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silken mouth
Gallente
Core Genes Applied Technologies
Posted - 2009.06.25 11:17:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: silken mouth on 25/06/2009 12:48:35
some of us are missing the cruise missile SB.
and some of us would like to see the dictor to be more useful.

so, why not give the dictor a covops cloak and 3 cruise launchers?

sure some balancing would be necessary, but in general i think it would be nice.

just ignore valandril, he is just trolling, as usual...

Valandril
Caldari
Ex-Mortis
Posted - 2009.06.25 11:47:00 - [2]
 

Dictors are not usefull ?1?!!?!

silken mouth
Gallente
Core Genes Applied Technologies
Posted - 2009.06.25 11:54:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Valandril
Dictors are not usefull ?1?!!?!


who said that?

Valandril
Caldari
Ex-Mortis
Posted - 2009.06.25 11:55:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: silken mouth
Originally by: Valandril
Dictors are not usefull ?1?!!?!


who said that?
My reply made as much sense as your post, dictors are more than fine.

silken mouth
Gallente
Core Genes Applied Technologies
Posted - 2009.06.25 11:59:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: silken mouth on 25/06/2009 11:59:42
pls troll someone else....

if you have a valid argument against the proposal, bring it or stop wasting space.

Pvt Public7
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2009.06.25 12:04:00 - [6]
 

Put cruises on Tier 2 T2 BC hulls.
Citadels too. Prolly not the same hull though.
Also siege mod.

silken mouth
Gallente
Core Genes Applied Technologies
Posted - 2009.06.25 12:17:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: silken mouth on 25/06/2009 12:17:42
Originally by: Pvt Public7
Put cruises on Tier 2 T2 BC hulls.
Citadels too. Prolly not the same hull though.
Also siege mod.


what does this have to do with dictors??

wait a sec..., did i just get trolled?

Valandril
Caldari
Ex-Mortis
Posted - 2009.06.25 12:37:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: silken mouth
Edited by: silken mouth on 25/06/2009 12:17:42
Originally by: Pvt Public7
Put cruises on Tier 2 T2 BC hulls.
Citadels too. Prolly not the same hull though.
Also siege mod.


what does this have to do with dictors??

wait a sec..., did i just get trolled?
Troll whining about getting trolled o.0

darius mclever
Posted - 2009.06.25 12:46:00 - [9]
 

dictors got 2 roles. tackle and anti-tackle/anti-support. and from what i see they do both roles very well. they dont need a covop cloaks and they are not stealthbombers.

stealthbombers with dictor bubbles would over powered and unbalanced.
and the dictor would loose its anti-tackle ability, (sabre vs ceptor anyone?)

that said. EVE is a game that rewards team play. get a good dictor pilot and some SB together and ****.

not supported obviously

silken mouth
Gallente
Core Genes Applied Technologies
Posted - 2009.06.25 12:48:00 - [10]
 

some of us are missing the cruise missile SB.
and some of us would like to see the dictor to be more useful.

so, why not give the dictor a covops cloak and 3 cruise launchers?

sure some balancing would be necessary, but in general i think it would be nice.


just ignore valandril, he is just trolling, as usual...

silken mouth
Gallente
Core Genes Applied Technologies
Posted - 2009.06.25 13:02:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: silken mouth on 25/06/2009 13:04:07
Originally by: darius mclever
dictors got 2 roles. tackle and anti-tackle/anti-support. and from what i see they do both roles very well. they dont need a covop cloaks and they are not stealthbombers.

stealthbombers with dictor bubbles would over powered and unbalanced.
and the dictor would loose its anti-tackle ability, (sabre vs ceptor anyone?)

that said. EVE is a game that rewards team play. get a good dictor pilot and some SB together and ****.

not supported obviously



what support do you intend to kill with a dictor? frigs are the only thing you can engage with a chance of survival, and just because the sabre is useful for killing ceptors, doesnt mean dictors in general are. cruise missiles especially the javelins pose a good threat to ceptors and other t2 frigs and even t1 cruisers.

dictors atm, dont do alot of damage, dont have a good tank and are more and more replaced by hictors, which have both.
Giving them 3 cruise missile launchers would give them at least some damage output, especially against ceptors....


covops cloak is debatable, as i primarily wanted jump harmonics 2 for dictors because black ops jumpable cloaker gangs could use something that can drop a bubble and imo the dictor would fit in there quite nicely.

