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Jin Gle
Asgardreia
Posted - 2009.06.17 14:29:00 - [61]
 

aw look the squids still want us to acknowledge their victory :)

TBH if the 22nd doesnt get rewarded and every STPRO muppet does, it would be pretty unfair. I hope CCP wil rectify this.

Chompy
Caldari
Posted - 2009.06.17 15:35:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Have any of you ever "won" an MMO game before?

No. You can't win an MMO because it is in a state of perpetualality. To "win" would mean that you have achieved the "final ending" of something.

You can win a board game. Let's imagine you were playing a board game and you start on the start space and you roll dice to get to the end space. Whoever gets to the end space first is the winner. In EVE, there is no end space. To put it even simpler, there are no spaces at all. Just dice throws.

The Caldari have captured all of the objectives, however since it is still in a state of neutrality, the Gallente can capture systems back. Because the end result of the Caldari capturing plexes results in no finalized ending, nobody has "won" anything, and the Caldari are being rewarded for capturing all the systems.

Good job to them. Remember though, there is no "winner" in a perpetual system.

Well said.

Steve Floros
Posted - 2009.06.17 15:35:00 - [63]
 

Yea, yea, Galls may joke about it, but FW is a game, and we play games for the reward, even if thats just a medal. Bet it will look cool in our character sheet.

I just hope it stays after someone leaves FW, not like the ranks.

Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Posted - 2009.06.17 21:45:00 - [64]
 

The term "won" comes from some of the Caldari plexing corps who started off joking about winning the war if we took all the systems, we never expected to win by doing it nor do we believe we have.

Anyone saying the war is over is stupid, the war will run until CCP decides to end it and with the amount of pilots that do play and enjoy that I doubt it will ever happen.

Yes most of us plex corps do run around saying "we won the war" but this most of the time is meant in jest or trolling (I hope all mine have come off as the first)

5fesexyy
Posted - 2009.06.18 10:48:00 - [65]
 

jumpgate has tons of medals and achievements. It is looking awesome.

Hidden Snake
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
Posted - 2009.06.18 11:13:00 - [66]
 

the funny thing is that gals all the time smack they do not care about achievments of caldari ... however when there is something for it the frogs start screaming all around the forums again. funny


jag
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.06.18 11:25:00 - [67]
 

Please make any medals/ribbons as sellable tradeable items.

WOLFY/Gallente will be recieving enough of them to finance a small war , if sellable.


Unfamed II
Caldari
NPC Corporation
Paisti Syndicate
Posted - 2009.06.18 14:05:00 - [68]
 

Awarded for unity in bravery and valor towards the fulfillment of national military objectives resulting in the complete dominance of the Federation and Caldari Warzone YC 111.05.31

"For courage in the face of danger,
For excellence in the field of battle,
For boldness in enemy space ,
For unwavering loyalty to the State,
For victory against the Federal Defence Union on YC 111.05.31,
The Caldari State awards you the Distinguished Blade."
State Executor, Tibus Heth


woop Rolling Eyes

Hidden Snake
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
Posted - 2009.06.18 15:28:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Unfamed II
Awarded for unity in bravery and valor towards the fulfillment of national military objectives resulting in the complete dominance of the Federation and Caldari Warzone YC 111.05.31

"For courage in the face of danger,
For excellence in the field of battle,
For boldness in enemy space ,
For unwavering loyalty to the State,
For victory against the Federal Defence Union on YC 111.05.31,
The Caldari State awards you the Distinguished Blade."
State Executor, Tibus Heth


woop Rolling Eyes


sweet :) ... will be my first medal

Logan Xerxes
Xerxes Security
Posted - 2009.06.18 15:36:00 - [70]
 

Edited by: Logan Xerxes on 18/06/2009 15:39:44
I am very... annoyed right now. If CCP sprung the "release date" forward then it looks like I won't be geting mine. So I miss out because I need to wait 7 days for a new corp to have it's standings generated so I can rejoin the militia after my FW corp moves on. F*cking brilliant.

waruiushiro
Ice Fire Warriors
Posted - 2009.06.18 16:31:00 - [71]
 

medals are meh.

i like loot and corpses.

Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Posted - 2009.06.18 17:48:00 - [72]
 

Topic name: CCP : Who will receive the Caldari Medal?

Answer: Not the people that did the work.

Yup I'm PO'd and plan to rant about it in every thread we have on the subject.

Pesro Montales
Gallente
State Protectorate
Posted - 2009.06.18 20:05:00 - [73]
 

They should make the Medal date the 22nd and give the people there gold!

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2009.06.18 20:07:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: Pesro Montales
They should make the Medal date the 22nd and give the people there gold!


Heartily supported!

