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iXetus
e-PWN
Posted - 2009.05.31 16:45:00 - [1]
 

what topic says, also with fittings pls.

Zak'eni
Revolutionary Socialialist Party of Amarr
Posted - 2009.05.31 16:46:00 - [2]
 

Punisher. Add some lasers and a plate.

iXetus
e-PWN
Posted - 2009.05.31 17:01:00 - [3]
 

Well, i was thinking something able to kill even maradeurs and faction bs's tbh. Although punisher is a mighty little frig, it won't get the job done fast.

Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.05.31 17:02:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: iXetus
what topic says, also with fittings pls.


Too lazy to do EFT warrioring, but either a curse (better against turret ships obviously, but will work vs any), or an apoc (try to fit a couple heavy neuts and stagger them)

Lance Fighter
Amarr
Posted - 2009.05.31 18:17:00 - [5]
 

paladin:
guns
neuts
salvager/probes

cap booster
warp disruptor
stuff

lar
some resists
heatsinks

some rigs

some neut drones (trust me, they are worth it)
some combat drones

iXetus
e-PWN
Posted - 2009.05.31 18:29:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Lance Fighter
paladin:
guns
neuts
salvager/probes

cap booster
warp disruptor
stuff

lar
some resists
heatsinks

some rigs

some neut drones (trust me, they are worth it)
some combat drones


Unfortunatelly i don't have the isk and skills to use that :(. Also, while we're at it, how important is the tank for that? ALso why apoc is better than other bs for killing missionrunners?

Beverly Sparks
Posted - 2009.05.31 18:50:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Beverly Sparks on 31/05/2009 19:13:13
Sacrilege or Curse would probably have the easiest time tackling and killing solo BS's that are PvE fit.

To bad you can't fly an Ishtar.

Something like this for the sacrilege. And then just hope he is not in mission that has mixed damage type NPC's, since if you are unable to hit a resistance hole it may take a long time to get through his tank, if at all.

A threw the smart bomb in there so that you can clear his drones, and then get on with the killing, since they are probably going to be the biggest threat to you in most situations.

[Sacrilege, New Setup 1]
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
Medium Rudimentary Concussion Bomb I

Ancillary Current Router I
Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I


Hammerhead II x1
Hobgoblin II x1





iXetus
e-PWN
Posted - 2009.05.31 18:56:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Beverly Sparks
Sacrilege or Curse would probably have the easiest time tackling and killing solo BS's that are PvE fit.


I thought about it too, but i can't fly t2 ships yet :(, and i have 0 sp in missile launcher operation.

Now i have done some eft warrioring and it looks like abaddon outperforms the apoc in everything, from gank to tank. And it's also a lot easier to fit.

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2009.05.31 19:25:00 - [9]
 

Pilgrim imo. Do the fit yourself lazypants, and remember the probe launcher.

Audri Fisher
Caldari
Burning Bush Enterprises
Posted - 2009.05.31 22:13:00 - [10]
 

Gedon, with pulses.

Hotice
Posted - 2009.05.31 22:21:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Hotice on 31/05/2009 22:24:15
With low skills, you will have no way to deal with properly fitted marauders and faction ships solo. I personally fly all 4 maraduders and also all the faction ships. Anyone of those ships can with stand full aggro in level 4 missions without breaking more than half of the cap.

The best you could do is to use a Domi with drones. There is no way you could use none t2 amarr ships to deal with marauders and factions ships. Remember, the people who can fly those are pretty much maxed in both fitting and combat skills. Often than not they have nosf fitted along with drones. You will be lucky to not die from such encounter much less kill them alone.

So, train up drone skills and pick up domi is your best bet.

Another Whine
Caldari
Minions of Hasselhoff
Posted - 2009.05.31 22:44:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Another Whine on 31/05/2009 22:44:53
If you dont wanna bother with baiting them or what ever, then forget about amarr

6-8 ravens depending on tank

6 arba siege
1 point 1 web 1 ab 2 tps 1 sb
5 bc's

go find a target land on him fire easy peasy

RuleoftheBone
Minmatar
Black Viper Nomads
Posted - 2009.05.31 23:28:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Omara Otawan
Pilgrim imo. Do the fit yourself lazypants, and remember the probe launcher.


