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Kail Storm
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.07.29 19:31:00 - [1]
 

Ok guys I live in a class 2 WH and normally when I go through the 8 usual sites on my scanner, the nex tday it usually has more.

Yesterday and today There is nothing but 2 WH`s in all system so my question is how do wh`s spawn, I thought after downtime but there are no new sites after 2 days now. So how do they spawn daily? weekly? Randomly?

Also Ive seen alot of players list there WH`s as boosting armor or shields or whatever...How do I find out what my WH does?

And Ladar=Gas
Grav=ore
Mag=ruins analyzing but does these include T3 hull bpcs, or is that radar?
Radar=what?

Thx alot

Beserker Bob
Posted - 2009.07.29 19:36:00 - [2]
 

Maybe it's just coincidence, but it seems like things aren't spawning as often as usual. New things have spawned, but it seems like a whole lot less.

Frenden Dax
Dax Acquisitions
Posted - 2009.07.29 19:51:00 - [3]
 

Over the last couple days I also noticed a decrease in new spawns in my (old) Class 2 wormhole. It could be just our perceptions though; without confirmation from CCP (which as we all know isn't forthcoming) there's no way to be sure.

Question! If you live in a Class 2, how the hell do you not know what the various signature types are? Is today your first day in w-space or something?

Kail Storm
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.07.29 21:26:00 - [4]
 

I know what they are but im double checking....All the Mag sites ive been to have wrecked sub routines and ive never been to a radar...ever in my wh. So im making sure my theory is right man.

Where are relics at?

Gavin DeVries
Posted - 2009.07.29 21:53:00 - [5]
 

I think they are in the Magnetometric sites; those are the archaeology sites. We did have a derelict Talocan frigate pop up in a radar site last night, though. Radar sites are hacking sites; we see a bunch of "Ejected Sleeper Databanks" plus waves of sleeper ships there, and the cans drop a bunch of datacores and decryptors.

Ace Secunda
AQUILA INC
Posted - 2009.07.30 00:13:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Ace Secunda on 30/07/2009 00:13:13
Magnet = Wrecked, malfunctioning and in-tact sleeper parts used for reverse engineering of T3 BPC's
Radar = Datacores, skill books and RAM tools for reverse engineering of T3 BPC's
Gravimetric = Minerals, same as known space
Ladar = Gas types used with reaction labs to create reactions used in the production of T3

Sleepers themselves = salvaged for parts used in production of T3 and subsystems and drop loot sold to certain factions for really good isk.

Hope this helps, pop into aperturecom in game channel for more questions answered.

Petyr Baelich
Valar Morghulis.
Get Off My Lawn
Posted - 2009.07.30 00:58:00 - [7]
 

Sites spawn independantly of downtime. When one site is completed or reaches its despawn timer it is randomly respawned in a random wormhole, (either anywhere, or within the same wormhole constellation. I don't know anyone who has managed to put a POS in every wormhole within one wormhole constellation to check this, but you can get constellation IDs from data dumps -before they removed that info- to attempt to confirm this). A site will despawn when it is completed, (all rats dead in anomaly, any cans accessed in radar/mag, all gas removed from ladar, all asteroids mined in grav) and there are no ships left on-grid. Or, it will despawn once it reaches its timer (about 100 hours). Whichever happens first.

Kail Storm
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.07.30 01:38:00 - [8]
 

Wait so does anyone know what peeps mean when the ysay -30% active shield boosting or +20% speed? How do I figure out what my wh does?

Also will tougher [not perimeter sites]ever pop up in my little class 2 or is it based on something else other than class of WH?

Ashmira Wintereyes
Caldari
Free Spirits
Posted - 2009.07.30 12:07:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Kail Storm
Wait so does anyone know what peeps mean when the ysay -30% active shield boosting or +20% speed? How do I figure out what my wh does?

Also will tougher [not perimeter sites]ever pop up in my little class 2 or is it based on something else other than class of WH?


I find it rather troublesome that you moved into a wormhole with obviously no clue whatsoever on what it can do/contains.

@ the other poster, im intrigued by the mentioning of a talocan frigate in a radar site as i've only encountered these in magnetometric sites sofar.... do you by change have the name of that radarsite and the class of w-space you saw it?

@ OP, please go read up on wormholes and then come back with some questions, all i can say the bonusses/penalties you 'can' get are related to the type of Anomoly your Wormhole has, and not every wormhole contains an Anomoly.

And yes, frontier sites can spawn in class 2 WH's, although not as much as in C3 and up.

Gavin DeVries
Posted - 2009.07.30 13:12:00 - [10]
 

Ashmira, it was in a Class 2, Unsecured Perimeter Comms Relay. There was a Sleepless Outguard up when we warped in, in addition to the usual first wave. Since I've never seen a battleship in the initial group of that site in a C2, I assumed it was a guard for the derelict frigate. Like you, I've normally seen them in magneto sites.