Major Deviant
Posted - 2009.06.18 22:33:00 - [75]
 

Edited by: Major Deviant on 18/06/2009 22:33:24
Ok, it seems people have start receiving the metal and some have not. Th news item still mentions the 23rd so in my eyes there is only on solution to this:

Petition

Those who believe they deserve the medal and have not received it by the 24th should petition it with the reasons why they should receive it. If they had a good reason to receive it (i.e. 22nd) and the petition is denied, pls post the reasoning of the GM here without GM details (no copypasta).

Then grab your pitchforks.

Oftherocks
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
Posted - 2009.06.19 01:08:00 - [76]
 

I think it would be very nice if we could get some official responses to the questions being asked about this medal. Such as: Who all shall receive the medal (what qualifications are required)?, Why was the date of its awarding announced as the 23rd when it was in actuality awarded on the 18th? Is there any chance you may reconsider how the people who were awarded this medal were chosen? From a RP standpoint do you believe the State would not award its highest ranking members, members who received repeated promotions due to their hard work in securing all Gallente space?

I think it was pretty cool that you thought of awarding a medal to the Caldari Militia for conquering all Gallente FW space, but I am very confused by the way it was implemented (both the timing and the selection process).

If we could get an official response/explanation on this issue I believe it would go a long way toward removing the bad taste left in many peoples mouth.

Vyrk
Posted - 2009.06.19 03:53:00 - [77]
 

Edited by: Vyrk on 19/06/2009 03:56:18

No offence, but who cares about the silly medal.

If i wanted one, i could join a corp in the Caldari Milita and get the medal for doing nothing. So thats what the medal is worth. Nothing.

Seriously, those people crying over who gets it or not, need to find something better to do.

Enjoy the PvP, thats all that FW is good for.
The plexing is annoying - no wonder its not done by most people in FW, except noobs.

Oftherocks
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
Posted - 2009.06.19 04:55:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: Vyrk
noobs.


Says the tool with an exclamation point for a portrait.Rolling Eyes

Bad Messenger
draketrain
Posted - 2009.06.19 07:28:00 - [79]
 

I has a medal !

Oftherocks
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
Posted - 2009.06.19 08:32:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: Bad Messenger
I has a medal !


Thank you BM for helping me make my point.Twisted Evil








j/kTwisted Evil

Hurtado Soneka
Caldari
Vindicare Temple
Posted - 2009.06.19 09:51:00 - [81]
 

I butchered children on Intaki Prime and all I got was this? Laughing

EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
Narwhals Ate My Duck
Posted - 2009.06.19 10:33:00 - [82]
 

My spy got a medal \0/ not much use though is it. At least I could sell my alliance tourney medal, but this just sucks.

Gorp
Posted - 2009.06.19 10:58:00 - [83]
 

How do I get rid of this stupid medal? Its embarrassing.

Seriously.

Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Posted - 2009.06.19 16:34:00 - [84]
 

Edited by: Turelus on 19/06/2009 16:34:31
Originally by: Vyrk
Edited by: Vyrk on 19/06/2009 03:56:18

No offence, but who cares about the silly medal.

If i wanted one, i could join a corp in the Caldari Milita and get the medal for doing nothing. So thats what the medal is worth. Nothing.

Seriously, those people crying over who gets it or not, need to find something better to do.

Enjoy the PvP, thats all that FW is good for.
The plexing is annoying - no wonder its not done by most people in FW, except noobs.

Erm... the 22nd BRDU for all the work we put in?
I keep hearing "It's only pixels who cares?" well some of us do care, and it's funny how half the people who didn't got it and those that did didn't. If they had made it tradable maybe we could have got ours off all the people that say they don't care...

GBlair
Caldari
State Protectorate
Posted - 2009.06.20 15:18:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: Parmenides Elea

Caldari 0.024 kills daily per member 1.777 VPs daily per member

Gallente 0.037 kills daily per member 2.442 VPs daily per member

Minmi 0.034 kills daily per member 2.234 VPs daily per member

Amarr 0.041 kills daily per member 2.957 VPs daily per member

Source http://fwstats.eve-ic.net/



Actually because Caldari have more members, the averages would be pushed down. So all the factions are probably more or less equal on points and kills.

Example:
100 Gall members make 100 kills in a day = 1 kill per member.
200 Cal members (even though half of them are inactive) make 100 kills in a day = 0.5 kills per member when it should be 1.

At time of writing Caldari Militia has 4972 members and 191 online.


Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2009.06.22 13:54:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: GBlair
Originally by: Parmenides Elea

Caldari 0.024 kills daily per member 1.777 VPs daily per member

Gallente 0.037 kills daily per member 2.442 VPs daily per member

Minmi 0.034 kills daily per member 2.234 VPs daily per member

Amarr 0.041 kills daily per member 2.957 VPs daily per member

Source http://fwstats.eve-ic.net/



Actually because Caldari have more members, the averages would be pushed down. So all the factions are probably more or less equal on points and kills.