Word Laughing.

In less mean fashion though:

Neut-neut-cloak-combat probe launcher
AB-scram-web-td-cap injector
plate-rep-armor hard-armor hard-dc

rigs to suit (port egress/repair/armor buff...your choice)

If you don't have Recon V/good skills forget the above and try something else because it won't fit (Pilgrim is VERY CPU tight). Also...avoid passive tanks and Drakes for the most part. Requires patience to fly.

MidnightMartyr
Gallente
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2009.06.01 04:48:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Audri Fisher
Gedon, with pulses.


This, however drop one pulse and add a neut. You lose some DPS, but you kill their tank, which lets you kill them faster.

galdinni
Gallente
Black Serpent Technologies
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2009.06.01 05:52:00 - [15]
 

now i know who to look for when i go missioning. thank you, and DIAF.

Lexa Hellfury
Immortal.
Posted - 2009.06.01 06:47:00 - [16]
 

Nothing more hilarious than a 'PvPer' who can't figure out how to kill mission runners Wink

iXetus
e-PWN
Posted - 2009.06.01 08:40:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Nothing more hilarious than a 'PvPer' who can't figure out how to kill mission runners Wink


Meh, not getting trolled by you, sorry, try some1 else ;)

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.06.01 09:18:00 - [18]
 

Use the carebears own mission running flagship against them. ugh

[Nightmare, Backstabber]
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Tracking Enhancer II

Domination 100MN Afterburner
Domination Warp Disruptor
Gallente Navy Stasis Webifier
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster

Mega Pulse Laser II, Dark Blood Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Dark Blood Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Dark Blood Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Dark Blood Multifrequency L
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II

Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Berserker II x2
Valkyrie II x2
Warrior II x1

Draco Dux
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.06.01 09:24:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Draco Dux on 01/06/2009 09:25:07
Originally by: Zeba
Use the carebears own mission running flagship against them.


Very HappyBut the real carebears will not fly missions in low sec/0.0.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.06.01 09:39:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Draco Dux
Originally by: Zeba
Use the carebears own mission running flagship against them.


Very HappyBut the real carebears will not fly missions in low sec/0.0.
I think you might be pleasantly suprised about that though they tend to be in the exploration sites instead of a regular mission. Thats all good as a decent portion of exploration sites don't have gates and makes it easy for your scout to give you a 0km warp in. However dragging a nightmare about would probably attract moar attention than would be comfortable in a few places I would imagine. Though I have heard that a t2 cloak in one of the highs is a pretty neat trick if you have a trusted tackler to get you in range. By the time you get to the target from the safespot the delay will have run out and the piddly extra few seconds to lock up the victim due to the cloak penalty will not be a hinderance to it quickly popping after the lock. Wink

Gin G
The Helghast Corporation
Posted - 2009.06.01 10:08:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Gin G on 01/06/2009 10:10:10
sac for the normal caldari raven

4 HAM t2
1 MED nute
1 expanded launcher

1 10nm AB
2 cap rechargers
1 point

2 MAR T2
1 thermal hard
1 CN BCS
1 DG CO PROC

2 AUX nano pumps

also needs a 5% cpu implant

its a strange fit but try it before you start whining it can hold out any normal raven/CNR destabalise there cap and kill them without much effort

just load EM missiles for guristas missions and Kinetic for amarr ones

PS. if you replace the BCS with a cap power relay yeah yeah dps goes down a bit big deal itull take a bit longer to kill them and add a cap power relay you can perma both reppers the nute and AB

Draco Dux
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.06.01 10:23:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Draco Dux
Originally by: Zeba
Use the carebears own mission running flagship against them.


