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Al'kanree
Posted - 2009.05.19 12:14:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Al''kanree on 19/05/2009 12:27:04
Small modification in this barge.

Now it's something difficult to tank the rats in 0.5 with this ship. This ship cost about 20 m Isk.

One way, It's to had one middle slot and increase a little the cpu and powergrid.

cpu 200 --> 220
powergrid 35 --> 50

or

increase the shield

Shield capacity 785 -> 1200











Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Shadow Confederation
Posted - 2009.05.19 15:09:00 - [2]
 

There's this really need ship... its called a Hulk.

Al'kanree
Posted - 2009.05.19 16:07:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Al''kanree on 19/05/2009 16:18:08
Edited by: Al''kanree on 19/05/2009 16:17:14
The difference between the Hulk and covetor it's about 4 days ( skill days).

With a fregate you can tank the rats in 0.5 ( the fregate cost between 50k to 350 k).

Merlin cpu 175 powergrid 35 shield 460 about 350k (skill time 1 day)
retriever cpu 125 powergrid 35 shield 391 about 5 m (skill time 3 week)
covetor cpu 200 powergrid 35 shield 781 about 20 m (skill time 7 week)
hulk cpu 300 powergrid 35 shield 1519 about 80 m (skill time 7 week + 4 days)


You need about 2 month to use the covetor the price is about 20 m and it's difficult to tank some rats.

I don't ask to make the second hulk. I just ask to balance a little the covetor versus Hulk or retriever.



Isaac Starstriker
Amarr
Frontier Venture
Posted - 2009.05.19 16:44:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Isaac Starstriker on 19/05/2009 16:45:11
Quit soloing? Get better shield skills? (Yes, there are skills that help) Get a hulk? Use combat drones?

No need to change.

--Isaac

Al'kanree
Posted - 2009.05.19 16:50:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Isaac Starstriker
Edited by: Isaac Starstriker on 19/05/2009 16:45:11
Quit soloing? Get better shield skills? (Yes, there are skills that help) Get a hulk? Use combat drones?

No need to change.

--Isaac


Nice Isaac. Your are Mister "No"

If you have some argument that will be better

Grann Thefauto
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.05.19 17:22:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Grann Thefauto on 19/05/2009 17:25:28
Your refusal to fit for the environment is not a good reason to change a ship. Use combat drones if you really have problems. Here's fit that is cap stable at 49% and will tank as well as any combat frigate and is t1 to boot:

[Covetor, Tank]
Mark I Generator Refitting: Capacitor Power Relay
Mark I Generator Refitting: Capacitor Power Relay

Small C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I

Ice Harvester I
Ice Harvester I
Ice Harvester I

[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]

Edit: if you're not going for ice it fits just as well with strip miners.

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2009.05.19 17:25:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Al'kanree
Edited by: Al''kanree on 19/05/2009 16:18:08
Edited by: Al''kanree on 19/05/2009 16:17:14
The difference between the Hulk and covetor it's about 4 days ( skill days).



The difference for me between a Covetor and a Hulk was roughly 23 hours. Where do you get this 4 days crap from?

The difference was so short, I didn't even bother with the covetor at all, and went from a Retreiver directly to a Hulk.

If they want to do anything with the Covetor, they should lower the MB and Astrogeology Skill requirements by one level each.

No Support.

Zedrik Cayne
Gallente
Standards and Practices
Posted - 2009.05.19 18:17:00 - [8]
 

Tanking the (pie)rats in a covetor is easy..

Lows:
400mm reinforced rolled tungsten
Damage Control II

Meds:
Warp Disruptor II

Highs:
Small Energy Neutralizer II

5xHobgoblin II's
1xOgre II

That frigate that flipped your can will never know what hit it. Twisted Evil They are the only rats that you need to worry about really. The Ogre's there for pwning that stupid hauler that comes by. Or, if you are can flipping in a covetor, for pwning that hulk that decided to aggress you :)

Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Shadow Confederation
Posted - 2009.05.19 18:20:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Zedrik Cayne
Tanking the (pie)rats in a covetor is easy..

Lows:
400mm reinforced rolled tungsten
Damage Control II

Meds:
Warp Disruptor II

Highs:
Small Energy Neutralizer II

5xHobgoblin II's
1xOgre II

That frigate that flipped your can will never know what hit it. Twisted Evil They are the only rats that you need to worry about really. The Ogre's there for pwning that stupid hauler that comes by. Or, if you are can flipping in a covetor, for pwning that hulk that decided to aggress you :)


THATS HILARIOUS!

That would be so fun to try! HAHA!

Tesseract d'Urberville
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
Posted - 2009.05.19 18:31:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Al'kanree
The difference between the Hulk and covetor it's about 4 days ( skill days).
The difference for me between a Covetor and a Hulk was roughly 23 hours. Where do you get this 4 days crap from?

The difference was so short, I didn't even bother with the covetor at all, and went from a Retreiver directly to a Hulk.

If they want to do anything with the Covetor, they should lower the MB and Astrogeology Skill requirements by one level each.

No Support.

This.
No Support. Covetor works as is, although reducing its skill requirements a hair wouldn't be a bad thing.

Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Shadow Confederation
Posted - 2009.05.19 18:39:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Al'kanree
Originally by: Isaac Starstriker
Edited by: Isaac Starstriker on 19/05/2009 16:45:11
Quit soloing? Get better shield skills? (Yes, there are skills that help) Get a hulk? Use combat drones?

No need to change.

--Isaac


Nice Isaac. Your are Mister "No"

If you have some argument that will be better

I have some argument that you don't read.

You get exhumer book skill and train 23 hours... then you shield be strong.

Yes?

Al'kanree
Posted - 2009.05.20 09:30:00 - [12]
 

the problem is not to have or not the hulk. ( I use the hulk already).

The covetor hasn't a good balance.

Skill time about the same than the hulk.
Tanking about the same than the retriever.

For me this ship is completly unbalanced.

Two possibility :

Reduce the skill to use them (ex. Astrogeology IV or Mining barge IV) but not the both a V

Increase a little the tanking.


steave435
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.05.20 09:37:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Al'kanree
Skill time about the same than the hulk.
Tanking about the same than the retriever.

But much lower price and insurable.

Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Shadow Confederation
Posted - 2009.05.20 14:25:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Al'kanree
the problem is not to have or not the hulk. ( I use the hulk already).

The covetor hasn't a good balance.

Skill time about the same than the hulk.
Tanking about the same than the retriever.

For me this ship is completly unbalanced.

Two possibility :

Reduce the skill to use them (ex. Astrogeology IV or Mining barge IV) but not the both a V

Increase a little the tanking.




Unbalanced covetor not is....
cheap supposed to be....

Fix not it need.

Hulk you buy.


 

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