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Aus Dog
Posted - 2009.06.14 13:53:00 - [1]
 

Since my skill limit is 47km in Deadspace to lock targets is there any sensor booster/radar/targeting module that will stretch that out. And yes I will train it first chance I get. Just thought it would be good to know if any worked in Deadspace. Chapped my butt that Quad Lif Fueled AFTERBURNER won't work in Deadspace. 3 million isk up a wild hogs butt! Aus

Mikal Drey
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2009.06.14 14:03:00 - [2]
 

hey hey

deadspace isnt restricting anything (apart from MWD) so a standard sensor booster with a range script added will boost your lock range.





Shattered Crystal - 60 day GTC

Sir Bum
Posted - 2009.06.14 14:15:00 - [3]
 

the locking range depends on your ship itself and your skills. Plus you can extend your locking range by fitting a sensor booster (fitting a script in it will make it even further).

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2009.06.14 15:07:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Aus Dog
Since my skill limit is 47km in Deadspace to lock targets is there any sensor booster/radar/targeting module that will stretch that out. And yes I will train it first chance I get. Just thought it would be good to know if any worked in Deadspace. Chapped my butt that Quad Lif Fueled AFTERBURNER won't work in Deadspace. 3 million isk up a wild hogs butt! Aus


I want your bobhaxed Quad Lif Fueled AFTERBURNER Shocked


and

Item Database > Ship Equipment > Propulsion > Microwarpdrives > Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets

note how it is filed under Microwarpdrive.

and wtf are you flying with a 47km lock range that fits a battleship mwd Shocked

FT Diomedes
Gallente
Factio Paucorum
Posted - 2009.06.14 15:37:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Aus Dog
Since my skill limit is 47km in Deadspace to lock targets is there any sensor booster/radar/targeting module that will stretch that out. And yes I will train it first chance I get. Just thought it would be good to know if any worked in Deadspace. Chapped my butt that Quad Lif Fueled AFTERBURNER won't work in Deadspace. 3 million isk up a wild hogs butt! Aus


I want your bobhaxed Quad Lif Fueled AFTERBURNER Shocked


and

Item Database > Ship Equipment > Propulsion > Microwarpdrives > Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets

note how it is filed under Microwarpdrive.

and wtf are you flying with a 47km lock range that fits a battleship mwd Shocked


A Battleship with very low skills.

Washell Olivaw
Posted - 2009.06.14 15:41:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Washell Olivaw on 14/06/2009 15:41:59
Originally by: FT Diomedes
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
and wtf are you flying with a 47km lock range that fits a battleship mwd Shocked


A Battleship with very low skills.


Betting a mil on one or more WCS fitted and half a mil on him fighting serpentis.

Kva Plexcha
Gallente
Doing You Right
Posted - 2009.06.15 08:59:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Kva Plexcha on 15/06/2009 08:59:47
Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Betting a mil on one or more WCS fitted and half a mil on him fighting serpentis.


Stop it your bringing back memories of my noob-youth.

Aus Dog
Posted - 2009.06.15 11:00:00 - [8]
 

Y'all can cluck your tongues all you like about low skill levels running a BS but time is a pretty potent limiting factor to skill levels. I do the best I can with what I got and I'd say 60-70 successfully completed Level 3's is not bad for a Noob. And the BS's are Raven and Maelstrom and you were right that the sensor booster stretched out my lock limit quite nicely until I can get that trained up. Aus

Washell Olivaw
Posted - 2009.06.15 11:48:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Washell Olivaw on 15/06/2009 12:25:57
Originally by: Aus Dog
...60-70 successfully completed Level 3's is not bad for a Noob. And the BS's are Raven and Maelstrom...


The targeting range of those 2 is more than 47 km, regardless of any training. The most common reason people have a reduced targeting range is because they fitted a Warp Core Stabilizer, which reduces targeting range and speed by ~50%. Second, the majority, if not all level 3's do not warp scram you, which means you fitted a module that's all penalty and no bonus.

lo breeze
CyberShield Inc
Posted - 2009.06.15 15:40:00 - [10]
 

Why aren't you running L3's in a BC....? Battleships are so damn slow, not to mention triple the cost and then some.

Elric Redeye
Ex Coelis
Posted - 2009.06.15 16:09:00 - [11]
 

+1 for "use a BC in L3's!" My Hurricane is much better to run L3's overall than my Maelstrom would be. Better mix of long and short attacks, much lower cost to operate (M ammo versus L ammo), and moves faster. The larger drone bay in the Mael doesn't make up for that unless you have mad drone skillz. I suppose pretending to be a drone ship would be a fun diversion though...

Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
Posted - 2009.06.15 16:33:00 - [12]
 

I did my level 3's in a Brutix... hell I even did some in an Assault Frigate but never in a Battleship Razz

Shandelzare
Posted - 2009.06.15 17:35:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Shandelzare on 15/06/2009 17:35:17
level 3's in an assault frig, fun time Laughing, but in a battleship, that's just painfull, except maybe with dominix

Aus Dog
Posted - 2009.06.16 15:55:00 - [14]
 

Maybe I was just very lucky but in about 70 level 3's I got scrammed so bad I lost my Raven. Could not initiate Warp no matter what. If that is what is limiting my target range so be it. With it on Mission Rats had me webbed the other day but I could still Warp out thanks to my Stab. Could only go 3 m/s but could warp out. Partner, It's 100% that those Mission Rats had me scrammed. It was either Blockade or a version thereof.

Aus Dog
Posted - 2009.06.16 15:56:00 - [15]
 

Maybe I was just very lucky but in about 70 level 3's I got scrammed so bad I lost my Raven in one. Could not initiate Warp no matter what. If that is what is limiting my target range so be it. With it on Mission Rats had me webbed the other day but I could still Warp out thanks to my Stab. Could only go 3 m/s but could warp out. Partner, It's 100% that those Mission Rats had me scrammed. It was either Blockade or a version thereof.

Ringo Jeicha
Posted - 2009.06.16 16:26:00 - [16]
 

Webbed and scrammed are 2 entirely different things.

Khorin D'tael
Caldari
D'tael Contracts
Posted - 2009.06.16 17:14:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Aus Dog
Since my skill limit is 47km in Deadspace to lock targets is there any sensor booster/radar/targeting module that will stretch that out. And yes I will train it first chance I get. Just thought it would be good to know if any worked in Deadspace. Chapped my butt that Quad Lif Fueled AFTERBURNER won't work in Deadspace. 3 million isk up a wild hogs butt! Aus


I want your bobhaxed Quad Lif Fueled AFTERBURNER Shocked


and

Item Database > Ship Equipment > Propulsion > Microwarpdrives > Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets

note how it is filed under Microwarpdrive.

and wtf are you flying with a 47km lock range that fits a battleship mwd Shocked


Stabs?


Aus Dog
Posted - 2009.06.17 15:04:00 - [18]
 

I actually use very little Eve TechTalk but Stabs are Warp Stabilizers. And I'm aware that Webbed and Scrammed are two different ills. I was Scrammed by the Mission Rats (NPC's?) in Blockade which caused me to lose my Raven. I was webbed in another mission but the foresite to have a Stab on allowed me Warp out even though I could only go 3 m/s outside Warp. Thot I was dead agin for a Minute.Yu want to see something amazing put a 100 mn Gist Afterburner on an empty Drake. It will dance like a Ballerina and fly at 370 m/s.

Mikal Drey
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2009.06.17 15:30:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Mikal Drey on 17/06/2009 15:32:27
Originally by: Aus Dog
I actually use very little Eve TechTalk or paragraphs . ..


"but Stabs are Warp Stabilizers."
Correct, and check the insane penalties they are applying to your ship. the lock time and range is severly hurting you in terms of getting the elite frigates dead asap. you are also forced to compensate for having them fitted. you needed the sensor booster cause they ****ed up your range and resolution.

Mission Rats (NPC's?)
Correct again, NPC PIRATE (rat)

with the Level 4's you will notice that specific npcs are doing the *EWAR effects and if you kill the Elite npc's first then you wont ket jammed/webbed/painted/jammed etc. you should also keep a close eye on the ewar notification on your overview and whatever ilks you should be top priority.

people have various methods and mine is to go "Elite Frig > Destroyer > BC > Cruiser > Battleship" with top priority on the vipers etc.

by the time you reach L4 you should know instintivly which rats do which ewar and those that are just an anoyance and can be ignored.

hope some of that helps

Shattered Crystal - 60 day GTC

Daedalus80
Gallente
Posted - 2009.06.17 16:19:00 - [20]
 

The Warp Core Stabs have too much drawbacks to be fitted on anything that is supposed to shoot. And even more important, they do not work on NPC-Scrams. I donīt know how strong their Scram actually is, may as well be infinite. NPC E-war has its own rules, so donīt fit any Stabs for missioning. Itīs useless, you just get the drawbacks.