Very HappyBut the real carebears will not fly missions in low sec/0.0.
I think you might be pleasantly suprised about that though they tend to be in the exploration sites instead of a regular mission. Thats all good as a decent portion of exploration sites don't have gates and makes it easy for your scout to give you a 0km warp in. However dragging a nightmare about would probably attract moar attention than would be comfortable in a few places I would imagine. Though I have heard that a t2 cloak in one of the highs is a pretty neat trick if you have a trusted tackler to get you in range. By the time you get to the target from the safespot the delay will have run out and the piddly extra few seconds to lock up the victim due to the cloak penalty will not be a hinderance to it quickly popping after the lock. Wink

No, i'm not surprised. Think you wrongly understood me, it was only a "carebear"-joke.

Lexa Hellfury
Immortal.
Posted - 2009.06.01 10:26:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: iXetus
Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Nothing more hilarious than a 'PvPer' who can't figure out how to kill mission runners Wink


Meh, not getting trolled by you, sorry, try some1 else ;)


No really. How hard is it? Passive Drakes aside, PvE ships are pretty much all vulnerable to one thing: Cap warfare. Other than that, you need to apply DPS. I fail to see how hard it is to figure out which ships and setups fulfill those roles.


Trind2222
Amarr
The Red Ring
Posted - 2009.06.01 10:45:00 - [24]
 

Harbringer

7x mp

ab web scramb smal cap boster

m rep plate 2x hadners 2x hc

Azuse
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2009.06.01 10:49:00 - [25]
 

Pilgrim, reqiring some faction to fit but doable if you have the skills and piloting ability, just remember marauders webs = death.

If you have the isk over skills Bhaalgorn, Nothing kills marauders quicker, with more style or pwned factor. May require minor pimping.

Lego Maniac
Posted - 2009.06.01 11:07:00 - [26]
 

arbl or harbl

strokin' mah arbl:
fly against turret ships only, burn an orbit and apply TDs, let NPC dps assist your drones in dps while you neut

strokin' mah harbl:
active tank it, burn in and orbit, nos and repair yourself while liberally handing over some scorch loev

Psiri
Posted - 2009.06.01 11:09:00 - [27]
 

Curse, neuts is all you need and with an afterburner they shouldn't be able to track you. Just make sure that you deal with the drones and your target will be dead in the water.

King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
Posted - 2009.06.01 11:38:00 - [28]
 

The curse and pilgrim work well. I recommend a nano curse (shield buffer) or repped pilgrim. You won't have much dps, but mission dps is brutal once their active hardeners turn off from lack of cap.YARRRR!!

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2009.06.01 12:31:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Originally by: iXetus
Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Nothing more hilarious than a 'PvPer' who can't figure out how to kill mission runners Wink


Meh, not getting trolled by you, sorry, try some1 else ;)


No really. How hard is it? Passive Drakes aside, PvE ships are pretty much all vulnerable to one thing: Cap warfare. Other than that, you need to apply DPS. I fail to see how hard it is to figure out which ships and setups fulfill those roles.


This. That being said, looking at cap warfare, the best bet would either be the Arbi/Curse/Pilgrim (I recommend the first tbh, you do this for profit right? and the Arbi gets the work done), "alot of gallente ships", or a battleship of choice.

Lexa Hellfury
Immortal.
Posted - 2009.06.01 12:36:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Misanth
Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Originally by: iXetus
Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Nothing more hilarious than a 'PvPer' who can't figure out how to kill mission runners Wink


Meh, not getting trolled by you, sorry, try some1 else ;)


No really. How hard is it? Passive Drakes aside, PvE ships are pretty much all vulnerable to one thing: Cap warfare. Other than that, you need to apply DPS. I fail to see how hard it is to figure out which ships and setups fulfill those roles.


This. That being said, looking at cap warfare, the best bet would either be the Arbi/Curse/Pilgrim (I recommend the first tbh, you do this for profit right? and the Arbi gets the work done), "alot of gallente ships", or a battleship of choice.


Bhaalgorn.


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