will also generate a fair share of high-end minerals (as well as the low-end).

Dotiax Sivera
Posted - 2009.07.31 15:50:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Dotiax Sivera on 31/07/2009 15:51:20
As my school doesn't allow to keep full attention at EVE so missions would become a problem. Mining can be done semi-afk it would suit me much more

MrNuby
Posted - 2009.07.31 15:52:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: MrNuby on 31/07/2009 15:55:08
You'd be better off in 2 hulks instead of one hulk+orca.

EDiT: An all lvl5 char with 5 t2 mining drones and T2 crystals mining non-stop with perfect cycles and no hauling will make about 12M/h.

Labartu Sumeri
Posted - 2009.07.31 15:54:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Dotiax Sivera
Ok so I want to know how much can you make an hour with a Hulk and an Orca in high sec?


There's a nifty little feature called "Search" on this website that will probably help you out. :) Especially since this question has been asked several dozen times already...

Dotiax Sivera
Posted - 2009.07.31 15:58:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Labartu Sumeri
Originally by: Dotiax Sivera
Ok so I want to know how much can you make an hour with a Hulk and an Orca in high sec?


There's a nifty little feature called "Search" on this website that will probably help you out. :) Especially since this question has been asked several dozen times already...


Yes, I used that 'button' but people expect to mine Kernite instead of Veldspar, and I prefer to hear it from other people instead of finding an old post telling it does like that.

Kurfin
Amarr
Posted - 2009.07.31 16:02:00 - [7]
 

Please tell me your not thinking of using an Orca and Hulk with one toon, leaving the orca unoccupied while you mine in the hulk? Because doing that can result in a very happy pirate, and we wouldn't want that.

Assuming that you are using two accounts, you'll get more isk with 2 hulks. IIRC you need at least 4 hulks to make swapping one out for an orca worth it.


Callista Omenswarm
Binary Industries Inc
Posted - 2009.07.31 16:40:00 - [8]
 

I used to push 40mil a day, but that was mining plag.

Veld is reasonable enough to do 10mil an hour in with an Orca, but the problem is finding fat enough veld roids for semi-afk mining.

30mil over 5 hours is a reasonable goal to hit. You'll most likely do more, but it is safe to base your numbers off that.

If you can, best to find a quiet area of Amarr space, mine Kernite and haul it unrefined to sell at a hub. Kernite roids have longer burn times (so you need to retarget less frequently) and plain Kernite will pull in more than Veld.


Dotiax Sivera
Posted - 2009.07.31 18:12:00 - [9]
 

Thanks for the help!
I'll be doing some work with my brother. 3 hulks, an orca and an iteron mark V. We got ourselfs a very nice high sec with like 10 people in it. Enough belts to make tons :)

Dotiax Sivera
Posted - 2009.07.31 18:50:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Callista Omenswarm
I used to push 40mil a day, but that was mining plag.

Veld is reasonable enough to do 10mil an hour in with an Orca, but the problem is finding fat enough veld roids for semi-afk mining.

30mil over 5 hours is a reasonable goal to hit. You'll most likely do more, but it is safe to base your numbers off that.

If you can, best to find a quiet area of Amarr space, mine Kernite and haul it unrefined to sell at a hub. Kernite roids have longer burn times (so you need to retarget less frequently) and plain Kernite will pull in more than Veld.



I though the prices of Kernite dropped lately? Anyway thanks for the help everyone! :)

Sserxe
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.07.31 21:19:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Sserxe on 31/07/2009 21:21:39
Here's an idea that might be extension of yours that I've been thinking about.

Set up in a high sec system without any stations usually loads of belts but hard to move the ore.

Setup a medium tower (requires lots faction work) but you can offer to refine ore at 100% for a fee per m3.

Since you have the orca already this would make it easy to move the ore to the tower for refining.

Then you provide a moving service for the minerals to the nearest system with a station on contract. Here you would need a freigher to move bulk amounts of ore.

Not sure if you have the capital to set this up or if your in a corp already but what do you think?

Musagetes
Gallente
Taggart Transdimensional
Virtue of Selfishness
Posted - 2009.07.31 21:42:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Sserxe
Edited by: Sserxe on 31/07/2009 21:21:39
Setup a medium tower (requires lots faction work) but you can offer to refine ore at 100% for a fee per m3.

You can't refine at 100% at a POS refinery, the best possible yield you can get is 75% using an Intensive Refining Array.

Dario Wall
Posted - 2009.07.31 21:57:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Sserxe
Edited by: Sserxe on 31/07/2009 21:21:39
high sec system

move the ore to the tower for refining


I thought refining arrays couldn't be anchored in Empire? Neutral

Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
Posted - 2009.07.31 22:07:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Dario Wall
Originally by: Sserxe
Edited by: Sserxe on 31/07/2009 21:21:39
high sec system

move the ore to the tower for refining


I thought refining arrays couldn't be anchored in Empire? Neutral


They can't, lowsec/0.0 only

Dario Wall
Posted - 2009.07.31 22:25:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Breaker77
They can't, lowsec/0.0 only


Thought so.

Looks like a couple people in here need to do some research before suggesting ideas.

Zex Maxwell
Caldari
Posted - 2009.07.31 22:36:00 - [16]
 

I can make 22M an hour in a maxed out hulk with a maxed out orca. and I found an area that's hardly touched.

Sserxe
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.07.31 23:09:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Dario Wall
Originally by: Sserxe
Edited by: Sserxe on 31/07/2009 21:21:39
high sec system

move the ore to the tower for refining


I thought refining arrays couldn't be anchored in Empire? Neutral


They can't, lowsec/0.0 only


I stand corrected, thanks

Princess Loretta
Posted - 2009.07.31 23:36:00 - [18]
 

I'm with the poster who suggested missions - they are by far the quickest way to make good isk, especially if you salvage and loot all your wrecks.

WRT what ore to mine - it varies but has been veldspar for a long time for profit per hour but this can change and you should work out the maths for yourself as to why Very Happy

UNLESS you work this out for yourself and update your maths daily with local mineral buy prices you will always be on here asking this question.


 

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