Liteshow
Caldari
A Lite in the Darkness
Posted - 2009.06.17 16:54:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Daedalus80
The Warp Core Stabs have too much drawbacks to be fitted on anything that is supposed to shoot. And even more important, they do not work on NPC-Scrams. I donīt know how strong their Scram actually is, may as well be infinite. NPC E-war has its own rules, so donīt fit any Stabs for missioning. Itīs useless, you just get the drawbacks.


Um no? WCS DO work with mission rats, but as far as I know, different ships wth a point on you do stack. So 1 ship with 1 disruptor (1 pt warp scram) will be canceled be 1 WCS, but 3 ships each with a point on you would need 3xWCS to cancel them out. Maybe this is what you experienced?

Anyway Aus, stick with the "use a battlecruiser for level 3 missions" technique and I think you will have better luck overall. You can still fit the WCS if need be, but you will find that popping the scramming rats will be faster and easier in the BC, and eventually you won't need it, and will really appreciate the faster lock times and increased range (not to mention the spare low slot for tank/gank) once you do.

Daedalus80
Gallente
Posted - 2009.06.17 18:21:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Liteshow
Um no? WCS DO work with mission rats, but as far as I know, different ships wth a point on you do stack. So 1 ship with 1 disruptor (1 pt warp scram) will be canceled be 1 WCS, but 3 ships each with a point on you would need 3xWCS to cancel them out. Maybe this is what you experienced?


Are you sure about that? People told me otherwise(most of them being missionrunners). They told me the scramble-strenght is higher then player scramble. But I have to admit I never tried it myself. I always had better use for my lows. Very Happy
Anyway, even if it works, its just not worth it (for the reasons you stated).

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2009.06.17 19:32:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Khorin D'tael
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Aus Dog
Since my skill limit is 47km in Deadspace to lock targets is there any sensor booster/radar/targeting module that will stretch that out. And yes I will train it first chance I get. Just thought it would be good to know if any worked in Deadspace. Chapped my butt that Quad Lif Fueled AFTERBURNER won't work in Deadspace. 3 million isk up a wild hogs butt! Aus


I want your bobhaxed Quad Lif Fueled AFTERBURNER Shocked


and

Item Database > Ship Equipment > Propulsion > Microwarpdrives > Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets

note how it is filed under Microwarpdrive.

and wtf are you flying with a 47km lock range that fits a battleship mwd Shocked


Stabs?




/palmface

and to the op, you are aware a drake can tank far better then a raven with the same skill/isk investment, it will also probably do better damage against the targets in a level 3 mission. as well I assume you aren't fitting 3 rigor rigs and 4 bcus and a painter on your raven...

Petyr Baelich
Valar Morghulis.
Get Off My Lawn
Posted - 2009.06.17 20:19:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
and to the op, you are aware a drake can tank far better then a raven with the same skill/isk investment, it will also probably do better damage against the targets in a level 3 mission. as well I assume you aren't fitting 3 rigor rigs and 4 bcus and a painter on your raven...

OP is a troll. He has medium pulse lasers fitted to that raven if you believe his posts in S&M.

Zansatsja
Caldari
Dutch Space Oddesey
Posted - 2009.06.18 07:35:00 - [25]
 

Dont FLY what you cant fit propper.

Aus Dog
Posted - 2009.06.21 12:15:00 - [26]
 

Actually my medium Pulse lasers are outrunning cruise missiles for damage doing as long as I either point them the right way or change the crystal. And I am now using Malstrom with 4 med Pulses and 3 cruises. I couldn't resist that 7.5% shield bonus. A Mal is just a Mini Raven with more flexability on hi slots and a good powergrid. The Mal seems to take so long to get to warp which necessitates earlier bugout if things get bad. Have tried overdrive which is no help and two NanoFiber lo slots only knocks a couple seconds off and clobbers my Heat sinks/BC's. I sure wish they would enable MWDs in DeadSpace.

Alt Tabbed
Posted - 2009.06.21 12:40:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Aus Dog
I sure wish they would enable MWDs in DeadSpace.


Unless your fighting aligned at all times.....

That would actually reduce your time to warp even further.

Just an FYI.

Tao Hmong
Posted - 2009.06.21 14:45:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Petyr Baelich

OP is a troll. He has medium pulse lasers fitted to that raven if you believe his posts in S&M.



Player has got to be a troll or a serious isk buyer....

Owns a drake, and is taking a BS into level three's??? Really??? Has that BS fitted with Med Pulse AND Cruise Missles... In a level 3????????

Seriously man, go find another MMO to play


 

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