AtheistOfDoom
Amarr
Invicta.
Posted - 2009.06.26 15:28:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: silken mouth
some of us are missing the cruise missile SB.
and some of us would like to see the dictor to be more useful.

so, why not give the dictor a covops cloak and 3 cruise launchers?

sure some balancing would be necessary, but in general i think it would be nice.


just ignore valandril, he is just trolling, as usual...

It wouldn't make sense, and ffs dictors are fine.

DeathsEmbrace
Minmatar
Beyond Divinity Inc
Excuses.
Posted - 2009.06.26 15:33:00 - [13]
 

They could do with that 25% base speed, that ccp removed 2 yrs ago back. Wink

Ausser
Bubba Gump ORE Corp.
Posted - 2009.06.26 16:13:00 - [14]
 

Usage for dictor with cov ops cloak:

1) Warp cloaked near hostile fleet.
2) Launch bubble as soon as titan shows up.
3) DDD.
4) ???
5) Profit.

I bet ppl find lots of other nice uses for cov ops dictor since it can be bridged arround.

I would love it on any hot drop and bomber gank. It would become mandatory.

Where do you need the 3 cm launchers for? Just show? Wink

Originally by: silken mouth

... sure some balancing would be necessary ...



Allready done by ccp. That's why neither this little beast nor hic have cm & covops cloak.

silken mouth
Gallente
Core Genes Applied Technologies
Posted - 2009.06.26 18:27:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Ausser
Usage for dictor with cov ops cloak:

1) Warp cloaked near hostile fleet.
2) Launch bubble as soon as titan shows up.
3) DDD.
4) ???
5) Profit.

I bet ppl find lots of other nice uses for cov ops dictor since it can be bridged arround.

I would love it on any hot drop and bomber gank. It would become mandatory.

Where do you need the 3 cm launchers for? Just show? Wink

Originally by: silken mouth

... sure some balancing would be necessary ...



Allready done by ccp. That's why neither this little beast nor hic have cm & covops cloak.


like i said covops cloak is debatable, but jump harmonics 2 would be nice, bridging cloaker gangs could use a ship that deploys bubbles and dictors arent that sturdy anyway, so they would certainly fit the profile.

Cruise missiles were nice for really cool long range tactics (launch, cloak, decloak, reaquire), and i would love to see this come back.
since they also are nice against frigs i thought it would fit to the destroyer role.

4THELULZ
Posted - 2009.06.26 20:06:00 - [16]
 

Drop the act.

You don't want to give dictors a use, this is just a very poorly concealed "waaaaaah I want the old bombers back". You even gave it away completely a couple of posts up.

The covops cloak is not something that belongs on an interdictor, neither are oversized weapons.
Even the range has no real niché as it's entirely possible to get javelin torps well over 100km from a bomber; perhaps you forgot to mention giving dictors an explosion radius bonus? Because it looks to me like you just want to return to insta popping frigates.

No more cruise missiles on small ships. No more one-vollying stationary frigates.
Live with it.

silken mouth
Gallente
Core Genes Applied Technologies
Posted - 2009.06.27 02:55:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: 4THELULZ
Drop the act.

You don't want to give dictors a use, this is just a very poorly concealed "waaaaaah I want the old bombers back". You even gave it away completely a couple of posts up.




i actually gave it away in the first sentence of the OP, so no concealing... Rolling Eyes
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The covops cloak is not something that belongs on an interdictor, neither are oversized weapons.
Even the range has no real niché as it's entirely possible to get javelin torps well over 100km from a bomber; perhaps you forgot to mention giving dictors an explosion radius bonus? Because it looks to me like you just want to return to insta popping frigates.

No more cruise missiles on small ships. No more one-vollying stationary frigates.
Live with it.


because insta popping with torps is so much different...

and no, i didnt forget the explosion velocity bonus, the interest was long rang cruise missile fire....

and i stated before, my primary interest is jump harmonics 2 not cloaked warping....


 

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