Example:
100 Gall members make 100 kills in a day = 1 kill per member.
200 Cal members (even though half of them are inactive) make 100 kills in a day = 0.5 kills per member when it should be 1.

At time of writing Caldari Militia has 4972 members and 191 online.



Flashh Gorden
Exile Consortium
Nihilists Social Club
Posted - 2009.06.22 15:47:00 - [87]
 

Originally by: Parmenides Elea
Originally by: Ulstan
Edited by: Ulstan on 16/06/2009 20:01:04
Originally by: GoingOffRoading
Edited by: GoingOffRoading on 16/06/2009 03:12:25
"You PvE better than naybody else but you suck at PvP... Here's a medal"

Yea that sounds like the Caldari


The Caldari are getting a medal for beating the crap out of the Gallente and taking every single one of their systems.

Losing every system you owned is pretty epic fail and I whole-heartedly support the Gallente being given a medal to commemorate their loss. It takes some special dedication to losing every fight against the Caldari attackers, or even avoiding fighting them at all, to lose all your systems.

FFS you know exactly where they are going to be, was it too much work to warp away from the Villore gate to go engage them? It's not the Caldari's fault you were too cowardly or too incompetent to mount any effective opposition to them at all. You didn't even need to know how to use the scanner to find and stop them and you still failed. Way to fail to show up to the PvP fights, Gallente! o7

The constant sour grapes and whining from Gallente get rather old. Why not simply be honest and say "We didn't feel like fighting the Caldari over our plexes, so we didn't show up. As a result of our decision not to engage, we lost our systems, but we're having fun doing something else instead"?

As for the medals, they should be given to everyone who was in the militia at the exact moment all the systems were taken, and no one else.


No the caldari are getting a medal because they *****ed and moaned loud enough that ccp felt they had to give them something. But what to give them, they hadn't actually done anything other than orbit a button with massive numerical soffline. So a medal was decided upon, that way the caldari can keep preening their epeen and us gal can laugh at their pve medal.

As to why the caldari were largly unoppossed in the capture of the systems I guess for us at WOLFY its 2 reasons. First, during the build up to the alliance tourney (and thanks for dropping FW from this years alliance tourney CCP, you will need some pretty good justification for that!) we plexed like mad and the little caldari we encountered were without exception stabbed or fled the system as soon as we entered. So we simply stopped bothering to find a fight in a plex because there wasn't one to be had. Secondly the systems mostly became vulnerable just after dt which normally means only 1 or 2 members online. Of course WOLFY are good but even we would admit that 2 vs 50 is slightly too rich odds.

So congrats on your pve victory, we won't memntion numbers or the difference in the rats ewar, you did well to get so organised. Enjoy your medals, I hope they made it all worth while.

GavinGoodrich
Posted - 2009.06.22 20:59:00 - [88]
 

CCP: Something to consider.

You probably already knew this was going to happen, offering a blanket award to any member of the Caldari on suchandsuch date.

Don't consider this a "winning the war" medal guys. Think of this as more like a campaign ribbon for people who served during that time. Similar to real national militaries (sorta). They campaigned, they hit an unprecedented milestone; that deserves an award.

Trouble is, it came late. I'd say at least 1/2 the people involved with earning this medal (one major group of them being the 22nd) actually *didn't* get it cause of the late response. They moved on with thier lives. Whatever, that's old news. Main thing is we now have an award which is going out to alts that very well never even participated in this campaign, vs. players directly involved for months that won't even see it. Blanket awards may seem like a viable solution, but in the end the people that really deserved it the most aren't even getting it.

Put me in for ANYone who was in the 22nd during this timeframe to get this award. Others can probably petition and state thier case why they think they earned it (and insert massive troll replies.......here ________).

You're not going to fix the hundreds of random characters in the caldari militia when this award went out that probably didn't deserve it. It's just NOT worth the effort on CCP's part. Big effin' deal. Let's at least make sure the ones who campaigned for this mofo gets something out of it, eh?

Again, treat this like a campaign, and it probably makes a little more sense in this whole faction warfare thing. ugh

-Gav

GavinGoodrich
Posted - 2009.06.22 21:06:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: EVIL SYNNs
My spy got a medal \0/ not much use though is it. At least I could sell my alliance tourney medal, but this just sucks.


LaughingLaughingLaughing

Major Deviant
Posted - 2009.06.22 21:24:00 - [90]
 

Well as I have stated previously, come 24th and it is petition time.

I can not get the fact that my FW character is wing commander rank, leaves FW for FIVE days to give the epic arc a shot and BAM! No medal.....Sad

While being there when the last system fell....


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