Ashmira Wintereyes
Caldari
Free Spirits
Posted - 2009.07.30 13:49:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Gavin DeVries
Ashmira, it was in a Class 2, Unsecured Perimeter Comms Relay. There was a Sleepless Outguard up when we warped in, in addition to the usual first wave. Since I've never seen a battleship in the initial group of that site in a C2, I assumed it was a guard for the derelict frigate. Like you, I've normally seen them in magneto sites.


Thanks for the information Gavin, yeah the derelict's do spawn guards, so always check the site properly when you encounter other things then the 'normal' first wave Smile

Fransua
Gallente
The Wormhole Mafia
Posted - 2009.07.30 14:22:00 - [12]
 

I've found a talocan cruiser in a frontier radar site. Was bloody annoyed as had to go back to POS to fit a salvager. Now I always take a salvager when Im tank farming a mag/radar. I think there is a chance for a talocan ship to spawn in mags and radars.

Petyr Baelich
Valar Morghulis.
Get Off My Lawn
Posted - 2009.07.30 15:47:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Fransua
I've found a talocan cruiser in a frontier radar site. Was bloody annoyed as had to go back to POS to fit a salvager. Now I always take a salvager when Im tank farming a mag/radar. I think there is a chance for a talocan ship to spawn in mags and radars.

This is correct.

AleRiperKilt
Posted - 2009.07.30 15:51:00 - [14]
 

It seems devs intended for occupied w-space systems to have less chance for spawns. We live in a c4 that has been empty since I moved in there a month ago. We had a couple static plexes and a gravimetric we mined for days a week ago.

The only thing we get for sure is a static hole going to a c5 so we pretty much ignore our own system and go there to kill sleepers.

If system is occupied or got no spawns, we just close the hole and try the new one... there is always another class 5 to farm ugh

Now the spawn algorithm needs some adjustment, we usually find systems with 20+ spawns in there while ours is almost always empty Evil or Very Mad

Kail Storm
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.08.01 05:07:00 - [15]
 

I moved a POS i nwith a good friend of mine and he had to leave eve...So in a way I guess I got stuck here :) I have been learning alot...Is it to uch to awnser the anomoly question?

How do I tell what anomolies my WH has if any? My shields etc seem to be the same. Im getting very good with probing and going to Neighboring WH to clean ito ut whe nmine is dry and I find the more I kill the more my wh is plentiful .

Anyways some help please. Anomolies how do I diagnose?

Gavin DeVries
Posted - 2009.08.01 06:35:00 - [16]
 

Do a google search for "Wormhole Thingie". It's an app someone designed right after Apocrypha went live. You can type in the locus signature of your wormhole and it will tell you more information about your hole than you can possibly use, but the main things are it will list the Class of the hole and an effects on those in it.

aka Ishur
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2009.08.01 12:01:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: aka Ishur on 01/08/2009 12:02:39
Confirming that wormhole Thingy is the biznitch. Also POS have absolutely no effect on spawn rates!!! This is dev confirmed!! So stop saying it!! Its wrong!eleventyone


wow didnt think .s.h.i.z. would be censored...kinda feel all innocent coz i have no idea what it could mean..

Kail Storm
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.08.01 20:02:00 - [18]
 

Guys thx so much...Ok is there a database for WH`s somewhere?

Ok guys my class 2 always has a hisec way leading out is it the same with class 3`s?

Gavin DeVries
Posted - 2009.08.01 20:32:00 - [19]
 

That depends on the particular hole. However, the exit holes will stay the same always in that particular hole. In my current one, we have a D382 that leads to a Class 2 and an A239 that leads to lowsec. Even though the destinations change, there is always a way out into lowsec and a way into another Class 2. Most of the time I can scan out that neighboring C2 and find a route to hisec. The deeper in you, the less likely you are to find direct links to hisec space I believe.

Kail Storm
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.08.01 21:11:00 - [20]
 

Sorry im askin guys but seriously the eve search doesnt help much on WH`s since There are sooooo many threads and Op`s are either to ahead of me ...or idiots.

I have always a hisec in my WH and someone told me its becuase 1-2 have a definate HISEC exit always.....Is this true guys...If so would a 3 always have 1 hi sec? Im thinking bout movin pos to the neighboring class3 but wont do it if there is no hisec as fueling a small seems to take alot of time, and losec is a gambe at best and suicicde at worst.

Cagot
Spelunkers
Posted - 2009.08.01 21:29:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Kail Storm

I have always a hisec in my WH and someone told me its becuase 1-2 have a definate HISEC exit always.....Is this true guys...

No, it's not true. The first Class 1 I settled had a standard 0.0 exit, and the only time it had a high sec exit was the occasional K162 when somebody punched into it from high sec. After I figured out what was going on I moved to my current one, which *does* have a standard high sec exit.

Not great for farming, but perfect for POS industry... reacting gases and the odd bit of grav site mining when the spirit moves me.

To figure out your "standard" exit(s) you need to spend a few days there watching.


 

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